Hammondo
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I was talking about vs CP.2.5 years 600M and dont have a good enough team to beat Twente at home..
I was talking about vs CP.2.5 years 600M and dont have a good enough team to beat Twente at home..
We started struggling against CP after the subs, where we simply didn't have the players to work the ball, that is how it is. We might have a pretty good first 11, but after a few certain subs we drop significantly.We fell out of the game for nearly the entire second half, definitely felt like we went down a gear from the first half, no urgency and became very sloppy. This part you could perhaps attribute to a lack of quality and/or Palace improving.
However, I was absolutely raging that whilst needing a goal in the last 10 minutes we constantly passed it backwards with players (Martinez the biggest culprit) standing on the ball for what felt like 20 seconds at a time before passing it short or back.
That was absolutely mental to me, I get it if you're drawing 1-1 with Liverpool at Anfield or something, but against teams like Palace we need to be trying to win right up to the last second. Not doing so will cost us the points that are desperately needed to have a chance of playing in the Champions league.
The cowardice shown in some games already this season will see us finish where we did last season or worse.
We have inexperienced or streaky forwards who appear to lack a bit of quality when trying to finish chances, so we need to keep going and trying to create until something goes in. There's no point in just backing off and dropping in energy for large periods of a game, we're going to struggle even more doing that.
If the truth be told the point your making there is a very good one! As for asking ETH that particular question Im guessing you would have to get on the end of a very long que! The sad thing is a couple of years I really belived he was gonna be the guy that was gonna regain our Title on a regular basis & maybe even add another ECL to the 3 that we currently have to our name but sadly these last few weeks it has become almost impossible to defend his team selections or the type of comments he is coming out with in his press confrences.How many more times are we going to have to listen to this bullshit?
This should only be an issue when two opponents are evenly matched and that applies to any sport.
A lesser team or individual will most likely always want the win more but the superior team or individual will win on most occasions for the obvious reasons.
I would love to ask the question "Why are you not trying hard to win" after we draw or even lose to another opponent that get paid a pittance compared to our players.
That's very true!We didn't want it enough in the end against Palace too. Last 10 minutes we looked content on a draw, was infuriating.
For the sake of all sanity's it all needs to start to gel very quickly & also for their sake of their own career's at this club of our's because if a new manager comes-in this side of Christmas, then he may decide to rip the forward line up & bring in his own players.Nothing to do with ‘wanting it more’. We aren’t clinical enough to kill off a game, even when we are dominating. Our team is young, and players are integrating. It will come, given time.
If that was said early on it would go a long way to explaining why our performances fall off a cliff into the second half more often than not.I don’t really believe this. It’s too simplistic.
I see it more as an attitude stemming from the manager. The TNT commentary team overheard EtH telling Garnacho, just before he was subbed on, to ‘defend, defend, defend’. Bear in mind this was just after half time and we were only 1-0 up.
It’s the opposite of SAF’s approach, where we would always outscore the opponents, and the Stretford End would be roaring ‘attack, attack, attack’. That’s what we should have done last night.- really gone after them and looked to score 2 or 3 nil.
EtH is a frightened manager , and the impressive attack force we have assembled is hobbled by his approach.
The players are playing against their natures. We won’t win anything that way.
Agreed.If that was said early on it would go a long way to explaining why our performances fall off a cliff into the second half more often than not.
Would explain the lack of chances being created and urgency to get forward If it's actually by design and instruction. If it's true they need to get this guy to feck ASAP.
Agree on the nuance. I couldn't care less how much they wanted it.How many more times are we going to have to listen to this bullshit?
This should only be an issue when two opponents are evenly matched and that applies to any sport.
A lesser team or individual will most likely always want the win more but the superior team or individual will win on most occasions for the obvious reasons.
I would love to ask the question "Why are you not trying hard to win" after we draw or even lose to another opponent that get paid a pittance compared to our players.
Pretty neat our players have reached the level of "I couldn't really be bothered to give a shit" and that's a perfectly acceptable, normal remark these days.
I think we are set up to avoid defeat rather than go for the win in the final minutes of matches. Got stung late too many times last season. Mind you, that would not be a problem if we actually took our chances in matches and scored more than a goal a game. It’s all intertwined in a shit way.
I hate to draw parallels to real life, but have any of you ever set foot on a pitch and not been hell bend on winning.
Coming second best doesn’t enter my mind. Play better, cheat, wind them up, kick feck out of them……I’m only here to win.
The idea that you lace up your boots limp-wristed, limp your way into the pitch expecting to be beat …….get the feck out of here. Soft cnuts
Twente played a lot of passing round the back because we didn't have the players to realy press them, we had plenty enough possession but lacked tempo and too many static players, our off-the-ball movement is dreadful most of the time and has been for a long timeThis is not actually overly impressive, do t you think? Possession at 60/40 for example.
There are times when it's acceptable, like if it's patently obvious the team has given everything and more but still came up short, like a tight and competitive 4-3 loss.Quite honestly, that is on of the most appalling things for any football player, of any standard of have to admit.
There are times when it's acceptable, like if it's patently obvious the team has given everything and more but still came up short, like a tight and competitive 4-3.
Last night was not one of those times, though. They looked sluggish, uninterested and bereft of ideas.
Quite right.
That is the problem when a manager feels under pressure.
They are scared to take any risks and take an overly conservative approach. But as we all know, with risk comes a reward. But he still seems to have zero confidence in his squad.
You can call me crazy, but true players never ever have that. Even when i played in a low level till the last minute i was busting my ass to get a win. I don’t think you can coach that instinct out of a player.We didn't want it enough in the end against Palace too. Last 10 minutes we looked content on a draw, was infuriating.
Agree. They ought to have their wages docked every time this happens. You are supposed to put in 100% every mtch, so if the other team wanted it more, you aint putting in 100% and should be docked.By making this comment it implies that we still have a group of players with the wrong attitude.
If thats the case then this alone should get him the sack. Defend against the lowest rated team we have to play in the Europa at home, is a sackable offence.If that was said early on it would go a long way to explaining why our performances fall off a cliff into the second half more often than not.
Would explain the lack of chances being created and urgency to get forward If it's actually by design and instruction. If it's true they need to get this guy to feck ASAP.