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I’ve never really been a fan of that era of music anyway, and have listened to Patti Smith and Dylan et al in the spirit of doing my homework or eating my vegetables. A movie like this should be able to convince a non-fan that they are really missing out. Doesn’t sound like it does. Mangold’s Johnny Cash film basically also failed this test. Preaching to the converted. Both seem to be comprised of tableaux that would be recognizable to big fans of the artists but not super compelling to the unwashed masses.
The music is mostly that of Peter Seeger, Joan Baez and Woody Guthrie which I’ve always loved.

On the surface it’s a very by the numbers music biopic but imo it’s best when seeing Dylan as an empty vampire. A man without beliefs or ideas who steals the artistic talents of others in order to survive. A monster who destroyed collective struggle in favour of individualism.

There’s also a funny Austin Powers reference.
 
The music is mostly that of Peter Seeger, Joan Baez and Woody Guthrie which I’ve always loved.

On the surface it’s a very by the numbers music biopic but imo it’s best when seeing Dylan as an empty vampire. A man without beliefs or ideas who steals the artistic talents of others in order to survive. A monster who destroyed collective struggle in favour of individualism.

There’s also a funny Austin Powers reference.

Jaysus. Don’t know how you got that from it? He comes across as a bit of a monster in his personal life, sure, but there’s no implication he lacks talent or is derivative. If anything he’s given credit for moving the scene on from relentless covers of classic songs to original songwriting.

Side note. I’ve never been a fan of his music but this did make me listen with fresh ears. And some of it is good stuff.
 
I started Kinda Pregnant on Netlix, because I like Will Forte and thought maybe the Amy Schumer parts wouldn't be so annoying. I was wrong.
 
Wolf Man

New Leigh Whannell horror starring Christopher Abbott. The first half was quite good in building tension but as soon as the shit hit the fan it got boring incredibly fast which was a shame. There's some heavy handed themes around parenting and the creature designs are a little underwhelming. I think this had potential to be a lot better than it was.

The way they kept switching to the Wolfman's perspective was pretty good. The movie was entertaining if not anything special.
 
The music is mostly that of Peter Seeger, Joan Baez and Woody Guthrie which I’ve always loved.

On the surface it’s a very by the numbers music biopic but imo it’s best when seeing Dylan as an empty vampire. A man without beliefs or ideas who steals the artistic talents of others in order to survive. A monster who destroyed collective struggle in favour of individualism.

There’s also a funny Austin Powers reference.
I skimmed your post and saw this as "an empty vagina", and that also works well to describe early Dylan.
 
I'd say the movie actually does a pretty good job in this regard. I have never liked Dylan, but now I am at least semi interested in digging a bit deeper. What it doesn't do is portray him as a particularly sympathetic person, but then again it doesn't really try to do so.
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This movie is on Amazon for free. I watched it and felt some mild curiosity about Dylan, and so listened to some of his early records. He's funny and sardonic in this documentary. I do like some of his albums: Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde On Blonde, Blood On The Tracks - but I can't usually listen to an album of his from front to back. Couple songs here and there, sure.
 
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This movie is on Amazon for free. I watched it and felt some mild curiosity about Dylan, and so listened to some of his early records. He's funny and sardonic in this documentary. I do like some of his albums: Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde On Blonde, Blood On The Tracks - but I can't usually listen to an album of his from front to back. Couple songs here and there, sure.
Have you seen the Scorcese documentary? That singlehandedly turned me into a fan.
 
Jaysus. Don’t know how you got that from it? He comes across as a bit of a monster in his personal life, sure, but there’s no implication he lacks talent or is derivative. If anything he’s given credit for moving the scene on from relentless covers of classic songs to original songwriting.

Side note. I’ve never been a fan of his music but this did make me listen with fresh ears. And some of it is good stuff.
I’m sure James Mangold is a big fan but the film has a strange view on Dylan. There’s the asshole Bob stuff which is great but it’s also pretty clear about Dylan lack of political stances(Which are seeming mostly shaped by shallow tv news segments). He isn’t portrayed as much of a deep thinker. More an artist who drifting into important historical moments.

The horror elements are down to how much someone hates Bob Dylan and well I’m a hater. Throughout the film Dylan only see people as objects to be used for his creativity(A bit like spinning plates). Plus he gives a televised speech about how his eyes can essentially pierce the soul of any artists and copy their style.

Although the most interesting section was the conflict towards the end with Dylan pushing forward the folk scene but also at the same time moving away from the collective struggle to detached individualism. Mangold does a decent job at showing both sides with the folk activists coming across as snobbish but also during the Pete Seeger speech about spoons Dylan is dressed as a clown. The ending credits ultimately leaves it up to the audience to decide.

Imo Bob Dylan evil talent is writing songs that both Pete Seeger and music executives can love.
 
I love this man:

Obligatory wholesome YT comment:
I worked as an extra, on the set of Interstellar, and during the set-up, when all the other actors had gone off to their trailers, and their stand-ins were sitting in place so the cinematographer could get the shots right, Lithgow stayed on the bleachers with us, in the blazing hot sun, holding a parasol for the two stand-in kids, and keeping them company the whole time! He could have gone off to his trailer, rehydrated, put on some sunscreen, and whatnot, and none of us would have judged him if he had. But he knew those kids were bored and uncomfortable, so he stuck around. Class act!
 
I’m sure James Mangold is a big fan but the film has a strange view on Dylan. There’s the asshole Bob stuff which is great but it’s also pretty clear about Dylan lack of political stances(Which are seeming mostly shaped by shallow tv news segments). He isn’t portrayed as much of a deep thinker. More an artist who drifting into important historical moments.

The horror elements are down to how much someone hates Bob Dylan and well I’m a hater. Throughout the film Dylan only see people as objects to be used for his creativity(A bit like spinning plates). Plus he gives a televised speech about how his eyes can essentially pierce the soul of any artists and copy their style.

Although the most interesting section was the conflict towards the end with Dylan pushing forward the folk scene but also at the same time moving away from the collective struggle to detached individualism. Mangold does a decent job at showing both sides with the folk activists coming across as snobbish but also during the Pete Seeger speech about spoons Dylan is dressed as a clown. The ending credits ultimately leaves it up to the audience to decide.

Imo Bob Dylan evil talent is writing songs that both Pete Seeger and music executives can love.

That’s an interesting take. And I’ll admit a lot that must have gone over my head! Why a hater though? Even if you attribute the shallowest possible rationale for getting involved, he was an activist. Back when activists forced real change. And he wrote some banging protest songs.
 
Humane

In the wake of an environmental collapse that is forcing humanity to shed 20% of its population, a family dinner erupts into chaos when a father's plan to enlist in the government's new euthanasia program goes horribly awry.
It was OK, I liked the idea. And the film kept my interest.
Ending was a bit meh

5/10
 
Survive

A couple celebrates their son's birthday in the middle of the ocean on their boat . A violent storm hits and it brings up hungry creatures from the depths and they fight for their survival.
It had its moments but not many, decent story behind it, but needed more.
The ending well there was none it just ended !

4/10
 
Dead Sea

Stranded in the open sea after a fatal accident, a young woman and her two friends are rescued by a fishing vessel's captain, unaware that the ship harbors a chilling secret.
About has bland as a film can get, OK there is a bit of blood but no real horror, it was a very meh film.

3/10
 
8 Found Dead

Two couples take a weekend getaway in the middle of the desert, only to discover that their Airbnb is already occupied. It's a long and bloody night told from four points-of-view.
Was billed has a Slasher horror, yes there was bodies, yes there was blood , but it was the strangest slasher film I have ever seen.
But it kept we watching and there is an after credits scene, that promises a prequel.
The acting on the whole was nothing special, apart from the old couple, there were really creepy.
I think I will watch the prequel, just to find out why they did what they did.
Give this film a go if you like situational survival horror. Is not a masterpiece but an enjoyable film nonetheless.

6/10
 
Anyone prefer to see Youtube recaps of movies?

Lately i find them satisfying for the movies that arent exciting enough to spent 2 hours in but still wanting to know what it is

Some of them made a good job on the editing and narating making you feel like you watch the express version of the movie itself.
 
Cold Meat.

A driver saves a waitress from her ex. He continues driving but crashes during a blizzard. Now injured and trapped in a ravine, he spots a beast stalking him. With dwindling time he must find a way to survive the cold and the predator.
Good start, twisty middle but a very weak ending
But not a bad watch.

6/10
 
That’s an interesting take. And I’ll admit a lot that must have gone over my head!
Tbh I imagine if I told the director my take on his film he would instantly call security!

Why a hater though? Even if you attribute the shallowest possible rationale for getting involved, he was an activist. Back when activists forced real change. And he wrote some banging protest songs.
The songs are fun and I’ve listen to plenty of Dylan covers. This is a very backhanded compliment but Dylan is a great songwriter as his work allows others to input their own meaning.

The dislike is really more what Dylan represents which is a detachment individualism and the vague American myth. Anyone with any beliefs can be a Dylan fan which doesn’t sit right imo.
 
Devon

After their daughter vanished from an asylum, Devon's parents engage five explorers to investigate the abandoned site years later via cryptic website, unaware of the sinister one-way journey and terrifying deadly experience awaiting them.
OMG this is a shocking film, it was mostly dark found footage and lost of screaming.
The twist at the end :rolleyes:
Its gets a 2.6/10 on imdb which is generous.

1/10
 
The Menu (2022)
Ralph Fiennes is the finest actor of his generation. Nic Hoult and Anya Taylor Johnson are really good. Story is implausible almost Twilight Zone-ish - but enjoyable. Didn’t bother me that there are aircraft hangar-sized holes in this, it’s played more like allegory. Some bits are played more broadly, like a satire, and some are played straight. It’s a comedy after all.
8/10
 
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Rating scale out of 10:
10/10 perfect film, a rarity, peak filmmaking
9/10 a great film
8/10 solid entry, maybe not my genre, maybe not super original but very very good
7/10 fell short, disappointing
6/10 not a total waste of time, but close
5/10 meh.
4/10 piece of shit
3/10 filmmakers are taking the piss
2/10 filmmakers are cnuts
1/10 filmmakers better fecking watch their backs
 
Rating scale out of 10:
10/10 perfect film, a rarity, peak filmmaking
9/10 a great film
8/10 solid entry, maybe not my genre, maybe not super original but very very good
7/10 fell short, disappointing
6/10 not a total waste of time, but close
5/10 meh.
4/10 piece of shit
3/10 filmmakers are taking the piss
2/10 filmmakers are cnuts
1/10 filmmakers better fecking watch their backs
Audiard sits somewhere between 1 and 3.
 
I saw The Brutalist at the weekend, and I think I had a more pleasant experience than yours @Sweet Square (not sure anyone else has posted about it in here). I just went through that Guardian article panning it, and thought it was a bit strange - its main gripe seems to be that it's evidently inspired by a true historical figure (Marcel Breuer) and that it takes too many liberties and is historically incorrect. But the film is deeply fiction, so I'm not sure how that really holds up? That he might have been inspired by Breuer is one thing, but Corbet clearly wanted to tell another story, considering his Laszlo Toth went to a concentration camp, emigrated after the war, and had a very different trajectory. I feel it goes back to that projection issue, where critics are reviewing the film they would have liked to see rather than the one they're seeing.

I didn't think it was pure genius or life-changing in any way, but I felt it got a lot more right than wrong. First of all, I thought it was impressive how nice the runtime was; at no point did I feel bored, and while the pace is overall quite slow, it really moves along nicely, taking its time when it needs to, and pushing through when the story requires it. It also has some truly inspired filmmaking along the way - I don't know much about Corbet, but he and his DP have a great eye for a shot (the arrival in America and the sight of the Statue of Liberty hooks you early on) and know how to create a real atmosphere from an environment (the whole sequence in Carrara is gorgeous and threatening at once). I don't know where I stand on the whole "it's empty" of the memeable "I find our conversations intellectually stimulating" - I took the latter as more sarcastic than straight-faced considering the film is (for me) about broken promises and the lie that is the American dream, and with that in mind, Harrison van Buren's flattery rings quite hollow. I guess I'd have quite a different feeling about it if I thought it was meant to be taken at face value. The hollowness of the film is, for me, fundamental for its overarching theme, and is reflected in Erszébet's description of the US and Laszlo's niece's closing speech at the Biennale (where she mentions the emptiness of the work); and to an extent, that's how I see brutalism - it's functional, serves the purpose it's designed for without artifice or "lies", contrasting with what their life is after their arrival in the US.

My impressions of it are still working in the back of my mind, so I don't have a 100% definitive feeling about it, but I enjoyed it and thought that it was really impressive from a formal perspective.
 
Devon

After their daughter vanished from an asylum, Devon's parents engage five explorers to investigate the abandoned site years later via cryptic website, unaware of the sinister one-way journey and terrifying deadly experience awaiting them.
OMG this is a shocking film, it was mostly dark found footage and lost of screaming.
The twist at the end :rolleyes:
Its gets a 2.6/10 on imdb which is generous.

1/10
Do you get a kick out of watching shite or something :lol:
 
I saw The Brutalist at the weekend
I just went through that Guardian article panning it, and thought it was a bit strange - its main gripe seems to be that it's evidently inspired by a true historical figure (Marcel Breuer) and that it takes too many liberties and is historically incorrect. But the film is deeply fiction, so I'm not sure how that really holds up? That he might have been inspired by Breuer is one thing, but Corbet clearly wanted to tell another story, considering his Laszlo Toth went to a concentration camp, emigrated after the war, and had a very different trajectory. I feel it goes back to that projection issue, where critics are reviewing the film they would have liked to see rather than the one they're seeing.
You’re right. The article is pure wish casting which is the worst type of criticism. Although I’m somewhat sympathetic because it’s called The Brutalist and the marketing has been happy to play into that. We needed more town meetings and shots of machinery!

I listen to the podcast mentioned and their film criticism was shite(They dislike Megalopolis)but I found their views on how the film represents Brutalist history to be useful. That its more interested in the architect rather than the architecture is pretty spot on imo.
I don't know where I stand on the whole "it's empty" of the memeable "I find our conversations intellectually stimulating" - I took the latter as more sarcastic than straight-faced considering the film is (for me) about broken promises and the lie that is the American dream, and with that in mind, Harrison van Buren's flattery rings quite hollow. I guess I'd have quite a different feeling about it if I thought it was meant to be taken at face value.
Oh agree that “I find our conversations intellectually stimulating" is meant to be taken as sarcastic. Van Buren is a shallow man who wants to buy his way into becoming more appealing but the film never says anything particularly meaningful in its themes to contrast Van Buren hollowness.

Laszlo answers in that scene are a bit meh and as is his speech about ugly art. Both enjoyable moments and given our current ironic hell world any director earnestly saying things is a positive but for Colbert that seems to = substance.

Similarly film directing is like creating giant buildings is a decent enough idea but Colbert using brutalist architecture as a way to tell his story about auteurs is shallow and imo a misunderstanding of many brutalist building. Also capitalism metaphorically fecking artists in the ass then becoming literal was silly.

What did you think of the films view on Isreal and Zionism ? It gets across the bigotry of post war white America and how assimilation can at times lead to losing one’s identity(although it’s far too simplistic on both counts). There’s also some good satirical jokes about the creation of Israel and the modern day relationship with the United States(The ending needle drop is great).

But the dinner table debate with the Toth family turns into nothing and Erzsébet overdosing and becoming a Zionist was offensively funny(There wasn’t any need for the the heroin addiction subplot). Like the other themes it’s surface level.

Overall by the end I struggled to see the film as any more in-depth than Van Buren favourite go to quote. Still enjoyable enough and for all its faults it was interesting to think about.
 
The Menu (2022)
Ralph Fiennes is the finest actor of his generation. Nic Hoult and Anya Taylor Johnson are really good. Story is implausible almost Twilight Zone-ish - but enjoyable. Didn’t bother me that there are aircraft hangar-sized holes in this, it’s played more like allegory. Some bits are played more broadly, like a satire, and some are played straight. It’s a comedy after all.
8/10
It was great until...

crinkled chips? Who the feck serves a cheeseburger with fecking crinkled chips. Man was a fraud all along. Serve proper chips and slap in a pot of chilli sauce and garlic mayo ya knobber!
 
Werewolves
Frank Grillo stars in a movie where two scientists are trying to find a cure when a super moon turns people into werewolves. I was hoping for b-movie schlock but it took itself too seriously and it ended up a boring mess. A few good action scenes is all this had. Though I will give it extra points for those Frank Grillo muscles. I wish I had that body 2/10

Wolf Man

This was boring, safe and a bit pointless. Generic plot and zero interesting characters. A shame really as I genuinely liked the director's previous work (Upgrade, Invisible Man). But this was crap. Brownie points for practical effects and decent transformation scenes 4/10
 
Werewolves
Frank Grillo stars in a movie where two scientists are trying to find a cure when a super moon turns people into werewolves. I was hoping for b-movie schlock but it took itself too seriously and it ended up a boring mess. A few good action scenes is all this had. Though I will give it extra points for those Frank Grillo muscles. I wish I had that body 2/10

Wolf Man

This was boring, safe and a bit pointless. Generic plot and zero interesting characters. A shame really as I genuinely liked the director's previous work (Upgrade, Invisible Man). But this was crap. Brownie points for practical effects and decent transformation scenes 4/10
What was the most recent good werewolf movie? Dog Soldiers, maybe? Everyone plays it too safe. Did you see the Viking Wolf?
 
What was the most recent good werewolf movie? Dog Soldiers, maybe? Everyone plays it too safe. Did you see the Viking Wolf?
I don't really like Werewolf movies. Think I only enjoyed American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers. Haven't seen the one you mentioned so I'll add to my watchlist. Werewolves Within is meant to be decent but I haven't seen that either.
 
I don't really like Werewolf movies. Think I only enjoyed American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers. Haven't seen the one you mentioned so I'll add to my watchlist. Werewolves Within is meant to be decent but I haven't seen that either.
That’s my point: no one knows how to make a good one, but people turning into vicious wolves and tearing throats out should be a slam dunk.
 
Wolf with Jack Nicholson was ok.
Watched an older one years ago that was pretty decent think it was called the howling