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Johnny Dangerously. You fargin' baskets.
Wonder Woman: It's a bit shit isn't it? CG is horrendous, fighting unexciting. Pine and his guys were disinteresting and the villain was boring. The acting from the Nazi and mask girl was weird at times. Like they were portraying villains in a children's play.
So many unneccessary things and a plot so unremarkable that I can barely remember what it was about having just finished the movie.
Only thing decent about the movie was Gal Gadot which is something the DC people can take away from it but it still won't save them from churning out mediocre movies.
2/5
2/5 for Wonder Woman is generous. It’s absolute garbage. Manages to combine being over-blown with exquisitely boring in a way that not even Transformers can match. One of the worst superhero movies ever. The positive reception is got is baffling.
Sully - Watched it over the weekend and was pretty underwhelmed by it. I suppose realistically it was an incident that happened shortly after take off and concluded not long after so its hard to wring much suspense out of that specific situation but when your lead character is such a wet blanket it leaves very little to hang a narrative on. It managed to make a miraculous escape seem pedestrian. 4/10
Re: Wonder Woman. It's not being compared in a vacuum. It's up against the rubbish DCEU has put out. The faults are overlooked then.
FOr which category though. I'll remind you that Pearl Harbor won an Oscar. Also, Suicide Squad.Nah, haven't you heard they're campaigning for the movie to be nominated for an Oscar or some shit
This is exactly how Nazi Germany started. And ended.Just watched the German/Swedish movie Mein Kampf/Den blodiga Tiden. The movie is made up entirely of stock footage, mostly from DDR archives and basically shows Hitler‘s rise to power, the historical background and reason for him being able to do so and shows the war itself and also the Holocaust and the Warsaw Ghetto.
At points, the movie even shows fragments from Nazi Propaganda like the Wochenschau. The authentic footage is then contradicted, or set into historical context by a very calm narrator, who shows almost no emotion.
The movie doesn’t really show anything most people don‘t know already. We all know how the war started and developed and then finally ended. But the way these images and videos are put together is uniquely intense and haunting. The effect the movie had on the audience was palpable throughout the whole two hours.
This is the best documentary I‘ve seen about the third Reich yet and I think it‘s one of those movies you have to see if you ever have the chance to do so. I strongly recommend it. An almost magical piece of art and an incredible attempt to make sure what has happened may never be forgotten, so we can make sure it‘ll never happen again.
Actually that's probably why it managed a 2 out of 5 for me because I at least liked Wonder Woman herself but everything around her was boring or bad. She's at least better than Superman but the movie still killed the last amount of interest I had in DC. Snyder and everyone he has hired really need to be ditched asap.Re: Wonder Woman. It's not being compared in a vacuum. It's up against the rubbish DCEU has put out. The faults are overlooked then.
I really don't get who thought that this was going to be a good crime flick. You have the story of the Kray brothers which in itself is fantastic movie material and this is the end product? Crime movies today are so mediocre, the crime genre peaked in the 90s.I watched Legend (2015) today. Worth watching for Tom Hardy being great x2, but it's really not that interesting of a film.
Does the narration work? There was a 9/11 long documentary that was just spliced live footage through the timeline. Brilliantly done, kind of like Senna, but can't remember it's name.Just watched the German/Swedish movie Mein Kampf/Den blodiga Tiden. The movie is made up entirely of stock footage, mostly from DDR archives and basically shows Hitler‘s rise to power, the historical background and reason for him being able to do so and shows the war itself and also the Holocaust and the Warsaw Ghetto.
At points, the movie even shows fragments from Nazi Propaganda like the Wochenschau. The authentic footage is then contradicted, or set into historical context by a very calm narrator, who shows almost no emotion.
The movie doesn’t really show anything most people don‘t know already. We all know how the war started and developed and then finally ended. But the way these images and videos are put together is uniquely intense and haunting. The effect the movie had on the audience was palpable throughout the whole two hours.
This is the best documentary I‘ve seen about the third Reich yet and I think it‘s one of those movies you have to see if you ever have the chance to do so. I strongly recommend it. An almost magical piece of art and an incredible attempt to make sure what has happened may never be forgotten, so we can make sure it‘ll never happen again.
Yes, to great effect actually. It shifts the focus and attention to the pictures. There is no emotional escape.Does the narration work? There was a 9/11 long documentary that was just spliced live footage through the timeline. Brilliantly done, kind of like Senna, but can't remember it's name.
I tried to watch Triumph of the Will a while back, but my word it's heavy going.
I realized I wasn't part of the target demographic for Wonder Woman, but I thought, " it's gotten great reviews, so it should at least deliver some well-crafted fun."
Boy, was I wrong! The movie cost north of 150 million, so they might at least have sprung for sufficient film-making talent to give us something better than this naive, ho-hum, stuff.
The leading lady isn't much of an actress, but she fits the role perfectly, so that's not the problem. The problem is that the film has no creative impulses beyond telling a simple, linear story beginning at A and finishing at Z, with a predictable landing on every letter in between.
It's as if the last forty years hadn't happened. The first modern comic book adaptation was Christopher Reeve's Superman, and it was already more inventive in bringing a super-powered character to the screen.
You can see what the film's intentions are. It's aimed squarely at a female audience, with its sympathetic heroine and a strong emphasis on relationships. But why did it have to be so dull?
The early meeting scenes in WW show our Amazon rendered literally speachless by the sight of the hunk's cock before going to mush when hunk complements her. Add WW's wide eyed naivity and constant nagging for the hunk (steve! Steve? Steve, Steve...Steve!!!) it all seemed very regressive to me and not in anyway mitigated by her kicking the crap out of everyone. Also the most self-made, accomplished woman in the film was a scheming, hideously disfigured, toxic not nazi freakshow - who was also weak to the hunky charms of the hunk.
I think Moana and WW are in many ways different renditions of the same film. Both depict sheltered islander's journeying to self discovery, womanhood and female heroism. The main difference is that one is a simplistic 2d cartoon for adhd children and stunted adults, and the other is Moana ho! ho! ho!
Cheers, sounds interesting. That documentary I referred to was 9/11: 102 Minutes that Changed America. Superb piece of film-making.Yes, to great effect actually. It shifts the focus and attention to the pictures. There is no emotional escape.
Sounds good. And it's on Youtube, so I might check it out soon. Thanks for the tipp.Cheers, sounds interesting. That documentary I referred to was 9/11: 102 Minutes that Changed America. Superb piece of film-making.
It is fantastic and somewhat harrowing. feck me, can't believe how long ago it was now. The wife has always been pissed that that is how I remember her birthday, hers is 12th September.Sounds good. And it's on Youtube, so I might check it out soon. Thanks for the tipp.
I don't think she had that accent in the FF moviesOi oi! Don’t drag Moana into this discussion. That’s actually a decent movie.
Re WW the earliest hint that this was an absolute cocking train wreck was when you realised that they’d hired an actress so incapable of actual acting that they gave every other Amazon a thick Israeli accent to hide her inability to pretend to be not Israeli. A new low for Hollywood, surely?
I'm jealous you got to watch them for the first time. Just don't go watching any of the other ones. Awful films.I just watched Terminator 2 for the first time. An incredible film - easily one of my favourites of all time now. I loved the 1st (which I watched for the 1st time about a couple of weeks ago) but this was better.
If I had waited one more day then, going from the opening narration, I'd have seen it for the 1st time on the specific date mentioned which would've been cool as it'd have been completely unintentional.
I don't think she had that accent in the FF movies
I just watched Terminator 2 for the first time. An incredible film - easily one of my favourites of all time now. I loved the 1st (which I watched for the 1st time about a couple of weeks ago) but this was better.
If I had waited one more day then, going from the opening narration, I'd have seen it for the 1st time on the specific date mentioned which would've been cool as it'd have been completely unintentional.
Anyway, I agree with @Pogue Mahone , she's a pretty rubbish actress, that gets praised to hell and back because everyone's so desperate for a strong female lead comic book character... which we'd probably already have if they just did a Black Widow movie (and made sure it was made by an actual competent filmmaker, not Luc Besson)
With two Avatar sequels shooting back-to-back and a Terminator franchise to reboot, James Cameron doesn't have a lot of free time. And yet, the acclaimed director wasn't too busy to double down on controversial comments he made in August, in which he called Wonder Woman "a step backwards" and said the hero, played by Gal Gadot, was "an objectified icon."
At the time, Cameron cited Linda Hamilton's Terminator character, Sarah Connor, as the ideal female protagonist, since she was not a "beauty icon." Wonder Woman director Patty Jenkins responded to Cameron via Twitter, arguing that his "inability to understand what Wonder Woman is, or stands for, to women all over the world" was "unsurprising," since "he is not a woman." Moreover, Jenkins said, "There is no right and wrong kind of powerful woman."
In a wide-ranging interview with The Hollywood Reporter published Wednesday, Cameron said he will continue to "stand by" his original comments. Referring to Gadot, he said, "I mean, she was Miss Israel, and she was wearing a kind of bustier costume that was very form-fitting. She's absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. To me, that's not breaking ground. They had Raquel Welch doing stuff like that in the '60s. It was all in a context of talking about why Sarah Connor—what Linda created in 1991—was, if not ahead of its time, at least a breakthrough in its time. I don't think it was really ahead of its time because we're still not [giving women these types of roles]."
Cameron acknowledged that Hamilton "looked great." But unlike Gadot's Wonder Woman, he argued, "She just wasn't treated as a sex object. There was nothing sexual about her character."
Instead, Cameron insisted that Sarah Connor's "crazy and "complicated" appeal was about "angst," "determination" and "will." Unlike other female leads, he said, she "wasn't there to be liked or ogled," as she was central to the story. "The audience loved her by the end of the film."
"So as much as I applaud Patty directing the film and Hollywood, uh, 'letting' a woman direct a major action franchise, I didn't think there was anything groundbreaking in Wonder Woman. I thought it was a good film. Period," he said. "I was certainly shocked that [my comment] was a controversial statement. It was pretty obvious in my mind. I just think Hollywood doesn't get it about women in commercial franchises. Drama, they've got that cracked, but the second they start to make a big commercial action film, they think they have to appeal to 18-year-old males or 14-year-old males, whatever it is. Look, it was probably a little bit of a simplistic remark on my part, and I'm not walking it back, but I will add a little detail to it, which is: I like the fact that, sexually, she had the upper hand with the male character, which I thought was fun."
Jenkins has not yet responded to Cameron's latest comments.
By everyone I presume you mean the liberal, chattering classes. No one in my social circle is desperate for any such thing!