Deserves a thread of it's own. This guy is doing such a superb job. Has Bologna up to 5th.
Bound to be a talking point for bigger jobs soon
Bound to be a talking point for bigger jobs soon
Thiago Motta | Juventus Manager
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Old one but interesting
I'm sure I've heard on a couple of podcasts that he's on the radar for the Barcelona job come the end of the season when Xavi leaves
Been ruled out I think. Between De Zerbi and Hansi Flick I think.
Was he ruled out? Last I heard of it, Deco (who Barca aren't very happy with right now btw) just said there hadn't been any contact yet.
We really should be considering this guy if we decide to go in a different direction to ETH. What he's doing with Bologna is fantastic. Just come from behind to win in Atalanta 2-1
There's some very good options about, though many are also punts like ETH. But if we're being honest, the guy sitting at the top of Serie A is the one we should be looking at.
I would love to see a really ambitious appointment like this, of a bright young manager with his career ahead of him.
You can see he has a real vision for how the game should be played and some unique ideas. It would be exciting and he would bring energy.
You can see he has a real vision for how the game should be played and some unique ideas. It would be exciting and he would bring energy.
Why is that then?
He had them in a CL final last year and is on pace to break records this year? After doing exceptional work at Lazio? The one big blemish is the title they literally threw away in his first season, and his game management - especially substitutions - can still drive a sane man up a wall[and it cost them the derby which was the turning point in the title race two years ago]
But yeah. I mean, right now there's very few managers out there who could match Inzaghi's recent record come the end of the season
I rate what Motta is doing more than Inzaghi’s Inter.
I think the jobs they're doing are pretty equally impressive in different ways.
I'd suspect Motta might have the edge in communicating his ideas, though. Being from South America, having lived all over Europe and speaking four languages, I'd fancy him to pick up English (if he doesn't already speak it) and adapt to the league quicker than Inzaghi who has only played or managed in Italy.
I don't care if it's good or bad (and I'll retract that if it gets as boring) but I want an LVG style coach that will religiously stick to a plan and it actually shows in the team rather than our chaos ball half arsed attempts at everything. Motta could be that guy.
Yes please.
He is the one. A clear philosophy, young, ambitious and extremely promising. He has the potential to be world class and his entire career in front of him. He also lived with and played with modern footballers and understands what is needed to keep them happy and motivated.
Let’s take a chance on a young manager with his career ahead of him for a change. It would be such an exciting summer and feel like a proper project.
A fresh start with a young visionary and the backing of best in class executives.
Let’s take a chance on a young manager with his career ahead of him for a change. It would be such an exciting summer and feel like a proper project.
A fresh start with a young visionary and the backing of best in class executives.
Van Gaal had an initial plan that he didn't stick with. After losing 5-3 to Leicester, he decided to stop playing attacking football and instead implement a safer and more boring possession based style.
Can't see him coming here, unfortunately.
Ten Hag was all of those things. Sure, 10 years older, but far more proven and experienced.
This squad should be purged and before that happens, I doubt Fergie himself can fix this. If we intend to do that, then sure, bring in a new manager and get a fresh start.
Why not? With the footballing structure being put into place by INEOS, we would be an attractive destination for any manager with ambition.
The squad needs purged but Ten Hag wasn’t a young and upcoming manager, he was 50+ and had never managed in a top league. Motta has played with some of the biggest players of the last 30 years. He is much younger and his philosophy is already a lot clearer.
The squad absolutely needs a purge but it should be done under a manager who knows what he wants and has the hunger, ambition and understanding of the modern player to work with the new executives.
He's very interesting. I think a lot of the other candidates play 3 at the back and maybe that's not quite United. Motta is tactically sophisticated, has big room for growth and has presence. I'm aware he speaks several languages but is English one of them? It isn't totally a deal breaker if not but it'd be good to know. He has made a lot of players better and Zirkzee and even the young Italian centre back (Calafiori is it?) could be possible targets for us.
That PSG team under Blanc with Motta in midfield was really good and somewhat underrated I think.
He has an interesting profile but I'm tired of this robbie. Another foreign coach? They took our jobs. Dey tuk eur jewbss.
He has an interesting profile but I'm tired of this robbie. Another foreign coach? They took our jobs. Dey tuk eur jewbss.
The uproar when some dirty foreigner gets the United job over Sir Gareth will be something
Now this is very interesting.
We should definitely get him. We can even use the same "what has he won?" complaint when he inevitably fails just like Ten Hag has. Hi
There is no inevitability about it.
The count so far is David Moyes, two managers 10+ years past their peak, an ex-player and a 50+ year old Dutchman with no experience in a top league. All poor appointments under terrible leadership
There is no reason to believe that Motta and a capable board couldn’t achieve what Arsenal have with Arteta.
We need youth and potential and modernity and Motta is one of the very best candidates for that.
Motta has the experience of the very top level (as a player)… Definitely one of the good candidates out there.
Does he shout at lazy players and/or players who don’t listen to basic instructions?
If yes, I’m all in.
If yes, I’m all in.
Definitely a manager worth taking a punt on IMO. Nagelsmann should be first choice, but I would take this guy over some of the other names being mentioned.
He's a manager with less than a 40% win record. This season we've seen Roma, Napoli and Atalanta collectively shit the bed. Forgive me if I don't jump on this particular bandwagon.
Maybe we should go for Potter? I've heard from this forum that he is world class.
Does he know how to speak English?
Plus, like Xabi Alonso, he is his own man but has played under lots of different types of coaches (van Gaal, Rijkaard, Gasperini, Mourinho, Prandelli, Ranieri, Ancelotti, Conte, Blanc) and takes inspiration from lots of different tacticians (Guardiola, Bielsa, Löw). That breadth of experience and theoretical knowledge should hold him in good stead as he puts his own twist on things — a few of them were great defensive strategists, some adhered to positional football regiments, others encouraged a bit of relationism, there was considerable variance wrt. in-possession and out-of-possession approaches (as well as a sense of reactiveness and proactiveness), a couple were masters of man-management, and so forth. For example, he recently seems to be doing what Guardiola (and Arteta with White and Kiwior) does in terms of playing multifunctional defenders at the fullback position, that can't be entirely coincidental.
Over the last decade, teams have finished in the Serie A Top 4 with 65, 64, 67, 72, 72, 69, 78, 78, 70 and 70 points. Right now Bologna sit on 57 points, with 8 matches to play. A total of 70+ points doesn't seem unrealistic, and is at least on par with historical norms. Dunno if this is an opportune moment for him to move, though. In an ideal world he would continue at Bologna for a while, further develop the project and at least go through the rigors of playing continental football. Then again, there are no universal rules for success. Someone like Marcello Lippi had zero trophies to his name and had qualified for European competitions for the first time at Napoli when he was offered the Juventus job (traditionally the most prestigious in Italian football). Antonio Conte's résumé was also not the most comprehensive, yet, like Lippi in the 1990s, he managed to define an era with Juventus. Sometimes you need to trust your own abilities and take a leap of faith.
Regarding the Manchester United job, it's fraught with peril. The Premier League has been the most competitive league in club football for a few years. Manchester City and Arsenal are well run from an organizational standpoint and will continue to dominate the top end, in all likelihood. There's no assurance that United's structure will be sound and resilient enough to adequately support a fledgeling coach. Never say never, but it might be too much too soon for Motta.
I really don't understand why anyone would want Nagelsmann.