Skizzo
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Yeah, fair enough. If neither of the manager asks for a specific starting time, just start the games whenever it works for you. Less work for me .
I figured you've covered me enough as it is already
Yeah, fair enough. If neither of the manager asks for a specific starting time, just start the games whenever it works for you. Less work for me .
Yeah, but even the underrated versions of them are rated a lot higher than for example Sergio Ramos or Ze Roberto
I didn't really see enough of Ze Roberto on a week-to-week basis to really judge him fairly as a left back, but I probably am too harsh on Ramos. In general though it is strange and interesting how the 'tier' thing works in these threads. Ashley Cole is (rightly) seen as a decent and solid left back even in an all-time pool, yet Evra rarely warrants a mention even though there was so little to seperate them at their peaks.
The strange thing about Ze Roberto is that he rarely played as a leftback but it's still often considered as his main position. He played as a left sided midfielder at Leverkusen, sometimes as a wingback, with Kovac/Placente as leftbacks/left centerbacks in a back four/three. At Bayern (Lizarazu followed by Lahm at leftback) and for Brazil (Carlos at leftback) he was clearly a midfielder. He can play as an attacking fullback and as a winger, but it's not his best position. I'd say Ze Roberto is a bit underrated, he was fantastic at his peak (2002-2007) and a wonderful versatile midfielder, in my opinion Brazil's best player at the World Cup in 2006. In his best role he played similar to di Maria last season, probably a bit more defensive, but not that different overall. A central midfielder who loved to drift wide, overload the left wing in attack.I didn't really see enough of Ze Roberto on a week-to-week basis to really judge him fairly as a left back.
The strange thing about Ze Roberto is that he rarely played as a leftback but it's still often considered as his main position. He played as a left sided midfielder at Leverkusen, sometimes as a wingback, with Kovac/Placente as leftbacks/left centerbacks in a back four/three. At Bayern (Lizarazu followed by Lahm at leftback) and for Brazil (Carlos at leftback) he was clearly a midfielder. He can play as an attacking fullback and as a winger, but it's not his best position. I'd say Ze Roberto is a bit underrated, he was fantastic at his peak (2002-2007) and a wonderful versatile midfielder, in my opinion Brazil's best player at the World Cup in 2006. In his best role he played similar to di Maria last season, probably a bit more defensive, but not that different overall. A central midfielder who loved to drift wide, overload the left wing in attack.
Aye that sums him up for me. He can do the wing-back role well enough as shown at Leverkusen, and possibly as a left-back subject to it being the right set-up.The strange thing about Ze Roberto is that he rarely played as a leftback but it's still often considered as his main position. He played as a left sided midfielder at Leverkusen, sometimes as a wingback, with Kovac/Placente as leftbacks/left centerbacks in a back four/three. At Bayern (Lizarazu followed by Lahm at leftback) and for Brazil (Carlos at leftback) he was clearly a midfielder. He can play as an attacking fullback and as a winger, but it's not his best position. I'd say Ze Roberto is a bit underrated, he was fantastic at his peak (2002-2007) and a wonderful versatile midfielder, in my opinion Brazil's best player at the World Cup in 2006. In his best role he played similar to di Maria last season, probably a bit more defensive, but not that different overall. A central midfielder who loved to drift wide, overload the left wing in attack.
Since I'm a firm believer in Feng Shui, astrology etc, I'll provide hh:mm:ss. Make sure you are accurate as even a second earlier or later would result in a catastrophe.Yeah, fair enough. If neither of the manager asks for a specific starting time, just start the games whenever it works for you. Less work for me .
Exactly, with Sajeev we had him in the shortlist as a wingback, but thought NM would do well picking him as the left-mid for his diamond. Wouldn't ever play him or pick him as a regular leftback.
Aye that sums him up for me. He can do the wing-back role well enough as shown at Leverkusen, and possibly as a left-back subject to it being the right set-up.
“Ashley is the best left-back England have ever had and he’s shown that again," says Lampard. "He has been brilliant.
“But that does not surprise me. I have seen him go toe to toe with the best names in the game and have never seen anyone get the better of him. Not Lionel Messi, not Cristiano Ronaldo, not anybody.
When pressed on the issue of the greatest LB he'd ever faced, C.Ronaldo told Sport-Express: "Ashley Cole. He's a very tough, tenacious football player."
Aragones also said that Schuster read the game as well as anyone he'd ever seen, "Sometimes while sat on the bench I thought it would be perfect now if he passed the ball forward and he would! He would always pass at the right time".
Even the robotic Lothar Matthäus grieved after his departure, saying, "Schuster is a genius. One of the best players the Bundesliga has seen, if not the best. Bayer Leverkusen have lost a piece of their heart without him."
Beckenbauer - "He will be the big leader in the World Cup 1982. His new time in Spain will be very good for his personal improvement. In midfield he is great and in the Libero position he could be a good successor of mine"
Maradona - "The 'Blond' is the only player who could help me in my difficult time in Barcelona, either in and out the field. We have quality enough to understand each other into the field. He is a master. I was trying to shot like him, to imitate to him...We were some times together shooting after the training was over.
The idea here was to use him as a LB because the setup is perfect for it. We needed him to provide width on the left, and we had a CB next to him who was very comfortable covering for a player galloping forward.
Plus he has 2 very defensively minded midfielders in front of him. It was a very specific setup. Otherwise, I would never pick him as a normal LB in a 4-3-3- for example.
This was supposed to be a sheep draft Joga. Not an all time snake draft. Some cheating has been going on here for sure. Where is your DaMarcus? Where is your Landa? Damn you.
Fine team @Joga Bonito - well balanced and capable of mixing it.
@Joga Bonito I look for weakness, and can't find it. Top team. Alas, Mascherano is a cnut, so I still hate it!
Figured that he won't fit well in the side with Alonso in it. I'm sad to see him missing out.Stielike is the one I'm totally baffled about... with so many wingers blocked and teams banking on wingbacks and attacking fullbacks, you would think he would be handy, wouldn't you? Apparently not.
@Joga Bonito top side!
Hey do you mind starting the match now as I'll be here for the next 2-3 hours before slipping off for the next 6-7. Don't want to miss the start of the match if possible. If you are going to log off soon and will only be back later, then that's fine too and the match can be started later as per your convenience.
Looks like Skizzo and Balu aren't here. Is there anyone else online, willing to start our game?
Edit : Will delete this post after someone responds so that it doesn't interfere with your write ups
Looks like Skizzo and Balu aren't here. Is there anyone else online, willing to start our game?
Edit : Will delete this post after someone responds so that it doesn't interfere with your write ups
Tuesday - MJJ vs NM
Wednesday - Raees vs Joga Bonito
Thursday - Harms vs VivaJanuzaj
---------- NoPace vs Edgar Allan Pillow
Friday - Stobzilla vs KPS88
Saturday - Kazi vs Cutch
Sunday - available
Monday - available
Tuesday - available
Annahnomoss when suits?
Friday or Saturday would be best for me.
You choose completely!
Sunday isn't OK for me but both Monday and Tuesday are.
next tuesday works really well for me
Cheers mateAwesome side vjay.
Man for man you have improved the 99 midfield that's without adding dunga into the mix.Cheers mate
Yeah I'll explain more on it with my tactics in mind in the matchday thread, but I really think that against most teams here, with the quality of midfields around, Scholes-Keane by themselves aren't defensive enough.@VivaJanuzaj aside from the weirdness of seeing Keane and Scholes in a midfield 3, that is a top top side.
Only slight weakness is the full backs (in the context of this draft).
Thanks mate, I hope I'll go through round one than it's open game imo, lots of great teams around and my first round won't be a walk in the park.Man for man you have improved the 99 midfield that's without adding dunga into the mix.
A few improvements and you can easily win this draft imo.