The UEFA Euro Fantasy Draft

The Stain said:
Sweden. Doesn't everyone know LL?
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Sweden again! Swedes all over, it seems.

Yes, Lucky Luke is well (enough) known, I suppose - but it's a French production, originally, and not really a huge thing in the US or in Britain. So, using him in a metaphorical sense was, to me, an indication of sorts. It's not like using Mickey Mouse, to put it like that.

I know that LL is big in Scandinavia - so it makes sense in your case.
 
The Stain said:
True.. What's the equivalent to a talking horse, as far as AM's goes?
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It's a very smart talking horse, pretty good at chess. Difficult to find an AM as great as Jolly.

Chesterlestreet said:
Sweden again! Swedes all over, it seems.

Yes, Lucky Luke is well (enough) known, I suppose - but it's a French production, originally, and not really a huge thing in the US or in Britain. So, using him in a metaphorical sense was, to me, an indication of sorts. It's not like using Mickey Mouse, to put it like that.

I know that LL is big in Scandinavia - so it makes sense in your case.
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Belgian if I'm not mistaken. Goscinny joined Morris for a while in the 60's or 70's, then it became partly French, but originally it was from Belgium.
 
Balu said:
Belgian if I'm not mistaken. Goscinny joined Morris for a while in the 60's or 70's, then it became partly French, but originally it was from Belgium.
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Damn right - Belgian, originally. Like Tintin.

We have a lot to thank the Belgians for, including tons of players who can't be named in this thread.
 
Balu said:
Spirit of the theme: Don't get too creative when it comes to the players and use them in the roles they played during the Euro tournaments. E.g. Lahm hasn't played in midfield at a Euro like he did at the last World Cup, so don't use him as a midfielder, even if it's convenient for your team. I don't want to make threats and have no clue how to punish a manager, who attempts to do something like that. Just don't do it and we won't have any drama.
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So, we can't play a player who has played as the left winger in the Euros, as the right winger in the draft game?
 
Balu said:
Knockout games from the start.
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How about having group stages? We used to have them earlier but they dragged on a lot at times so we abandoned them. But even if it gets a bit slower, I think it presents a really fair chance to everyone. In KOs, sometimes two strong sides happen to meet at the start and one has to go out, and it can be a bit of a downer for someone to have worked hard to achieve a strong side only to have it play one game. So maybe if everyone agrees, we can go back to group stages. Multiple threads can run together for the group games.
 
Thanks for the tag Balu. Work is crazy these days so don't have the time sadly.

One day I'll be back in though :devil:
 
The Red Viper said:
So, we can't play a player who has played as the left winger in the Euros, as the right winger in the draft game?
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I imagine that if he was comfortable changing wings, he'd be alright in this context.

A winger is a winger, if you will, and a certain kind of winger will operate on both sides almost as per default - more than a player who may have played in more dramatically different positions. Lahm would be an obvious example. Using him as a DM is dramatically different from using him as a RB (or a LB).
 
Spent the last 2 hours making a 200 player shortlist. Which will take about 4 drafting rounds to get completely decimated I reckon. time well spent.

Also, I'll assume NM will be with Theon...so if anyone is interested in being an AM..shoot me a PM :)
 
Aldo said:
How about having group stages? We used to have them earlier but they dragged on a lot at times so we abandoned them. But even if it gets a bit slower, I think it presents a really fair chance to everyone. In KOs, sometimes two strong sides happen to meet at the start and one has to go out, and it can be a bit of a downer for someone to have worked hard to achieve a strong side only to have it play one game. So maybe if everyone agrees, we can go back to group stages. Multiple threads can run together for the group games.
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We had group stages in the All time British+Irish draft a few months ago and I personally thought it was boring. There were only 12 managers, so we had 4 groups of 3 teams. With 16 managers, it would be 4 groups with 4 teams and 3 group games for every team before we get to the first reinforcement round. I don't think it's a good idea.
 
The Red Viper said:
So, we can't play a player who has played as the left winger in the Euros, as the right winger in the draft game?
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Yeah, that's kinda the idea. It depends on the player of course, some wingers were a lot more versatile and used it throughout games, so it's less clear what side they played on. But the idea of the draft is to rate players on what they showed at the Euros. What I don't want to happen is that players are used out of position to get around the restrictions, because they showed a versatility for their clubs, that they never used in the tournaments. Then we enter a really difficult grey area, where players will be rated on what they've done for their clubs and that's not the idea here.

It's difficult to make it a strict rule, because different tactics and formations need the players to play different roles. So you have some leeway.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
The 3 players from pre 1966 rule seems too much. Do we have enough quality to go 3 rounds?

I think top half of draft order gets a huge bonus by this rule.

Opinions on doing away with it?
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Has there ever been a draft where you didn't moan all the time ;) ? There are definitely more than 50 players worth picking from those 7 tournaments. And that doesn't even include goalkeepers. Just take the time and look into the teams and learn something about lesser known players. No one will have a starting XI full of well known top players before the first match.
 
Balu said:
Has there ever been a draft where you didn't moan all the time ;) ? There are definitely more than 50 players worth picking from those 7 tournaments. And that doesn't even include goalkeepers. Just take the time and look into the teams and learn something about lesser known players. No one will have a starting XI full of well known top players before the first match.
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Based on recent memory..I'd have to say no, there probably hasn't been :)
 
For what it's worth, I think this rule favours the bottom half of the draft a lot. While the upper half of the managers can start by pick the superstars, the lower half can start by making 2 smart picks that'll make completing the team a lot easier. It should definitely lead to interesting first 2 rounds.
 
There are easily enough players for everyone among the CEIC + first two Euro teams.
 
Stupid question, if a player performed very well at one Euro tournament but bad at the other, will that effect how good a pick he is?
 
Paolo Di Canio said:
Stupid question, if a player performed very well at one Euro tournament but bad at the other, will that effect how good a pick he is?
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Most likely it won't. But there's no definite answer to it. In the end it's your job to convince the voters that he'll perform in your team as well as he did in his great tournament.
 
Paolo Di Canio said:
Stupid question, if a player performed very well at one Euro tournament but bad at the other, will that effect how good a pick he is?
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I wouldn't imagine it would make too big of a problem for you. I assume people will end up taking club careers of players into account as well, whether they should be or not.
 
Balu said:
For what it's worth, I think this rule favours the bottom half of the draft a lot. While the upper half of the managers can start by pick the superstars, the lower half can start by making 2 smart picks that'll make completing the team a lot easier. It should definitely lead to interesting first 2 rounds.
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You could be right here. Let's see how the dice rolls.
 
Wow, I just barely made it! That was fast. Lucky me, I would've been devastated to miss it :lol: It's great to see some new faces and one not so new in particular.
 
Anyone interested in scouting for me or being an AM.. pm me.
 
This looks great. It can be hard to seperate the overall careers of players from their tournament performances, especially with the older players, so hopefully there's a big emphasis in the match threads about individual performances at the Euros. Surprised @Gio hasn't got involved here as he'd be brilliant in this type of draft.
 
Pat_Mustard said:
This looks great. It can be hard to seperate the overall careers of players from their tournament performances, especially with the older players, so hopefully there's a big emphasis in the match threads about individual performances at the Euros. Surprised @Gio hasn't got involved here as he'd be brilliant in this type of draft.
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Are you playing? I have an AM spot open :)
 
I'm quite up for taking part, in any role that may be needed. Gimme a shout if so.
 
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