The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
Trump saying he is going to "stop" the Tesla protestors and they are domestic terrorists in his comedy informercial on our property. Storming the capital, attacking cops, rubbing feces on the walls is pardonable MAGA heroes. But holding up signs boycotting Tesla or selling yours out of protest is domestic terrorism now.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/ap-re...ever-paid-a-tariff-which-she-found-insulting/
straight up lying. they know they can do this because they only talk to their rubes. And rubes won't listen or read anything else but state propaganda
She finished that answer by saying she regretting allowing the Associated Press to ask a question, which is a pretty good indicator of American democracy's health under Trump.
Seems like Brits did their part yesterday in advising Ukrainian negotiators on how to handle the big baby Trump:
Nice of that dad standing up for his son
Bold statement after they pardoned literal domestic terrorists
Great patriots.
I believe the hack of Hillary Clinton‘s emails by the Russians, followed by the announcement of an investigation by the director of the FBI, had pushed the needle.
The only reason Trump has been elected twice, is with the assistance of the relentness peddling of false news by the Russians.
Trump does nothing for the working class, his supporters are cut off from reality.
I believe Bernie‘s message would have gotten through, he is also anti-establishment. His politics are clear, direct and pragmatic in contrast to Trump‘s rambling.
Saw a clip earlier today (Fox I think) where they were suggesting Tesla vandalism should be regarded as a hate crime. Totally insane.
another example of how this country has turned into a joke.Oh god, I had forgotten about that shit show.
What a statement
What are Trump supporter thinking? While I may not agree with much of what he's been doing, it's was to his credit that he was seemingly doing the things he promised to do quickly. Some of the stuff now looks daft and they are seemingly rolling back on positions he's stated publicly regularly now.
The whole tariff situation seems ridiculous and the so call handling of Ukraine/Russia seems messy with a fair bit of backtracking.
The whole tariff situation seems ridiculous and the so call handling of Ukraine/Russia seems messy with a fair bit of backtracking.
If the cease-fire is "unconditional" (no Russian retreat yet) as it stands, am catching up, then it is up to Putin now unquestionably. I.e., he has no space to maneuver if there are no conditions to the first phase of talks.
the cult section believe this is only hurting "liberals" so they cheer it on. These are the ones that believe everyone else pays the tarrifs.
The "economy republicans" that are embarrassed by their vote and starting to post online "i'm not sure what the goals are yet, it's not looking good, but we'll have to see what happens next"
Companies unable to set prices due to tarrifs changing hourly.
increasing uncertainty in what is trying to be achieved
realisation recent gains are too concentrated and built on vapourware.
Markets drop, uncertainty increases.
government officials come out and say this is what they want
Markets drop, uncertainty increases.
tariffs change again
Markets drop, uncertainty increases.
There is no one to step in and say this is what they want and this is how to get there. So we are nowhere near the bottom of this.
Its the mad rantings of a syphilitic mind and everyone around him sees all these posts and just replies with BASED.
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https://www.ft.com/content/cf876b19-8c69-498b-95f5-d018618d99ec
Friendly reminder that Wall street wanted this so they could call disabled people retarded again and not feel like they were going to be judged by others in the break room.
Trump’s eyesight is none too clever either by the looks of that….
Carney at least in my opinion was very god at BoE. He’s smart and knows his stuff economically. He’ll run rings around trump et al will be like a uni student debating a 4 year old.
Can we not build a pipe between Canada and Europe to syphon off that excess energy to EU?
I’m sure we’d take that and not start a needless trade war
Go out and buy your Nazi car, same car that Chuck Bladerunner drives when cruising the utopian Tannhauser streets in the movie classic Minority Deport. Time to buy.
AI slop is leaking out on to your reality.
AI slop is leaking out on to your reality.
Learning from history is a platitude now. Okay.
I'm well aware of Nazi Germany, Hitler, WW2 etc.
I mentioned the Treaty of Versailles, as an aside, in a direct response to you as you brought up Hitler.
That's probably because children's history books don't emphasise reflection. Perhaps it's time to move on to more serious learning.
It would be interesting to see if you're also able to apportion even some blame to your own ideology for the evil it has inspired and resulted in.
I didn't claim it was responsible. I said it was a significant contributory factor, which it was.
I'm not directly comparing them. I highlighted it because you brought up Hitler.
And it goes without saying that the Treaty of Versailles is not the same as NATO expansion. With that said...in my view too many people are falling into the trap of viewing the latter as somehow axiomatically good, and the institution itself as an entirely benign entity. As George Kennan said -”We have signed up to protect a whole series of countries, even though we have neither the resources nor the intention to do so in any serious way.”
And yet again - you brought up Hitler. That's why I mentioned the Treaty of Versailles, and it was an obvious thing to mention given the context of the discussion.
It's not my aim.
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That's not what l said.
It was in this thread, as it was used selectively.
Whether you misunderstood that on purpose or actually we can never know.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-c...iffs-are-worth-it-even-if-theres-a-recession/
Tariffs are government revenues. A business that cannot set a price on a good, don't know what to do. This is just wholesale lying. Tariffs are paid by foreign countries, tariffs are revenue for economies so why would there be a recession. If there is a recession then it's the old policies.
Everything is a fecking lie, continuously fecking lying.
Markets are irrational, if markets cannot set prices and the government is making statements like a North Korea TV anchor mixed with a drug addict crook, even the irrationality of markets cannot correct for this.
Firstly, this a serious issue.
And secondly, for something to be platitudinous it would have to have been used over and over again throughout the thread, as opposed to 4 or 5 references on a page.
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I'm not against it. He said he's holding off because they have a meeting in Thursday, which sounds reasonable. Also, those energy tariffs were making Trump go ballistic while the step back now had made him talk about Ford as a strong guy and a gentleman. With someone like Trump, who's all about personal relationships and toughness, that might actually be a good development.
I know - it's the hope that kills you.
Lutnick can present the tariffs as a negotiation tactic, but what's the ultimate goal then? It's clearly bit fentanyl or migration and if Trump doesn't, then at least his people know that Canada won't become part of the US. So what is Trump pressuring Canada (and Mexico) into then? Turn the trade deficits into surpluses?
Well, if they love Tesla so much now, maybe they'll start buying their cars then. Ultimately, I guess it's kind of a good thing if all the MAGA people start driving electric cars.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/department-education-faces-50-layoffs-after-closure-notice/story?id=119690524&utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/abc
here we go again the next department to be shut down. No planning, just act. all states about to be thrown in the lurch.
sorry if posted before but this is wild
better source to verify the story
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw2yywy3x7o
better source to verify the story
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw2yywy3x7o
It is a serious issue, which is why your assertions get such pushback.
It was the hollow empty nature of the use of the phrase that made me call it's use in this thread a platitude.
And yes again we are off topic.
That fact that this happened tells me that Musk is truly bothered by the boycott and tanking stock price, which is nice. Perhaps he could even get in trouble with banks if the price drops too low.
Also, it’s pretty clear that he asked Trump to do this, because there is no way Trump actually cares about the fate of Tesla.
I was thinking yesterday actually, I wonder just how much he has leveraged against Tesla. He leveraged against it for Twitter but that’s relatively chump change as he had other investors too. Do we know of any other ventures he’s likely to have leveraged?
~60% is being used as leverage
be interesting to see if his behaviour changes with the threat of losing a lot of his wealth at large
Shit that’s more than I expected. That’s well within the range of it being feasible he shifts into negative equity.
TSLA is down 31% in the last month and would anyone be surprised if it slumped another 30-40% from this position by July?
It’s only really back to pre-election levels, and I don’t believe he has leveraged it more since then.
The Tesla stock is an enigma though. All logic points towards a big drop over the next months, but it doesn’t follow the usual logic of the market.
His SpaceX stock is worth a bomb though and loads of private equity investors would rip his arm off for it. He can always dip into that again if needed.