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V.O. had a great career
2014 Draft and Free Agency
2014 Draft and Free Agency
Draft
First round: @V.O. @Salt Bailly
Second Round: @Dan
Free Agency
@altodevil has re-signed with the Los Angeles Lakers for $14.63M/yr through 2019 (when he'll be 40)
@hobbers has re-signed with the Boston Celtics for ($17.95M/yr through 2019 (him too!)
@Samid has left the tragic Charlotte Bobcats and chosen to sign with the Minnesota Timberwolves for $1.49M/yr through 2016 - putting him joint 5th for most different teams in NBA history at 10.
Trades @P-Nut @Salt Bailly @reelworld @hobbers @Stobzilla @The Cat @BenitoSTARR @Skizzo
We've got a lot of trades, so hold on to your hats or whatever.
P-Nut didn't get to enjoy the thought of being in Sacramento with rookie Pepper Bailly, as he's immediately sentenced to go hang out with reelworld II in Milwaukee.
The Raptors signing another FC to hang out with Two Nil. One pick isn't a lot.
The Spurs have been busy. Nobbers can decide for himself if it was good busy or bad busy. The first one at least seems like a good deal for Salt Bailly's Pistons.
Boston still has Anthony Davis and John Henson (and more!) at Center, so this seems like a crazy good deal. Acie Law plays in the same position as hobbers and Skizzo, but we're talking about players about to turn 36 and 33 respectively.
Seems like a win-win for the Thunder (The Cub) and the Kings (Pepper Bailly) - at least in the short term.
I think this is the Knicks future-proofing a bit. They do have Stobzilla II in the Center position, so this might not hurt his and BenitoSTARR's chances of being good.
Up Next: Season Preview for 2014/2015
Draft
First round: @V.O. @Salt Bailly
Second Round: @Dan
Free Agency
@altodevil has re-signed with the Los Angeles Lakers for $14.63M/yr through 2019 (when he'll be 40)
@hobbers has re-signed with the Boston Celtics for ($17.95M/yr through 2019 (him too!)
@Samid has left the tragic Charlotte Bobcats and chosen to sign with the Minnesota Timberwolves for $1.49M/yr through 2016 - putting him joint 5th for most different teams in NBA history at 10.
Trades @P-Nut @Salt Bailly @reelworld @hobbers @Stobzilla @The Cat @BenitoSTARR @Skizzo
We've got a lot of trades, so hold on to your hats or whatever.
P-Nut didn't get to enjoy the thought of being in Sacramento with rookie Pepper Bailly, as he's immediately sentenced to go hang out with reelworld II in Milwaukee.
The Raptors signing another FC to hang out with Two Nil. One pick isn't a lot.
The Spurs have been busy. Nobbers can decide for himself if it was good busy or bad busy. The first one at least seems like a good deal for Salt Bailly's Pistons.
Boston still has Anthony Davis and John Henson (and more!) at Center, so this seems like a crazy good deal. Acie Law plays in the same position as hobbers and Skizzo, but we're talking about players about to turn 36 and 33 respectively.
Seems like a win-win for the Thunder (The Cub) and the Kings (Pepper Bailly) - at least in the short term.
I think this is the Knicks future-proofing a bit. They do have Stobzilla II in the Center position, so this might not hurt his and BenitoSTARR's chances of being good.
Up Next: Season Preview for 2014/2015
Damn, managed to walk straight onto a playoff quality team with the first pick? That's a hell of a lot more luck than er, big V.O. ever had.
Also, godspeed to @Dan with his build of being an all time great at scoring without actually knowing what a basketball is.
Also, godspeed to @Dan with his build of being an all time great at scoring without actually knowing what a basketball is.
14/15 Season Preview - General
14/15 Season Preview General
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Pre-season Power Rankings
Team Finances and Strategy
Top Preview
(@BenitoSTARR @Dan @Dr. Dwayne @P-Nut @Salt Bailly @Samid @Skizzo @Solius @Stobzilla @The Cat @V.O. @altodevil @hobbers @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @sebsheep @weetee)
Pre-season Power Rankings
Team Finances and Strategy
Top Preview
Lakers dynasty over, time to pad stats and chill.
Once I retire, sontodevil will be a Laker.
Once I retire, sontodevil will be a Laker.
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Thinking one last season then introduce my son while I play one more with him in the league.
feck me a -6 drop. I’ll get to work producing a son.
might take a year
Hobbers was 72,89 when he was 19. Apple doesn’t fall far
Nobbers gonna nobble Kevin durant
Nobbers gonna nobble Kevin durant
Wow our team is so bad
14/15 Season Preview - East
14/15 Season Preview East
@hobbers @Skizzo @sebsheep @Dr. Dwayne @Salt Bailly @oneniltothearsenal @BenitoSTARR @Stobzilla @P-Nut @reelworld
This time I'm only including the squad down to 55 rating.
SebJr - Miami Heat (46-36, 1st Round)
Improvements for both SebJr himself and the Heat. They did quite well this year, so so logically you would expect them to do even better this year. It's a deep, young squad, so it might not be such a bad idea for SebJr to stay in Miami after his contract expires.
BenitoSTARR & Stobzilla II - New York Knicks (51-31, 1st Round)
Decline has truly come to New York. It's even taken Stobzilla II, who isn't even old. The Knicks have been up and down for a few years, but this is definitely going to be a down season. I'd be shocked if they can make the playoffs, even though BenitoSTARR is still quite good. Behind the two Cafites there's practically nothing.
hobbers & Skizzo - Boston Celtics (69-13, Runners-up)
hobbers has the slowest decline in the game. He's just gone down to 78 in rating, and he's turned 36. At this rate he'll be in the "superstar" category for another couple of seasons, and then in the "good player" category for a few more after that - if he doesn't retire. Skizzo, on the other hand, has well and truly left that category behind.
Salt Bailly - Detroit Pistons (24-58)
Salt Bailly is 37 years old. That's practically one foot in the grave. His ratings have acted accordingly, though he's still a serviceable player. His son is the future, but he's in the other conference.
Dr. Dwayne - Cleveland Cavaliers (48-34, 2nd Round)
Dr. Dwayne is our second 37-year old, and he too is feeling it in his bones. Most of the decline over the years has been physical, however, so he's still got the skills to make something happen for his Cavaliers.
Two Nil - Toronto Raptors (39-43)
Two Nil didn't have such a great start to the season, getting immediately sidelined for a few weeks. His Raptors only have pretty good players, but they've got a lot of them. Some of them are quite young as well, like Two Nil himself.
reelworld II & P-Nut - Milwaukee Bucks (37-45)
When you look at the top 3-4 players on the Bucks, you wonder why they aren't tipped to do better. The squad has the depth of a puddle, however. In fact, even if I had kept including players down to 50 overall rating, the screenshot would be no larger. The 6th best player on the team is a healthy 47 rating, and he's getting solid minutes. He also has a PER of -19.6. reelworld II and P-Nut are great players, who had great seasons last year, so now you know why you won't see them in the playoffs.
@hobbers @Skizzo @sebsheep @Dr. Dwayne @Salt Bailly @oneniltothearsenal @BenitoSTARR @Stobzilla @P-Nut @reelworld
This time I'm only including the squad down to 55 rating.
SebJr - Miami Heat (46-36, 1st Round)
Improvements for both SebJr himself and the Heat. They did quite well this year, so so logically you would expect them to do even better this year. It's a deep, young squad, so it might not be such a bad idea for SebJr to stay in Miami after his contract expires.
BenitoSTARR & Stobzilla II - New York Knicks (51-31, 1st Round)
Decline has truly come to New York. It's even taken Stobzilla II, who isn't even old. The Knicks have been up and down for a few years, but this is definitely going to be a down season. I'd be shocked if they can make the playoffs, even though BenitoSTARR is still quite good. Behind the two Cafites there's practically nothing.
hobbers & Skizzo - Boston Celtics (69-13, Runners-up)
hobbers has the slowest decline in the game. He's just gone down to 78 in rating, and he's turned 36. At this rate he'll be in the "superstar" category for another couple of seasons, and then in the "good player" category for a few more after that - if he doesn't retire. Skizzo, on the other hand, has well and truly left that category behind.
Salt Bailly - Detroit Pistons (24-58)
Salt Bailly is 37 years old. That's practically one foot in the grave. His ratings have acted accordingly, though he's still a serviceable player. His son is the future, but he's in the other conference.
Dr. Dwayne - Cleveland Cavaliers (48-34, 2nd Round)
Dr. Dwayne is our second 37-year old, and he too is feeling it in his bones. Most of the decline over the years has been physical, however, so he's still got the skills to make something happen for his Cavaliers.
Two Nil - Toronto Raptors (39-43)
Two Nil didn't have such a great start to the season, getting immediately sidelined for a few weeks. His Raptors only have pretty good players, but they've got a lot of them. Some of them are quite young as well, like Two Nil himself.
reelworld II & P-Nut - Milwaukee Bucks (37-45)
When you look at the top 3-4 players on the Bucks, you wonder why they aren't tipped to do better. The squad has the depth of a puddle, however. In fact, even if I had kept including players down to 50 overall rating, the screenshot would be no larger. The 6th best player on the team is a healthy 47 rating, and he's getting solid minutes. He also has a PER of -19.6. reelworld II and P-Nut are great players, who had great seasons last year, so now you know why you won't see them in the playoffs.
Skizzo well into team mascot territory.
Feels like the powerbase from east to west has definitely shifted.
Feels like the powerbase from east to west has definitely shifted.
This might actually be Kevin Durant's year, because he got really lucky with his teammates.
You guys are still technically higher in team rating, but their depth is going to be killer.
Now hobbers gifted AD in his prime. Unreal. God's truly favour hobbers and he still can't win.
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I’m not saying he’s shit or anything but…. How can you be that high rated, with that good a team and not even come close…. Just doesn’t have the mentality to win.
Not like @altodevil she’s a terrific player.
If Nobbers manages to avoid Charlotte I expect him to win about 10 playoff titles.
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14/15 Season Preview - West
14/15 Season Preview West
@V.O. @Solius @altodevil @weetee @Samid @Dan @hobbers @Salt Bailly @The Cat
Lil' V.O. - Houston Rockets (50-32, 1st Round)
Lil' V.O. has similar features to his father, though perhaps not quite the same frame. As many others have in their first year, he's gone slightly back in skills and slightly forward in endurance and IQ. He's also jumped straight into a pretty good team, who just got even better. I don't think they're winning the league yet, but he'll almost certainly see the playoffs in his rookie year.
altodevil - Los Angeles Lakers (54-28, Conference Finals)
Father time is relentless, and he's still coming for 36-year old altodevil. And also most of the rest of the Lakers. I've called the end of 1-seed Lakers for a while now, but this time I'm certain. The West is getting stronger, and the Lakers are just too old now. They're not bad though, so playoffs are definitely likely.
Pepper Bailly - Sacramento Kings (28-54)
Pepper Bailly has immediately become the best player on his first team, the Kings. You wouldn't think they had particularly good chances at making the playoffs, but crazier things have happened.
The Cub - Oklahoma City Thunder (22-60)
Here's the thing. Oklahoma City is bad. The Cub? Well he's good. But his team is bad. Is he good enough to drag them into the playoffs? I wouldn't bet on it, but our man has quietly been one of the best players in the league for a couple of seasons now.
sontodevil & Solius - Memphis Grizzlies (38-44)
Solius is still a very good player, but the end is probably in sight. Most of the decline was physical, so he should still be able to put up great scoring and assists numbers, but his lack of speed and jumping might make him a defensive liability. So it's lucky for him that he's got sontodevil on his team. I expected the duo to be better last year, but maybe this is the year?
Nobbers - San Antonio Spurs (45-37, 1st Round)
Nobbers took a formidable leap over the summer, and he can now comfortably be called a superstar. The West is strong this year, so he'll need to continue the great form he engendered in his Spurs at the end of last season, if they're to make a mark this year.
Dan II - Phoenix Suns (24-58)
Oh Dan II, bless your little heart. If you're a big Dan-fan and you're excited about following the exploits of his son, let me save you the trouble. He'll play almost no basketball. Yet.
weetee & Samid - Minnesota Timberwolves (44-38)
weetee and Samid have a combined age of 74, and a combined jumping rating of 16. Samid in particular has now reached the point where he'll get almost no playing time, despite still being perfectly able to score some points when he does play. Both him and weetee took a large step backwards over the summer.
@V.O. @Solius @altodevil @weetee @Samid @Dan @hobbers @Salt Bailly @The Cat
Lil' V.O. - Houston Rockets (50-32, 1st Round)
Lil' V.O. has similar features to his father, though perhaps not quite the same frame. As many others have in their first year, he's gone slightly back in skills and slightly forward in endurance and IQ. He's also jumped straight into a pretty good team, who just got even better. I don't think they're winning the league yet, but he'll almost certainly see the playoffs in his rookie year.
altodevil - Los Angeles Lakers (54-28, Conference Finals)
Father time is relentless, and he's still coming for 36-year old altodevil. And also most of the rest of the Lakers. I've called the end of 1-seed Lakers for a while now, but this time I'm certain. The West is getting stronger, and the Lakers are just too old now. They're not bad though, so playoffs are definitely likely.
Pepper Bailly - Sacramento Kings (28-54)
Pepper Bailly has immediately become the best player on his first team, the Kings. You wouldn't think they had particularly good chances at making the playoffs, but crazier things have happened.
The Cub - Oklahoma City Thunder (22-60)
Here's the thing. Oklahoma City is bad. The Cub? Well he's good. But his team is bad. Is he good enough to drag them into the playoffs? I wouldn't bet on it, but our man has quietly been one of the best players in the league for a couple of seasons now.
sontodevil & Solius - Memphis Grizzlies (38-44)
Solius is still a very good player, but the end is probably in sight. Most of the decline was physical, so he should still be able to put up great scoring and assists numbers, but his lack of speed and jumping might make him a defensive liability. So it's lucky for him that he's got sontodevil on his team. I expected the duo to be better last year, but maybe this is the year?
Nobbers - San Antonio Spurs (45-37, 1st Round)
Nobbers took a formidable leap over the summer, and he can now comfortably be called a superstar. The West is strong this year, so he'll need to continue the great form he engendered in his Spurs at the end of last season, if they're to make a mark this year.
Dan II - Phoenix Suns (24-58)
Oh Dan II, bless your little heart. If you're a big Dan-fan and you're excited about following the exploits of his son, let me save you the trouble. He'll play almost no basketball. Yet.
weetee & Samid - Minnesota Timberwolves (44-38)
weetee and Samid have a combined age of 74, and a combined jumping rating of 16. Samid in particular has now reached the point where he'll get almost no playing time, despite still being perfectly able to score some points when he does play. Both him and weetee took a large step backwards over the summer.
That's just the way we roll in the Bailly household.
I might bet a dollar on Boston this year.
Still starting five. Love it.
Teaser for the 25-game update:
One of these players has more wins "added" than their team has in total.
One of these players has more wins "added" than their team has in total.
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Oh dear I'm guessing I'm bottom from that update
14/15 25-Game Update
14/15 25-Game Update
(@BenitoSTARR @Dan @Dr. Dwayne @P-Nut @Salt Bailly @Samid @Skizzo @Solius @Stobzilla @The Cat @V.O. @altodevil @hobbers @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @sebsheep @weetee)
Trades for days!
weetee (Timberwolves > Thunder), Samid (Timberwolves), The Cub (Thunder) - Why be part of a 12 win team when you can be part of a 5 win team? That must be what weetee is thinking right now, desperately trying to justify the path his career has taken.
Samid (Timberwolves), Solius & sontodevil (Grizzlies) - Why have Sean Williams when you can have a younger Khris Middleton? Khris Middleton could turn into anything - even another Sean Williams.
Two Nil (Raptors) - seems fair?
Nobbers (Spurs) This is not the Spurs trying to get back into the playoffs, but that might honestly be a good thing for Nobbers. Build for the future.
SebJr (Heat) - this seems like a great trade for Miami
altodevil (Lakers) - the dynasty is officially dead
Standings
Cafites perfectly spread about the league. Interestingly, in the West fully 4 out of 5 Cafites who are in playoff spots are 19 or younger. In the East 4 out of 6 are 33 or older, and even the two younger players are 24 and 26.
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Trades for days!
weetee (Timberwolves > Thunder), Samid (Timberwolves), The Cub (Thunder) - Why be part of a 12 win team when you can be part of a 5 win team? That must be what weetee is thinking right now, desperately trying to justify the path his career has taken.
Samid (Timberwolves), Solius & sontodevil (Grizzlies) - Why have Sean Williams when you can have a younger Khris Middleton? Khris Middleton could turn into anything - even another Sean Williams.
Two Nil (Raptors) - seems fair?
Nobbers (Spurs) This is not the Spurs trying to get back into the playoffs, but that might honestly be a good thing for Nobbers. Build for the future.
SebJr (Heat) - this seems like a great trade for Miami
altodevil (Lakers) - the dynasty is officially dead
Standings
Cafites perfectly spread about the league. Interestingly, in the West fully 4 out of 5 Cafites who are in playoff spots are 19 or younger. In the East 4 out of 6 are 33 or older, and even the two younger players are 24 and 26.
Look at alto bottom half. Meanwhile I'm feeding off his son's youthful vigour to keep me alive.
@nimic am I starting five or not, all that matter now
Just got a nosebleed
Character building time for nobbers
Oh yeah easily.
Thanks. Having a ring on each middlefinger, knowing my son is all set and on fire helps.
They traded Nene. Jesus christ. Just let the guy play out his contract. I'm fuming.
You're next.
I found a new GOAT formula someone had created specifically for the game, and suddenly we've got Cafites in #1, #2, #3, #4, #17, #41, #54, #66, #67 and #94.
weetee is the 94th best player of all time.
weetee is the 94th best player of all time.
((champ *2 + finalsMvp *3 + mvp *3 + dpoy *3 + smoy + mip + roy /2) /10) + ((allLeague1 *0.8 + allLeague2 *0.65 + allLeague3 *0.5) + (allDefensive1 *0.8 + allDefensive2 *0.65 + allDefensive3 *0.5)) + (allStar /10 + allStarMvp + allRookie /0.5 + numSeasons /10 + (gp /1000 + gs /1000)) + ((per /20 + perPlayoffs /20 + ewa /100 + ewaPeak /10 + ewaPlayoffs /10) + ((ortg - drtg) /10) + ((ortgPlayoffs - drtgPlayoffs) /10) + (vorp /100 + vorpPeak /10 + vorpPlayoffs /100) + ((obpm + dbpm) /10) + ((obpmPlayoffs + dbpmPlayoffs) /10) + ((obpmPeak + dbpmPeak) /10) + (pm /10000 + pmPlayoffs /1000)) - (((tpa - tp) /10000) + ((tpaPlayoffs - tpPlayoffs) /10000) + ((fga - fg) /10000) + ((fgaPlayoffs - fgPlayoffs) /10000)) + ((ptsPeak + astPeak + (orbPeak + drbPeak) + stlPeak + blkPeak) /1000)
Top-4?? Is that only counting 1996 onwards? What about Kareem and Wilt? I'm assuming MJ was hampered by us starting.
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Am I above or below MJ and LeBron?
You'd better be above as we are shite.
Yes, but not in that order.
It's counting everything, but this formula probably kills Wilt since it uses stuff like VORP, which I guess didn't exist back then. Kareem loses like 4-5 seasons of advanced stats. But he was an uncatchable #1 with my old formula. Wilt is still #22, mind. Kareem is #5. Kevin Durant is #9, so he's coming for you guys.
Below both. MJ is #6, LeBron is #58.
Actually, I missed a few Cafites since I turn off the watch list thing once you retire. So we also have Cafites in #19, #25, #73.