He is the truth
Thiago Motta | Sacked
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I am not sure but I did read at a couple of places that INEOS admired him.
Sacked.
To be replaced by igor tudor.
To be replaced by igor tudor.
Maybe the power diffrential is simply too high in German and Spanish leagues between Bayern, Madrid and Barca and their competitors but peculiar how they haven't really hit post triumph hangover the way other teams do going by recent history.
Juventus seem poised to be on their united arc, inter had similar rough downward spiral after their dominance, same with Liverpool in the 90s.
Obviously a lot more goes into it but there's an inkling of a pattern there.
Juventus seem poised to be on their united arc, inter had similar rough downward spiral after their dominance, same with Liverpool in the 90s.
Obviously a lot more goes into it but there's an inkling of a pattern there.
They do have a very young squad. Inconsistensy was bound to happen but the amount of draws they got under him was ridiculous. Their first league loss was only about 2 months ago against Napoli.
It'll happen to all of them given enough time. Can see it happening to Barca sooner than the others with the way they've run their finances in recent times.
This is the least surprising Juventus type shit move ever.
The Tsar of Lancaster hath risen!
Wait, wasn’t he the hottest shit since sliced baloney?
He was “the truth”.
That explains it.
Ruthless. One point off 4th and CL spot, level with Inter for least amount of losses (3), but 13 draws so far.
He’s certainly the truth alongside Moyesy that a top job and an Everton-esque job are miles apart.
Seems an odd “sacking” (a bit soon?), but again, I don’t watch Serie A so maybe they’ve been playing like turd? I don’t know what they’ve spent since he took charge or how good their squad is compared to say, inter and Napoli etc.
They were par for the course on last year - think they finished 3rd, ultimately 23 points behind league winners Inter. Currently they’re 12 points off Inter at the top, and 1 point off 4th and 5 points off 3rd. Doesn’t seem a regression, but not an improvement either.
They should’ve appointed Conte if they wanted an immediate push for the title. I guess some would call that setting high standards? Oh well, he was the truth! On to the next lie detector test!
They were par for the course on last year - think they finished 3rd, ultimately 23 points behind league winners Inter. Currently they’re 12 points off Inter at the top, and 1 point off 4th and 5 points off 3rd. Doesn’t seem a regression, but not an improvement either.
They should’ve appointed Conte if they wanted an immediate push for the title. I guess some would call that setting high standards? Oh well, he was the truth! On to the next lie detector test!
At this point we've seen so many managerial prodigies 'underperform' at top clubs that it really drills in that the step up to managing a top club is probably even more difficult than we all think it is.
My point really is less about the underperforming guys and more that it makes me appreciate the people who are unprecedented successes at the top level even more, like SAF, Wenger, Mourinho, Pep, Ancelotti, Zidane etc.
Like just how fecking good these guys must really have been to have made the step up and made a success of it
My point really is less about the underperforming guys and more that it makes me appreciate the people who are unprecedented successes at the top level even more, like SAF, Wenger, Mourinho, Pep, Ancelotti, Zidane etc.
Like just how fecking good these guys must really have been to have made the step up and made a success of it
The pattern is money - and the arseholes went out in the CL group stage twice in a row and have been selling the club piece by piece down the river. Memphis Depay was supposed to be their star at one point. They did have a "hangover"
Always thought he would of been a better fit for a Fiorentina or even Napoli than Juventus. To go into a team built by Allegri and completely change the style of play is a tall order. He has made some strange signings. But there is no time in football now. If Juventus sack him , I think he can work his way up. His Bologna season before played some good football.
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Memphis Depay? At Juve?
Barcelona
Listening to Italian journos the last few weeks can’t say I’m surprised he’s been sacked as there has been terrible results but it did seem that selecting him as coach with the players they had in the team was strange, as they didn’t have the attributes needed for his style of play. Hence a lot of draws this season. Many parallels with United and Amorim in what I’ve said there too.
See if he can rebuild at another Italian club like he did at Bologna. But Juve are such a weird club.
See if he can rebuild at another Italian club like he did at Bologna. But Juve are such a weird club.
Haven’t they drawn basically all their games? Still, I’m surprised he’s been sacked. Juve have been bad for a while, you can’t expect someone to turn that around instantly. Inter are one of the best teams in Europe as well.
We're told the opposite on here at times.
They lost the last 2 games 0-4 and 3-0 against teams competing for European spots.
By people with no patience. It’s like they expect miracles.
Aargh, thanks Iker. Yeah, still seems “quick” but alas, I don’t know the intricacies.
He is a convoluted n00b, we would be 15th in the PL as well. Next in line for the sack must be Giuntoli, though.
From what I understand there's been some internal drama so it's not just sporting outcomes. But the two games are seen as 'losing the dressing room.'
The intricacies are not so obscure though: missing the CL spot would be a disaster, another one. Ok not competing for titles for a while, yet finishing below 4th in a very poor league after having spent a fair chunk of monies is still unacceptable, even for a very distant and uninterested owner like Elkann (and only because he will need to tap his broken, noisy toy again).
No surprise there. They spent 200 million Euros last summer, and they haven't moved an inch forward. In half of their league games, they've either failed to score or scored just once. In the last couple of games, they looked completely broken.
Their squad is pretty shit, unbalanced and not much up top. Yet, they are somehow paying up on 20m for Lewis Kelly from Newcastle in the summer.
Yeah, figured one or two other things happening as well.
Thanks Bepi. Yeah, thanks for the context. I wasn’t even sure how much money he spent - I don’t follow Serie a or any other team closely.
Shame about Motta but guess going to a club like Bologna again would be the best move for him next.
Will Tudor sign with Juve until the end of this season or longer? His CV doesn't look inspiring.
Will Tudor sign with Juve until the end of this season or longer? His CV doesn't look inspiring.
Taking Giuntoli from Napoli was meant to be a bit of a coup I thought
Apparently it'll be a contract till the end of the season with the option to extend by Juve.
I've read they wanted to go for mancini but he demanded an automatic extention were they to secure an ucl spot, and juve didn't want to tie down their future so they moved on.
We are told plenty of things on here about club trajectories. Often very wrong.
Arseholes
Nah. Motta's failure hasn't been an actual coaching issue like fot Moyes. It has been man management. Which ultimately has lost him the dressing room. He will learn from the experience. He got embrolied in butting heads about too much with key players that he found there.
They felt he'd lost the squad and would end up missing out on top 4 as a result. Juventus absolutely need to get back into CL