@Edgar Allan Pillow when you get a chance to update the OP please 
The Third Basketball Fantasy Draft - SF: Akshay/Syrian vs Skizzo
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@Edgar Allan Pillow when you get a chance to update the OP please
Done.
The things I do for you. Hmph!
Plenty of votes which is nice to see..but without any feedback so it's hard to keep much discussion going
Yeah same happened in the QFs too.
These things have just become a straw poll. You ought to have a chance to convince some of these voters.
It's a shame, although I suppose to be somewhat expected on a footy forum for a basketball draft. It's not that I feel the score is unfair or anything, as obviously you guys have a great team, and were set up properly from the start
but the footy drafts have been great source of info when there's been discussion around the matches...was hoping something similar would be possible for this too.His style of play always mirrored a 4 more than a 5.
Depends on the era, really. Right now he'd be absolutely at home as a 5. However with a traditional 5 in the team like Robinson he'll have a lot more freedom at 4 and can impact the game better in terms of taking over. Both Robinson and Hakeen will easily get the better of Ewing hence it makes sense to have The Admiral occupy him leaving The Dream to play a free role. There's no 4 in history including Tim Duncan who can live with Hakeem's offense and Dirk especially will be exposed against those offensive moves. It makes a lot of sense to me in this matchup. Also since Robinson made a great partnership with a hybrid PF-C like Duncan at Spurs.
It's your match up. It's up to you guys to do the convincing. As for me, the two teams together have nine great players/superstars and Reggie Miller. In such a close contest Reggie is the deciding factor. I said in the previous round he is massively overrated bringing very little to the table. For a career he shoots under 40% from 3 on less than 5/game and that is supposed to be his forte. Apart from off the ball scoring at which he was very, very good (not elite) there is nothing else there. Defensively he wasn't great, and not a lot from assists and rebounds either.
As basketball fans we should all be appalled at the nomination and eventually the enshrinement of Reggie Miller into the Basketball Hall of Fame. It is a travesty of epic proportion. However, it continues a pattern that the NBA has established of allowing good players into a room designated for only the flawless.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1081043-reggie-miller-is-not-hall-of-fame-worthy
Sorry Skizzo, I think your front court is tremendous but overall I've got to give it to Akshay.
It's impossible to convince voters who don't explain why they're voting though. Not like we can read their minds. Kudos to you for sharing your reasons.
Not a Reggie fan either but that's a bit of an overreaction.
He has a career TS% of .614 - that IS elite. And he was the main scorer for Indiana and therefore the main man the defence payed attention to.
In this team he's just supposed to provide spacing and take open shots, so I see that team working very well.
Saying he shot under 40% from 3 is a bit nitpicking as well as he shot .395 (and .390 in the playoffs which is well above average), if you deduct his Rookie and retirement year he's over 40% - his opposing SG btw. took a similar amount of threes per game on a career percentage of under 33%.
If I'd have to complain about Skizzos team I'd start with that pathetic bench. Fisher and Lillard as the bench backcourt? Disgusting. Syrians bench isn't great but definitely better. I still take Skizzo's starting 5 over his opponent, which is why I voted for him.
It is nitpicking that is true but when this particular skill is the one that he is known for I don't think it is unreasonable to point it out especially when there are an awful lot of specialist 3 point shooters who meet this criteria. As to Kobe shooting under 33% from three for his career, if that was all he was known for I'd have a similar beef with his stats too. However, for the sake of argument (or lack of) I'll just assume you didn't really compare Kobe to Reggie Miller and just move on.
Okaaay, didn't expect such a pissed off reaction; I used Kobe because he's the opposing SG (like I wrote) in this matchup and to show that looking just at one stat is a bit flawed. Yes there are a lot of guys who have a better career 3p% than Reggie but if you look at player who took them on a high volume with consistency there aren't that many left. Of the Top 15 All time leaders of three pointers made only Allen, Curry and Korver have a higher percentage. And why talk only about Three Pointers anyway? Yes, if someone made the argument that he's a better 3p specialist than Curry or Thompson I'd laugh at him as well. But this matchup is about a shooting guard providing spacing and shooting efficient, not only through three pointers.
He has the highest TS% of all SGs of all time and the second highest after Curry of all guards. That's pretty useful I'd say, especially if you have Olajuwon and Robinson destroying the paint and therefore giving you open looks.
Wasn't pissed off at all. Sorry if it came across that way. I suppose it's my natural winning personality. My major point was that Miller is 1 dimensional and that 1 dimension isn't that great so in such a close match up the fact that one player doesn't provide the overall positives that everybody else brings to the table for me was the deciding factor.
EDIT: I really am sorry it came across that way. Sometimes I am too flippant for my own good.
@charlton66 cheers for the explanation.
While i won't get into a debate about Reggie with you, as you clearly already know how you feel I'll just say that he's used for spacing, and the threat that he brings creating open looks for Steph and Hakeem etc. Having a serious threat from deep, which he would still have to be considered, means the other team can't double up on Steph, leaving him free in one on ones to create those shots for himself off the dribble, or play it into Hakeem who would be thriving on some extra space to terrorize Nowitzki.
Not trying to convince you as I know you're adamant just explaining my reasoning for him being there.
While i won't get into a debate about Reggie with you, as you clearly already know how you feel
I'll just say that he's used for spacing, and the threat that he brings creating open looks for Steph and Hakeem etc. Having a serious threat from deep, which he would still have to be considered, means the other team can't double up on Steph, leaving him free in one on ones to create those shots for himself off the dribble, or play it into Hakeem who would be thriving on some extra space to terrorize Nowitzki.Not trying to convince you as I know you're adamant
just explaining my reasoning for him being there.Klay Thompson, while usually considered a 'lesser' name would do that job a lot better here tbf.
The way I would look at this is that I would see if Reggie Miller could beat me. I would double team Steph and then let the chips fall where they may. There were definitely times when Reggie got hot and if this were one of those occasions I think you win but for most of his career IMLTHO Reggie was a very good player but not a great one and so I would take my chances on him.@charlton66 cheers for the explanation.
While i won't get into a debate about Reggie with you, as you clearly already know how you feel
Not trying to convince you as I know you're adamant
Congrats @Akshay @syrian_scholes good luck for the final!
Thank you @Skizzo ,good game.
Thanks @Skizzo great team you had there. Curry and Hakeem
It was a close run game in the end, well done to both, great teams.