Film The Redcafe Movie review thread

Inherent Vice was sort of a poor mans Big Lebowski, which is no shame at all. I was pretty drunk when I watched it so I don't really remember much about it.

I watched it 'intoxicated' and most of it again sober. Makes no difference. I rather think the plot is superfluous to the characters.
 
Inherent Vice had too much bollocks in it to be really amazing (basically everything with Owen Wilson or the GF) but it had some fantastically fun moments, and Phoenix is brilliant. If it had stayed at the height of it's peaks all the way it would've been a classic, but it dragged and meandered and (ironically) indulged itself too often. It's easily about half an hour too long too.
All films should be 90 mins long, just like all albums should have 8 songs if I had my way, but it didn't drag for me. I feel like I need to see it at least once more to feel confident in saying anything outside of empty hyperbole, but the only dislike I had was Joanna Newsom's annoying voice narrating, which took me out of it a couple of times. Seemed a weird choice to have a voice that distinctive for an adaptation with such a strong narrative voice itself.

It didn't feel at all indulgent in a bad way to me, in the same way the Big Lebowski didn't. With constantly stoned protagonists, the tone is just too irreverent. I feel the way you're forced to watch it with the story just washing over you thanks to the pace at which new characters & ideas are introduced, there's just always something to laugh at. Any minor thing I didn't like was quickly forgotten because I was too busy laughing at the next scene. But so much of it felt spot on to me. There were so many perfectly composed shots (& in such different ways, to capture the different settings - i.e. the Topanga commune type scene where he meets Coy, compared to the pool party scene at Wolfmann's house with his wife).

I love Lebowski & it maybe has more laughs, but Inherent Vice felt on another level to me. It's an even bigger trip (I love the plotting of his stages on his notepad). I've only read two other Pynchon, but it just seemed to nail that way in which you are just bombarded with all these characters & ideas, yet through the hazy & seemingly nonsensical way they're presented, each one feels fully realised. The tone lets you laugh throughout (and at least for me carried the story along at the pace that was needed not to get boring), but it covers so many themes of that transition into the 70s. Each character feels like it could be a separate film, yet seen through the eyes that Joaquin Phoenix character, it all just works together. I loved it. Now for me to watch it again in the cold light of day & hate it.
 
Wouldn't you guys be better off waiting to see a film like Inherent Vice at the cinema, or at least a good digital copy? Never going to have the same impact with a non-HD torrent.
 
Wouldn't you guys be better off waiting to see a film like Inherent Vice at the cinema, or at least a good digital copy? Never going to have the same impact with a non-HD torrent.

This isn't a Blockbuster tbf....the quality only adds to the satisfaction not necessarily the overall quality of the actual film. Of course preference for me would always be the blu release or hitting the cinema, but I'm fine with DVD quality. I won't and haven't watched cams or anything like that for years, even if some do find the occasional release of watchable standard.
 
Although I go cinema every so often, it just really pisses me off. They charge so much for tickets and snacks, then you sit down and are greeted to an age of adverts and trailers, then you have so many idiots talking during the film and not being able to whisper so you can hear the entirety of the stupid conversation, you have people constantly standing up and blocking your view, there's also always teenagers making stupid comments throughout the film....
 
This isn't a Blockbuster tbf....the quality only adds to the satisfaction not necessarily the overall quality of the actual film. Of course preference for me would always be the blu release or hitting the cinema, but I'm fine with DVD quality. I won't and haven't watched cams or anything like that for years, even if some do find the occasional release of watchable standard.
Naaaaah mate. Films that look as good as this have to be seen on a big screen:
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Although I go cinema every so often, it just really pisses me off. They charge so much for tickets and snacks, then you sit down and are greeted to an age of adverts and trailers, then you have so many idiots talking during the film and not being able to whisper so you can hear the entirety of the stupid conversation, you have people constantly standing up and blocking your view, there's also always teenagers making stupid comments throughout the film....

Honestly people make these same complaint about cinemas all the time, and I rarely have these problems, especially people talking.
 
I agree with all those saying more movies should be watched in the cinema when possible as that is how they were intended to be seen in 99.9% of the time, however I completely agree that price point is a large issue. I can't believe however that people are that badly behaved in cinema screenings as I've always been prepared to tell people to shut up or sit down(or both) if I have to (but have never had to).

Films like Gravity for example have no real point to viewing outside of a cinema as the whole concept is built around 3D and immersion in that experience however their are times when home viewing does actually work better than cinema because the whole spectacle around a film is removed and you can just appreciate or not appreciate the way its been put together on a narrative basis. Godzilla for example I saw in cinema and at home and I preferred at home as I could grasp a lot of the subtext that I missed first time around in the cinema.

I guess it come down to personal choice but I'll be waiting for Inherent Vice in cinema before making up my mind. The spectacle of big screen Cinema is not to be underestimated.
 
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You do get a lot of chavs at the cinema. Idiots checking their mobiles every two minutes, lighting up the place, people talking, making generally immature unwitty loud comments, eating loudly etc...After some bloke had his stinking bare feet up in the cinema on TCR, I started to wonder why I bother paying so much. I actually used to have a shit summer job at the cinema and the patrons are generally filthy pigs.
It's not like we are watching films on piddly old TVs any more, most people have big HD TVs or betters these days, so dunno how much you lose really.
 
The price of going cinema and getting snacks is ridiculous these days.

Odeon have even introduced a policy of confiscating any food your bring in that isn't purhased on site.

Also,

Exodus-3/10. Just everything about it is so dire apart from the CGI of the landscapes etc
Have a friend thats a student or a friend who can get cheap tickets from work, bring a woman with you or a back pack or big pockets so you can get food from tesco.
 
The price of going cinema and getting snacks is ridiculous these days.

Odeon have even introduced a policy of confiscating any food your bring in that isn't purhased on site.

Also,

Exodus-3/10. Just everything about it is so dire apart from the CGI of the landscapes etc
Seriously? I had a summer job at UCI back in c1998. No way we would busted people's balls asking to search people's bags for minimum wage.
 
Feck, that's a bit over the top. Don't expect a fully body (including cavity) search when I go and watch a film.
 
Wouldn't you guys be better off waiting to see a film like Inherent Vice at the cinema, or at least a good digital copy? Never going to have the same impact with a non-HD torrent.

Personally I'll do both.

I watched 'What we do in the Shadows' at the local indie on Friday night despite there being a blu ray copy available.
 
Birdman

A very actory film about acting...and possible a guy with mental health issues. It reminded me quite a bit of Synechdoche New York which is no bad thing. Ed Norton was excellent. Worth a watch.
 
I must be privileged, cos it doesn't cost me too much to go to the pictures (I pay 18€ per month and I can go see as many films as I want in a variety of theaters in Paris) and the main cinema I go to is very civilized, people don't speak during films, don't use their mobiles... There's one cinema I know in Paris where all the chavs go and that's the only bad cinema experience I've had, but overall I couldn't imagine not seeing most films I go to see at the pictures. You lose quite a bit even with the modern tech (unless you have a proper cinema room in your mansion).
 
I can live with most things that people do in the cinema, but I hate it when some cnut kicks my seat from behind. I know I shouldn't obsess about it, but I always do and it always takes me out of the moment.

I tend not to go to the cinema these days, but when I do I prefer to sit on the very back row. That probably detracts a bit from the spectacle, but still...
 
I must be privileged, cos it doesn't cost me too much to go to the pictures (I pay 18€ per month and I can go see as many films as I want in a variety of theaters in Paris) and the main cinema I go to is very civilized, people don't speak during films, don't use their mobiles... There's one cinema I know in Paris where all the chavs go and that's the only bad cinema experience I've had, but overall I couldn't imagine not seeing most films I go to see at the pictures. You lose quite a bit even with the modern tech (unless you have a proper cinema room in your mansion).

Well the multiplexes here are soulless overpriced places but there are still some good independent ones around.

If you live near one the Picturehouse cinemas are always nice too.

http://www.picturehouses.co.uk/
 
I avoid a lot of these problems by just sitting in 5th row or somewhere around.

Everyone wants to sit at the back, but for me the main attraction of the cinema is the big screen, so I sit just far enough to not need to turn my head.
 
With the invention of the Cineworld Unlimited card - if you live near a Cineworld, it's well worth going all the time.
 
Golden Globes 2015 with winners list.

A couple of surprises for me: I'm a tad disappointed Linklater won best director even though I really enjoyed Boyhood, I thought from a pure directing point of view, Gone Girl or Grand Budapest Hotel were worthier (and I haven't seen Birdman). Also surprised True Detective left with empty hands, McConaughey especially. BB Thornton must be exceptional in Fargo.
 
Honestly people make these same complaint about cinemas all the time, and I rarely have these problems, especially people talking.

Yeah I've never had much of an issue with people talking in the UK but in Malta it's honestly ridiculous. I saw Interstella here in a packed out cinema and it was non-stop talking, I had to move to the front row.
 
I must be privileged, cos it doesn't cost me too much to go to the pictures (I pay 18€ per month and I can go see as many films as I want in a variety of theaters in Paris) and the main cinema I go to is very civilized, people don't speak during films, don't use their mobiles... There's one cinema I know in Paris where all the chavs go and that's the only bad cinema experience I've had, but overall I couldn't imagine not seeing most films I go to see at the pictures. You lose quite a bit even with the modern tech (unless you have a proper cinema room in your mansion).
I went to the cinema under Les Halles to see Under the Skin and Lucy and it smelled like shit in the cinema and I can only blame Luc Besson for some of that.
 
I went to the cinema under Les Halles to see Under the Skin and Lucy and it smelled like shit in the cinema and I can only blame Luc Besson for some of that.
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That was the cinema I'm talking about! (ie 'my worst experience')

There's actually two cinemas under Les Halles, one called "UGC Ciné cité Les Halles", the other "UGC Orient Express", do you remember which one it was?
 
Golden Globes 2015 with winners list.

A couple of surprises for me: I'm a tad disappointed Linklater won best director even though I really enjoyed Boyhood, I thought from a pure directing point of view, Gone Girl or Grand Budapest Hotel were worthier (and I haven't seen Birdman). Also surprised True Detective left with empty hands, McConaughey especially. BB Thornton must be exceptional in Fargo.
What a week year.

I'm gonna watch Leviathan to see if it can hold a candle to Ida.
 
There's quite a few nominated (Birdman, Imitation game, Foxcatcher, The theory of everything for films, Fargo or Silicon Valley for TV) that I haven't seen yet, but I tend to believe people say 'it's a weak year' every year! :D
 
Golden Globes 2015 with winners list.

A couple of surprises for me: I'm a tad disappointed Linklater won best director even though I really enjoyed Boyhood, I thought from a pure directing point of view, Gone Girl or Grand Budapest Hotel were worthier

What is it about this film that people think was remotely award worthy? It's fecking WILD THINGS!!!

I agree about Linklater and Thormton though. Boyhood was an interesting experiment that yeilded an avagerge film. But I suppose from a directorial stand point, the mere logistics merit respect. And Thornton does far less "acting" than McConaughey. He's just himself in a dodgy wig. Which is cool and everything, but not really award worthy.
 
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There's quite a few nominated (Birdman, Imitation game, Foxcatcher, The theory of everything for films, Fargo or Silicon Valley for TV) that I haven't seen yet, but I tend to believe people say 'it's a weak year' every year! :D
Most of them strike me as bland biopics. I watched a few Fargo episodes but got bored of it after a while.

The constant love for crap like Downtown Abbey and neglect of Mad Men makes the TV awards pretty void, so it's no suprise really that True Detective got nothing.
 
What is it about this film that people think was remotely award worthy? It's fecking WILD THINGS!!!

I agree about Linklater though, Boyhood was an interesting experiment that yeilded an avagerge film. But I suppose from a directorial stand point, the mere logistics merit respect.
I have no idea why you're obsessed with Wild Things! :lol:

I enjoyed Gone Girl, don't think it was amazing or anything or the best film ever like @Cina thinks, but it was an overall solid film for me, with good performances. I do feel it was really well directed though, but I'm a sucker for Fincher, so maybe not too objective.
 
I have no idea why you're obsessed with Wild Things! :lol:

I enjoyed Gone Girl, don't think it was amazing or anything or the best film ever like @Cina thinks, but it was an overall solid film for me, with good performances. I do feel it was really well directed though, but I'm a sucker for Fincher, so maybe not too objective.
It was ridiculous, really, really ridiculous.
 
Most of them strike me as bland biopics. I watched a few Fargo episodes but got bored of it after a while.

The constant love for crap like Downtown Abbey and neglect of Mad Men makes the TV awards pretty void, so it's no suprise really that True Detective got nothing.
I guess as the next series is the final hurrah, they'll get a few for the 2015 awards? They have won quite a few awards throughout the years, haven't they?

True Detective I'm surprised about, especially for Matthew McConaughey but then again, BB Thornton is a great actor so I should check out Fargo.

Also saw Silicon Valley was nominated somewhere in there, it sounds similar to Halt & Catch Fire (that I enjoyed), wonder if it's worth watching.
 
I have no idea why you're obsessed with Wild Things! :lol:

Because a) It's brilliant, and b) it's exactly the same kind of nonsense pulp as Gone Girl, but not shot entirely in moody blue tones whilst taking itself way too seriously.

It's like Shutter Island. Fun for what it is, but never allowed to be what it is 'cos a fecking auteur directed it.
 
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Because a) It's brilliant, and b) it's exactly the same kind of nonsense pulp as Gone Girl, but not shot entirely in moody blue tones whilst taking itself way too seriously.

It's like Shutter Island. Fun for what it is, but never allowed to be what it is 'cos a fecking auteur directed it.

Wild Things! I haven't watched it for years. Has it aged well?

Bill Murray, Kevin Bacon, Lesbians, plot twists. That film had everything!