Scandi Red
Hates Music.
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The music is mostly that of Peter Seeger, Joan Baez and Woody Guthrie which I’ve always loved.I’ve never really been a fan of that era of music anyway, and have listened to Patti Smith and Dylan et al in the spirit of doing my homework or eating my vegetables. A movie like this should be able to convince a non-fan that they are really missing out. Doesn’t sound like it does. Mangold’s Johnny Cash film basically also failed this test. Preaching to the converted. Both seem to be comprised of tableaux that would be recognizable to big fans of the artists but not super compelling to the unwashed masses.
The music is mostly that of Peter Seeger, Joan Baez and Woody Guthrie which I’ve always loved.
On the surface it’s a very by the numbers music biopic but imo it’s best when seeing Dylan as an empty vampire. A man without beliefs or ideas who steals the artistic talents of others in order to survive. A monster who destroyed collective struggle in favour of individualism.
There’s also a funny Austin Powers reference.
I'd say the movie actually does a pretty good job in this regard. I have never liked Dylan, but now I am at least semi interested in digging a bit deeper. What it doesn't do is portray him as a particularly sympathetic person, but then again it doesn't really try to do so.
Wolf Man
New Leigh Whannell horror starring Christopher Abbott. The first half was quite good in building tension but as soon as the shit hit the fan it got boring incredibly fast which was a shame. There's some heavy handed themes around parenting and the creature designs are a little underwhelming. I think this had potential to be a lot better than it was.
I skimmed your post and saw this as "an empty vagina", and that also works well to describe early Dylan.The music is mostly that of Peter Seeger, Joan Baez and Woody Guthrie which I’ve always loved.
On the surface it’s a very by the numbers music biopic but imo it’s best when seeing Dylan as an empty vampire. A man without beliefs or ideas who steals the artistic talents of others in order to survive. A monster who destroyed collective struggle in favour of individualism.
There’s also a funny Austin Powers reference.
I'd say the movie actually does a pretty good job in this regard. I have never liked Dylan, but now I am at least semi interested in digging a bit deeper. What it doesn't do is portray him as a particularly sympathetic person, but then again it doesn't really try to do so.
Have you seen the Scorcese documentary? That singlehandedly turned me into a fan.![]()
This movie is on Amazon for free. I watched it and felt some mild curiosity about Dylan, and so listened to some of his early records. He's funny and sardonic in this documentary. I do like some of his albums: Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde On Blonde, Blood On The Tracks - but I can't usually listen to an album of his from front to back. Couple songs here and there, sure.
Good, it should stay that way. It'll hurt your eyes and your brain.Nah, doesn't really seem that appealing.
You don’t like the penis to vagina song?Good, it should stay that way. It'll hurt your eyes and your brain.
I’m sure James Mangold is a big fan but the film has a strange view on Dylan. There’s the asshole Bob stuff which is great but it’s also pretty clear about Dylan lack of political stances(Which are seeming mostly shaped by shallow tv news segments). He isn’t portrayed as much of a deep thinker. More an artist who drifting into important historical moments.Jaysus. Don’t know how you got that from it? He comes across as a bit of a monster in his personal life, sure, but there’s no implication he lacks talent or is derivative. If anything he’s given credit for moving the scene on from relentless covers of classic songs to original songwriting.
Side note. I’ve never been a fan of his music but this did make me listen with fresh ears. And some of it is good stuff.
I worked as an extra, on the set of Interstellar, and during the set-up, when all the other actors had gone off to their trailers, and their stand-ins were sitting in place so the cinematographer could get the shots right, Lithgow stayed on the bleachers with us, in the blazing hot sun, holding a parasol for the two stand-in kids, and keeping them company the whole time! He could have gone off to his trailer, rehydrated, put on some sunscreen, and whatnot, and none of us would have judged him if he had. But he knew those kids were bored and uncomfortable, so he stuck around. Class act!
Watch the trailer: they show all the good parts, and you get whatever their vibe was, all without having to endure it. If someone did a super cut of the good parts it would basically be that trailer.You don’t like the penis to vagina song?
(I haven’t actually seen it, it sounds like total trash. )
I’m sure James Mangold is a big fan but the film has a strange view on Dylan. There’s the asshole Bob stuff which is great but it’s also pretty clear about Dylan lack of political stances(Which are seeming mostly shaped by shallow tv news segments). He isn’t portrayed as much of a deep thinker. More an artist who drifting into important historical moments.
The horror elements are down to how much someone hates Bob Dylan and well I’m a hater. Throughout the film Dylan only see people as objects to be used for his creativity(A bit like spinning plates). Plus he gives a televised speech about how his eyes can essentially pierce the soul of any artists and copy their style.
Although the most interesting section was the conflict towards the end with Dylan pushing forward the folk scene but also at the same time moving away from the collective struggle to detached individualism. Mangold does a decent job at showing both sides with the folk activists coming across as snobbish but also during the Pete Seeger speech about spoons Dylan is dressed as a clown. The ending credits ultimately leaves it up to the audience to decide.
Imo Bob Dylan evil talent is writing songs that both Pete Seeger and music executives can love.
decision to leave - feck, what a movie. perfection from start to finish. 10/10.
Tbh I imagine if I told the director my take on his film he would instantly call security!That’s an interesting take. And I’ll admit a lot that must have gone over my head!
The songs are fun and I’ve listen to plenty of Dylan covers. This is a very backhanded compliment but Dylan is a great songwriter as his work allows others to input their own meaning.Why a hater though? Even if you attribute the shallowest possible rationale for getting involved, he was an activist. Back when activists forced real change. And he wrote some banging protest songs.
I love this man:
Obligatory wholesome YT comment:
Audiard sits somewhere between 1 and 3.Rating scale out of 10:
10/10 perfect film, a rarity, peak filmmaking
9/10 a great film
8/10 solid entry, maybe not my genre, maybe not super original but very very good
7/10 fell short, disappointing
6/10 not a total waste of time, but close
5/10 meh.
4/10 piece of shit
3/10 filmmakers are taking the piss
2/10 filmmakers are cnuts
1/10 filmmakers better fecking watch their backs
Do you get a kick out of watching shite or somethingDevon
After their daughter vanished from an asylum, Devon's parents engage five explorers to investigate the abandoned site years later via cryptic website, unaware of the sinister one-way journey and terrifying deadly experience awaiting them.
OMG this is a shocking film, it was mostly dark found footage and lost of screaming.
The twist at the end
Its gets a 2.6/10 on imdb which is generous.
1/10
I saw The Brutalist at the weekend
You’re right. The article is pure wish casting which is the worst type of criticism. Although I’m somewhat sympathetic because it’s called The Brutalist and the marketing has been happy to play into that. We needed more town meetings and shots of machinery!I just went through that Guardian article panning it, and thought it was a bit strange - its main gripe seems to be that it's evidently inspired by a true historical figure (Marcel Breuer) and that it takes too many liberties and is historically incorrect. But the film is deeply fiction, so I'm not sure how that really holds up? That he might have been inspired by Breuer is one thing, but Corbet clearly wanted to tell another story, considering his Laszlo Toth went to a concentration camp, emigrated after the war, and had a very different trajectory. I feel it goes back to that projection issue, where critics are reviewing the film they would have liked to see rather than the one they're seeing.
Oh agree that “I find our conversations intellectually stimulating" is meant to be taken as sarcastic. Van Buren is a shallow man who wants to buy his way into becoming more appealing but the film never says anything particularly meaningful in its themes to contrast Van Buren hollowness.I don't know where I stand on the whole "it's empty" of the memeable "I find our conversations intellectually stimulating" - I took the latter as more sarcastic than straight-faced considering the film is (for me) about broken promises and the lie that is the American dream, and with that in mind, Harrison van Buren's flattery rings quite hollow. I guess I'd have quite a different feeling about it if I thought it was meant to be taken at face value.
It was great until...The Menu (2022)
Ralph Fiennes is the finest actor of his generation. Nic Hoult and Anya Taylor Johnson are really good. Story is implausible almost Twilight Zone-ish - but enjoyable. Didn’t bother me that there are aircraft hangar-sized holes in this, it’s played more like allegory. Some bits are played more broadly, like a satire, and some are played straight. It’s a comedy after all.
8/10
Leave him alone. He's doing god's work.Do you get a kick out of watching shite or something![]()
What was the most recent good werewolf movie? Dog Soldiers, maybe? Everyone plays it too safe. Did you see the Viking Wolf?Werewolves
Frank Grillo stars in a movie where two scientists are trying to find a cure when a super moon turns people into werewolves. I was hoping for b-movie schlock but it took itself too seriously and it ended up a boring mess. A few good action scenes is all this had. Though I will give it extra points for those Frank Grillo muscles. I wish I had that body 2/10
Wolf Man
This was boring, safe and a bit pointless. Generic plot and zero interesting characters. A shame really as I genuinely liked the director's previous work (Upgrade, Invisible Man). But this was crap. Brownie points for practical effects and decent transformation scenes 4/10
I don't really like Werewolf movies. Think I only enjoyed American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers. Haven't seen the one you mentioned so I'll add to my watchlist. Werewolves Within is meant to be decent but I haven't seen that either.What was the most recent good werewolf movie? Dog Soldiers, maybe? Everyone plays it too safe. Did you see the Viking Wolf?
That’s my point: no one knows how to make a good one, but people turning into vicious wolves and tearing throats out should be a slam dunk.I don't really like Werewolf movies. Think I only enjoyed American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers. Haven't seen the one you mentioned so I'll add to my watchlist. Werewolves Within is meant to be decent but I haven't seen that either.