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Jay White is an exceptional talent in all facets - in ring, mic, charisma, character etc.

I think Impact get a lot of things right but I can’t believe just how much they botched White’s sojourn there. He was treated like a nobody. Yes, to American audiences he’s not a huge draw but perception often makes reality.

I hope AEW make a better fist of it. Debuting in a backstage brawl isn’t exactly a rip roaring start. The whole Forbidden Door has been a giant let down.

Conversely, they did a great job of presenting Keith Lee as an entertaining hoss. Past his best or not, this is where JR shines. He’s still superb at selling the athletic freak guys and it’s obvious he’s a huge fan of Keith Lee. Lee’s an amazing addition and fills a gap in their roster in the way a Gargano or many of the others rumoured do not.

Overall Dynamite was pretty good I felt. MJF is always fun. Good to see Punk and Moxley team up. The main event was ok. Serena Deeb is so sharp these days. Cargill’s improving rapidly but I think she would actually be better as a face.

I dislike the Guevara cue card thing; it’s different, yep, but takes ages to watch and is dull and silly. The Inner Circle segment went too long but I hope Santana and Ortiz truly get a push now. I find the Young Bucks so naff character wise. Adam Cole just doesn’t feel as interesting as he could do yet; I don’t know why.

The bloated roster is really becoming a huge issue now IMHO, although it seems Rampage is basically featuring the angles not progressed on Dynamite.

I still don’t love AEW and feel they play far too much to the hardcore fans but it’s still so much more interesting than WWE.
 
So the hype was about a wrestler who has been nowhere for the last 18 months and has had his health so badly impacted by covid that he gasses 5 minutes into matches?
Khan needs to start laying off the Coke. He tweeted himself into a corner over this
 
choccy77 said:
Yeah, Keith Lee leaked about 2 hours before the show and then the JW was a surprise, but this whole forbidden door stuff is just stupid.

Makes no sense and it was stolen from someone who used that to describe a big Royal Rumble surprise that never happened either.

At this point, there are literally no big surprises that can be had.

Wrestlers are under contract today unlike in the early days of the attitude era where wrestlers could switch overnight at free will.
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Tanahashi used the term in 2019 and Khan before that

 
Tbh between jay white and Lee that's perfectly fine for me I'm excited enough.

What's annoying is making it out khan is actually announcing something, doing a segment when he's not, so youre watching the rest of the episode thinking is there a third? Whens khan doing his bit?
 
For anyone disappointed, there’ll be another major announcement coming soon. Jeff’s got to join sooner or later.
 
Really good Dynamite.

Keith Lee was made to look like an absolute monster. Don't think I've ever seen someone hover in the air for so long. :lol:

Jay White was a decent surprise and got a great pop.

Last match was pretty brutal. That blackout on the ring steps looked especially horrible.

Ekeke said:
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Tanahashi used the term in 2019 and Khan before that

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Exactly. Utter nonsense post.
 
Ekeke said:
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Tanahashi used the term in 2019 and Khan before that

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What I meant was, this term was being used for weeks building up to Royal Rumble and nothing happened.

Then the week after, Tony Khan was using it and for zero reasons.

Then as he has said, he panicked and went and signed Jay 3 says before Dynamite so he didn't look like a clown for using that term.

The term, is just stupid in 2022 given that 90% of the main guys are under contract etc.
 
Crazy Dynamite. The MJF opening with the rest of the The Pinnacle was superb. The guy is now becoming a bonafide top tier act. Cannot wait to see where the Punk/Wardlow/MJF feud goes. Suspect MJF will get himself another title match before the end of the year. It seems like beating CM Punk in Chicago twice will be his version of Chris Jericho beating the Rock and SCSA in the same night.

One possible complaint: didn't they botch the gimmick of the main event? I thought in a Texas Deathmatch you needed to get a 3-count pinfall and then the 10-count would begin? Otherwise it is just a Last Man Standing match.
 
I don't really follow the hype or anything outside of the actual shows (Dynamite & Rampage), so I don't really know what Khan said about anything, but I thought Keith Lee's debut was really good, made to look like an absolute monster. He's a freak athlete for sure. I assume Tony Schiavone hasn't seen much of him, as he was having the best time on commentary watching him throw Cassidy around like a rag doll. Plus his music was great too.

I don't know who Jay White is, although I assume he's a big deal?

As usual, I really enjoyed Dynamite. The Punk/MJF storyline is getting tasty, and the main event was a fun bloodbath.
 
The Hilton said:
I don't really follow the hype or anything outside of the actual shows (Dynamite & Rampage), so I don't really know what Khan said about anything, but I thought Keith Lee's debut was really good, made to look like an absolute monster. He's a freak athlete for sure. I assume Tony Schiavone hasn't seen much of him, as he was having the best time on commentary watching him throw Cassidy around like a rag doll. Plus his music was great too.

I don't know who Jay White is, although I assume he's a big deal?

As usual, I really enjoyed Dynamite. The Punk/MJF storyline is getting tasty, and the main event was a fun bloodbath.
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Yeah. Current leader of the Bullet Club (previous leaders were Finn Balor, AJ Styles and Kenny Omega) and one of the top guys in New Japan.
 
Wrestling is generally better when you stay off Twitter, Reddit et al. in the days leading up to shows. People seeming to get into hype spirals and leave themselves disappointed.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Yeah. Current leader of the Bullet Club (previous leaders were Finn Balor, AJ Styles and Kenny Omega) and one of the top guys in New Japan.
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That's quite a list of predecessors! I think the only match in New Japan I've watched was Jericho vs Omega, I just don't have the time to keep up with all the different promotions - it used to be WWE for me but it got too boring and AEW filled the gap nicely.
 
choccy77 said:
What I meant was, this term was being used for weeks building up to Royal Rumble and nothing happened.

Then the week after, Tony Khan was using it and for zero reasons.

Then as he has said, he panicked and went and signed Jay 3 says before Dynamite so he didn't look like a clown for using that term.

The term, is just stupid in 2022 given that 90% of the main guys are under contract etc.
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Thats the entire point. Its the forbidden door because the company they have a contract with isnt working with AEW... Until they are... And then its little by little.

At first NJPW and AEW were mad at each other. Now there is some cross over, but we havent seen the biggest names in NJPW, some of whom have said they'd love to work with AEW, come over and do something with them. Its forbidden
 
Bullet Club is a load of shite, to be honest. A decade old stable with countless members and multiple bastardised versions spanning about a dozen companies.
 
In an alternative timeline, Cole and and Lee are still in WWE and, Cole and is lees manager. Probably just went over Ricochet on main event.
 
choccy77 said:
Smackdown was recorded for next week as the crew are of to Saudi and the title change happened.


Sammy Z won the IC Title
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I know. I clicked the link. But why the feck does the official WWE page feel the need to spoil it? :lol:
 
sewey89 said:
I know. I clicked the link. But why the feck does the official WWE page feel the need to spoil it? :lol:
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Guess trying to hype something that may have low viewing numbers.

Also, WWE have stopped using the Name New Day on TV now.

Seems that there is going to be some kind of change coming up with those 3.
 
Will he won't he?

WWE are desperate to have Steve Austin wrestle Kevin Owens at Mania, however, despite having a ring installed in his home last year, Austin still hasn't made a decision whether to wrestle in his home town or not and say goodbye properly.

WWE have 200,000 tickets to sell and see Austin wrestling as a huge draw for ticket sales.

Austin will still appear regardless if he wrestles or not.
 
choccy77 said:
Will he won't he?

WWE are desperate to have Steve Austin wrestle Kevin Owens at Mania, however, despite having a ring installed in his home last year, Austin still hasn't made a decision whether to wrestle in his home town or not and say goodbye properly.

WWE have 200,000 tickets to sell and see Austin wrestling as a huge draw for ticket sales.

Austin will still appear regardless if he wrestles or not.
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If this is what they need to do to sell 200k tickets they shouldnt have reached and needed to sell 200k tickets.

This nostalgia selling tickets is why the WWE is like it is where none of the top stars can really draw that well because they aren't SCSA or The Rock so instead of trying to create a new SCSA or The Rock they'll wheel them out like they Goldberg or The Undertaker and put the old guys over so the new guys dont stand a chance of ever being a draw.

There are plenty of other arenas they could do a mania that are half the size of The Jerry Dome but they have to be the biggest, best etc etc and then lie to put over the attendance.
 
I love Owens, think he should have had another title run by now. Austin can't can't wrestle, hasn't in years, so it'll be a 2 minute squash.

I'd rather Austin squash someone like ziggler or Miz, they beat him down after the match and Owens makes the save. Pass on the stunner sort of thing.
 
Stevondo8 said:
Stunner vs “stunner” innit.

Not really anyone else that makes any kind of sense to go against that I can think of.
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They couldn't even do a Brock v Austin rematch, because no one would believe that Austin would last 1 minute against him.

With Owens they could probably get 5 to 7 minutes out of it.

Knowing Vince, he will have Austin stun Owens in under 10 Seconds and think Owens will bounce back on Raw.
 
Reckon Owens cuts a promo about Texas and Austin comes out for the beat down, that’s all.
 
Dunno, think Cody leaving AEW to join WWE might just trumpPunk/Danielson joining AEW.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Cody really leaving AEW or is it just a work?
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It feels unprecedented if it is a work, and even the journalists who have good links with AEW are now in on the work or have been blindsided by this.

If he goes back to WWE, I will have zero sympathy when he’s just another guy. Absolutely none. It feels incredible to even believe that that is an option, but we thought that about others in the past and they all generally go back. The guy seems to have a massive ego, so maybe he thinks this time it will be different.

Posted a few times here that I have struggled to get my head around how Cody had been weirdly booked in AEW and how he somewhat threw away being the most over guy in North America to pursue other endeavours. I put some of that down to the pandemic and Cody’s matches and programmes being less suited to not having a hot live audience.

Maybe I am being worked, maybe Cody sees his live elsewhere and best of luck to him, but if goes back to WWE he is asking for disappointment.

It’s somewhat of a testament to how AEW has done though, that whilst it might be embarrassing to see him return to WWE, they won’t miss him in front of the camera that much as he had already been doing other things for much of the last two years.
 
SalfordRed18 said:
Dunno, think Cody leaving AEW to join WWE might just trumpPunk/Danielson joining AEW.
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I think it would be more surprising yeah considering his history there.

I never really had a problem with him that some did. He's not my favourite wrestler by any means but his matches have been some of the more memorable ones in AEW since it began and I think the booing got a little bit silly towards the end (that belt being thrown back in was so disrespectful).

Also if he was genuinely going why have they been pushing him and Brandi again on tv recently (unless it was totally out of the blue). I still don't know whether it's an angle or not. If it is, it will probably have something to do with him getting that world title shot that he said he'd never have after losing to Jericho.
 
Gonna be a lot of people made to look very stupid if this ends up being a work:


 
SalfordRed18 said:
Dunno, think Cody leaving AEW to join WWE might just trumpPunk/Danielson joining AEW.
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:lol: What?

As for whether its actually happening I'd be very surprised. I cannot see Cody maintaining a presence in the main event and 2nd belt in WWE so it would obviously be a step down into the shuffle. Then theres history which is overwhelmingly positive for him in AEW and negative for his family in WWE.

I don't think AEW needs him but neither does WWE
 
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