The Road Trip Draft QF: Don Alfredo vs. MJJ

Who will win this match based on all the players at their peaks?


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Yeah it’s an extremely limp right flank for Don Alfredo.

Varela is on that side because Zebec is a better defender than Sagnol. I don‘t need a great right winger to go up against Zanetti when the plan is to break through with Bergkamp-Henry-Romario against his ill-fitted CBs. Just Sagnol as a presence on the right is enough to stop Zanetti from tucking inside and this gives me a big mismatch in the middle.
 
because Zebec is a better defender than Sagnol.
From whatever I have read about Zebec, I'd be highly surprised if that's true. As versatile and athletic as he was in covering multiple positions, Sagnol while not being a fancy name was an absolutely stellar defender who did his job consistently for multiple seasons and formed a rock solid back 4 in the 2006 WC which conceded 1 goal in 3 group games and then 1 goal up till the final keeping clean sheets against Brazil and Portugal. A proper traditional fullback whose incredible delivery (one that almost got the winning assist in the WC final) never came at the cost of his defensive nous. As an out and out defensive presence I'd take him ahead of Zebec any day.
 
Both Falcao and Scholes are the midfield maestros in their best incarnations. That is where the overlap is, unless you use the young version of Scholes, but if you do that you don‘t get his elite build up play from deep like he did in his later years. He was not that all conquering force in his younger years, more like an AM/SS. But he did not play this role at an All-Time level like Maradona or something.

Again the overlap is between Falcao and Scholes, not with Makelele. I hope you are not saying that Falcao is like Carrick because that would be like saying that Xavi is the same player as Busquets.

Regarding your point of Scholes against Barca 08, that was not a great Barca side at all. They finished third in La Liga on 67 points behind fecking Villareal that season and only when Pep came in, he completely transformed the side and made it the juggernaut we all know from 2009.

You don‘t have Makelele stopping Robson because if you do that, Bergkamp is gonna run riot in that gaping hole in front of your defence. Bergkamp-Henry-Romario vs Vierchowood-Ruggeri is just gonna end one way.

I am using the younger version of scholes as I do have andrade at the back and need a more box to box scholes here given the formation I am up against.

That was more to highlight that he can share the ball with another primary playmaker and still shine, not saying the two are alike.

Did you find out anything on zebec playing LB btw?
 
Varela is on that side because Zebec is a better defender than Sagnol. I don‘t need a great right winger to go up against Zanetti when the plan is to break through with Bergkamp-Henry-Romario against his ill-fitted CBs. Just Sagnol as a presence on the right is enough to stop Zanetti from tucking inside and this gives me a big mismatch in the middle.

I don’t think football works that way. You can’t just decide to attack through the middle, restrict yourself to that area of the pitch, and then expect it work as you have some sort of ‘numerical advantage’.

When you constrict the space that you attack in then it becomes easier for the opposition defenders as they can play close together and playing through them becomes that much harder. I think a presence on the right would be needed to pull the defenders wider, which gives the likes of Romario more room to play in. As it is, I can see Romario struggling to find space here.
 
3-5-2 is most vulnerable to space in behind the wingbacks and not the best when facing just one striker as he can pull them out of position, so not sure why going with such formation when another team has Dzajic and Garrincha out of all people.

While that looks well covered on paper in reality both Krol and Nesta will be dragged wide to help prevent the danger, leaving Cannavaro with MVB way too often. Not to mention it also requires a great understanding between defenders to make it work. Did Cannavaro ever played this role?

That said, liked MJJ midfield more in the first round.

Thats exactly what I would imagine will happen. Krol is already tasked with marking garrincha so he is getting drawn out wide more often than not and I would back my zanetti/dzajic flank to overrun sagnol which means either nesta or varela goes outwide.
 
Varela is on that side because Zebec is a better defender than Sagnol. I don‘t need a great right winger to go up against Zanetti when the plan is to break through with Bergkamp-Henry-Romario against his ill-fitted CBs. Just Sagnol as a presence on the right is enough to stop Zanetti from tucking inside and this gives me a big mismatch in the middle.

Small sample size but romario and ruggeri faced off twice, romario scored once which was due to a mistake by another defender(miskicked a ball directly into romario's feet) so not sure this is true.

Vierchowod was also one of the fastest defenders around and somebody who could keep tabs on henry so he is well suited to dealing with both too.
 
Varela is on that side because Zebec is a better defender than Sagnol

Zebec and Sagnol's primary job is to provide width in a 3-5-2. Zebec is the better attacker while Sagnol I don't think ever played a role comparable to an all time wingback as a sole attacker on one side of the pitch.

Zebec's attacking game with Varela's defensive is quite complimentary. So is Robson and Sagnol's both being very balanced in both attack and defense.
 
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Liked the Falcao/Andrade platform with the option of playing Scholes either in the hole ala behind RvN or as a DLP. Not a fan of the current midfield.

My thoughts too especially with the lack of ball playing in his CBs. Tigana would have been a better choice than Makelele as he could have kept Scholes at DLP with Tigana box-to-box.
 
My thoughts too especially with the lack of ball playing in his CBs. Tigana would have been a better choice than Makelele as he could have kept Scholes at DLP with Tigana box-to-box.

The thought process over picking makelele was that scholes would get murdered against a GOAT ten.

Congrats @MJJ and good luck going forward:)

Not over yet mate, plenty of time left.
 
The thought process over picking makelele was that Scholes would get murdered against a GOAT ten.

That makes sense but Scholes isn't that bad defensively as he's portrayed. Sjor's vids vs Barca show this well.