The Corinthian
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Square jerk surely?When did this thread turn into such a circle jerk?
Square jerk surely?When did this thread turn into such a circle jerk?
Welcome aboard, mice!Controversial: none of the Cornetto trilogy are good films
Paul is the only good film pegg and the fat lad made together and let's be honest Seth Rogan made that movie
Paul's fun!Controversial: none of the Cornetto trilogy are good films
Paul is the only good film pegg and the fat lad made together and let's be honest Seth Rogan made that movie
Not crap no but not parti good either and nowhere near the best comedies of the 00s.Paul's fun!
But no, the cornetto trilogy aren't crap films.
Shaun is pretty funny. Hot Fuzz isn't horrible. World's End is a piece of shit.Not crap no but not parti good either and nowhere near the best comedies of the 00s.
Yes!Shaun is pretty funny. Hot Fuzz isn't horrible. World's End is a piece of shit.
Shaun is pretty funny. Hot Fuzz isn't horrible. World's End is a piece of shit.
No Country For Old Man. The Coen Brothers' 2007 adaptation of the Cormac McCarthy novel. Set in Texas, the slow-burn story is about a guy (Josh Brolin) who founds a briefcase full of cash, a calm psychopath (Javier Bardem) who is looking for him, and a sheriff (Tommy Lee Jones) who is trying to figure out what's going on. (I got round to it, @The Corinthian!)
I saw this almost a decade ago and didn't like it: too slow, too dark, too pointless. I read the book last year though, and I liked that, so I tried the film again. I liked it better this time round, maybe because I could better position everything that's happening. (Although the film's not a puzzle, so not sure what wasn't working for me previously in that regard.) I still don't like the ending though. It's too flat, too little resolution, too little of anything. I know that's partly the point of the whole thing, which is about setting a mood and portraying a feeling rather than telling a story per se. But well, I guess I like my films with a clearer ending.
Other than that, this is amazing from an artistic point of view. It's kind of a minimal film. Slow, quiet, deliberate - but all in good measure. All the shots are right, and the acting is also exactly in tune with everything else. 7/10
Controversial: none of the Cornetto trilogy are good films
Paul is the only good film pegg and the fat lad made together and let's be honest Seth Rogan made that movie
Controversial: none of the Cornetto trilogy are good films
Paul is the only good film pegg and the fat lad made together and let's be honest Seth Rogan made that movie
I enjoyed them all but Shaun Of The Dead is of course by far the best.
Yup I enjoy them all. I like the small Easter eggs between each other and Spaced. They’re all very good comedy flicks.Paul wasn't at all good.
Watch Ponyo with her. It's fantastic, and one of the first I watched with my daughter several years ago.Same. Really liked it as well. It‘s been some years..might watch it with my daughter probably soon. I‘m a bit careful with Ghibli movies and her, as they have proper dark sides to them imo - as real fairy tales should - and can really freak one out. She knows Kiki Toroto and Arietta so far but Laputa is a addition now I think.
Wasn‘t really a fan of Nausicaa when I saw it though. Can‘t remember why any more, just that I was quite disappointed back then.
Thanks. Pretty sure I got the BR somewhere but not so sure I've actually ever watched it. Good call!Watch Ponyo with her. It's fantastic, and one of the first I watched with my daughter several years ago.
Too bad you didn't like it more this time around. I think it's pretty much the perfect film. The direction is sublime, Coen's build tension like no others, the choice of having no music works wonders and Bardem crafts one of the most memorable villains. I used to dislike the ending a bit as well, but with time I've come to the opinion that it fits perfectly overall with what is trying to be said here. I think overall a masterful piece of work, one of the few true classics of the past 20 or so years.No Country For Old Man. The Coen Brothers' 2007 adaptation of the Cormac McCarthy novel. Set in Texas, the slow-burn story is about a guy (Josh Brolin) who founds a briefcase full of cash, a calm psychopath (Javier Bardem) who is looking for him, and a sheriff (Tommy Lee Jones) who is trying to figure out what's going on. (I got round to it, @The Corinthian!)
I saw this almost a decade ago and didn't like it: too slow, too dark, too pointless. I read the book last year though, and I liked that, so I tried the film again. I liked it better this time round, maybe because I could better position everything that's happening. (Although the film's not a puzzle, so not sure what wasn't working for me previously in that regard.) I still don't like the ending though. It's too flat, too little resolution, too little of anything. I know that's partly the point of the whole thing, which is about setting a mood and portraying a feeling rather than telling a story per se. But well, I guess I like my films with a clearer ending.
Other than that, this is amazing from an artistic point of view. It's kind of a minimal film. Slow, quiet, deliberate - but all in good measure. All the shots are right, and the acting is also exactly in tune with everything else. 7/10
I think it was in contention, but I do think not enough people actually saw it to make it to the Academy Awards. It got a lot of nominations at the BAFTAs, but I think their process of selecting the nominees differs a lot from the Academy Awards.Glad to see another glowing review for All of us strangers It should get a lot of love! All 4 actors were incredible in it really. I wonder whether it wasn't released a bit late for awards consideration? Because otherwise, Scott absolutely should have been nominated for best actors, and the 3 others should have received nods for supporting actor/actress.
I like your list mostly for last year I haven't seen Monster or About Dry Grasses, and I wouldn't rate John Wick so high, but otherwise I agree with a lot of it. I also saw Aftersun in Feb 2023 and that was probably my favourite film of last year, and All of us strangers is a 2024 film for me!
It’s a great film, good call.Paris, Texas
My first Wim Wenders' film (Perfect Days is on my list too). The first 2 hours are beautifully shot but the story didn't really captivate me. And then the last 30 minutes happened. That was something else!
There is something oddly "modern" about this 40 year old film? I would not be surprised if a lot of directors got inspired by it.
It’s a great film, good call.
Yes!!! Well said. I’d also add that Mark Buffalo sucked balls in it.Poor Things. Lots to like here. The acting is mostly very good, Emma Stone is great in particular, and it is an interesting concept set in a steampunk universe that works for the Frankestein vibe. It looks beatiful in all respects, the sets, the costumes and the cinematography.
So why did I only like it instead of love it? The fisheye lens thing got a bit old, but I think it was mainly that it had too little to say about feminism, and nothing about socialism which was hinted at/mentioned a couple of times but was then ignored. Given these were the main themes of the book it seems an odd scripting choice imo. This resulted in a very mediocre ending, which left me thinking "So what?". That and the run time of 2hrs 22mins was at least 30 or 40 mins too long. However, I think the worst thing was that there was an air of pretentious smugness about the whole thing. Much like his previous films. I liked it far more than The Lobster or The Killing of a Sacred Deer but for me that is a very low bar. But it was worth watching. 7/10
Paris, Texas
My first Wim Wenders' film (Perfect Days is on my list too). The first 2 hours are beautifully shot but the story didn't really captivate me. And then the last 30 minutes happened. That was something else!
There is something oddly "modern" about this 40 year old film? I would not be surprised if a lot of directors got inspired by it.
The phone booth conversation is one the greatest thing ever. Completely heartbreaking.Paris, Texas
There is something oddly "modern" about this 40 year old film? I would not be surprised if a lot of directors got inspired by it.
Wim Wenders calls this his best work.Watch Until The End of the World next!
I'm about 2/3 of the way through it but am struggling to find a reason to continue.Roadhouse Watched last night. Remake of a film that wasn't great to begun with, but enjoys cult status. Starts with some really shaky cgi fights which kind of tells you what to expect for the rest of the film, but I was actually enjoying it. Not sure why Jake Gyllenhall agreed to this, but he's great as usual and it was enjoyable enough. Until they introduced Conor Mcgregor. He was fecking awful and it went right off the rails when he came into it. Shame, as the setup was good.
Didn't even realise it was based on a book. I take it you've read it?Poor Things. Lots to like here. The acting is mostly very good, Emma Stone is great in particular, and it is an interesting concept set in a steampunk universe that works for the Frankestein vibe. It looks beatiful in all respects, the sets, the costumes and the cinematography.
So why did I only like it instead of love it? The fisheye lens thing got a bit old, but I think it was mainly that it had too little to say about feminism, and nothing about socialism which was hinted at/mentioned a couple of times but was then ignored. Given these were the main themes of the book it seems an odd scripting choice imo. This resulted in a very mediocre ending, which left me thinking "So what?". That and the run time of 2hrs 22mins was at least 30 or 40 mins too long. However, I think the worst thing was that there was an air of pretentious smugness about the whole thing. Much like his previous films. I liked it far more than The Lobster or The Killing of a Sacred Deer but for me that is a very low bar. But it was worth watching. 7/10
Wim Wenders calls this his best work.
Didn't even realise it was based on a book. I take it you've read it?
Yes!!! Well said. I’d also add that Mark Buffalo sucked balls in it.
Thanks, I'll have a nosey.Nope but articles about the original book have been widely written about recently.
Although I think I will read the book now. It sounds very good.
2 articles I can find but not the one I was looking for that examined the book plot and themes in more details.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...ece-male-sex-fantasy-oscar-emma-stone-ruffalo
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...as-cut-from-the-oscar-tipped-film-poor-things
I just looked into that as I also loved Paris, Texas. I see the director's cut (supposedly the superior version) is almost double the length of the theatrical version, and five hours long!Watch Until The End of the World next!
I just looked into that as I also loved Paris, Texas. I see the director's cut (supposedly the superior version) is almost double the length of the theatrical version, and five hours long!
I just looked into that as I also loved Paris, Texas. I see the director's cut (supposedly the superior version) is almost double the length of the theatrical version, and five hours long!
It’s a great film, good call.
Nope but numerous articles about the original book have been written recently which is where my expectation and disappointment comes from.
Although I think I will read the book now. It sounds very good.
2 articles I can find but not the one I was looking for that examined the book plot and themes in more details.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...ece-male-sex-fantasy-oscar-emma-stone-ruffalo
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...as-cut-from-the-oscar-tipped-film-poor-things
I read the book a few weeks back and it’s part novel/diary/map of Glasgow. It’s good. But there’s not that much socialist or feminist stuff. The book is not told from Bella perspective. The sex work is barely mentioned(And it isn’t pro sex work like the film)and the old lady character on the boat isn’t in the book but instead there’s a English racist/imperialist man. I could be wrong but I think there’s more women characters in the film than the book.Thanks, I'll have a nosey.
Nice that must have been some experience. There’s a few films I’m like that with. The experience was so good the first time I almost worried about a rewatch ruining it.Honestly think it might be the film I’ve enjoyed over all others. I was on shrooms when I watched it, to be fair. I’ve never rewatched it as I don’t want to spoil the magic! I think about them staring into those dream recorders every time I’m on a bus or train full of people on their smartphones. So prescient.
We live in interesting times. Never thought I'd see the day when Frankenhooker was talked about reverently, yet here we are. Not disagreeing with your idea that it's the best version, just feels like I'm in an alternate universe where people not only know this movie exists, but also like it.I read the book a few weeks back and it’s part novel/diary/map of Glasgow. It’s good. But there’s not that much socialist or feminist stuff. The book is not told from Bella perspective. The sex work is barely mentioned(And it isn’t pro sex work like the film)and the old lady character on the boat isn’t in the book but instead there’s a English racist/imperialist man. I could be wrong but I think there’s more women characters in the film than the book.
It’s worth reading and it’s got me into Alasdair Grey other work but overall I preferred the structure of the film over the book.
I seen a few people mention the 90’s horror/comedy film Frankenhooker is genuinely the best version of this story.
Nice that must have been some experience. There’s a few films I’m like that with. The experience was so good the first time I almost worried about a rewatch ruining it.
I recently watched another Wenders film called
The American Friend which was incredible but also pretty bleak. Imo Him and Veroheven make the best films about America.
No Country For Old Man. The Coen Brothers' 2007 adaptation of the Cormac McCarthy novel. Set in Texas, the slow-burn story is about a guy (Josh Brolin) who founds a briefcase full of cash, a calm psychopath (Javier Bardem) who is looking for him, and a sheriff (Tommy Lee Jones) who is trying to figure out what's going on. (I got round to it, @The Corinthian!)
I saw this almost a decade ago and didn't like it: too slow, too dark, too pointless. I read the book last year though, and I liked that, so I tried the film again. I liked it better this time round, maybe because I could better position everything that's happening. (Although the film's not a puzzle, so not sure what wasn't working for me previously in that regard.) I still don't like the ending though. It's too flat, too little resolution, too little of anything. I know that's partly the point of the whole thing, which is about setting a mood and portraying a feeling rather than telling a story per se. But well, I guess I like my films with a clearer ending.
Other than that, this is amazing from an artistic point of view. It's kind of a minimal film. Slow, quiet, deliberate - but all in good measure. All the shots are right, and the acting is also exactly in tune with everything else. 7/10
I’m glad you watched it a second time round and enjoyed it more but I agree with pretty much everything CoopersDream has said here. It’s a rare 10/10 movie for me - and a pretty perfect adaption of the book (not saying it’s a faithful adaption but a perfect adaptation from book to screen).Too bad you didn't like it more this time around. I think it's pretty much the perfect film. The direction is sublime, Coen's build tension like no others, the choice of having no music works wonders and Bardem crafts one of the most memorable villains. I used to dislike the ending a bit as well, but with time I've come to the opinion that it fits perfectly overall with what is trying to be said here. I think overall a masterful piece of work, one of the few true classics of the past 20 or so years.