saw a decent Cage flick recently called Dream Scenario
I reckon even @Wibble might not completely hate it
Big call
And I think it has got to the stage where his mere presence is too big an irritation for me.
saw a decent Cage flick recently called Dream Scenario
I reckon even @Wibble might not completely hate it
Live, Laugh, Love etsy moms are about to get their own version of Heat.
It’s going to be incredible.
Yeah it was a good film and Cage was excellent in it.saw a decent Cage flick recently called Dream Scenario
I reckon even @Wibble might not completely hate it
This is right, I could not recommend them, but I do like shitty horror films and yeah once in a while I ifnd a hidden gem, sadly neither of these were that hidden gem.Brother Pauldy and I love watching these shitty horror movies because after 99 awful ones, you stumble across one great one.
Live, Laugh, Love etsy moms are about to get their own version of Heat.
It’s going to be incredible.
I didn't know this film, but put like that, you could say it sounds like a boring version of Forest Gump!It's like, as a pitch, someone says: "there's this immigrant Italian kid who made the Olympic team, competed in Hitler's Olympics, was in a B-24 crew in WWII, got shot down, survived being adrift for 47 days, was sent to a POW camp for two plus years, and came home." Then someone in the room should have said, "Yes, and?"
Forest Gump in a POW camp does sound interesting, not gonna lie.I didn't know this film, but put like that, you could say it sounds like a boring version of Forest Gump!
Oscar incoming.Fat Joe as a therapist, I’m here for it.
I don’t think someone can make this type of film about themselves and not be a massive arsehole in real life.Most trailers arent cringe enough to make me not want it at all but that one def is. It probably doesn't help I have heard too many stories about people I know who worked with JLo and them not being flattering at all.
Only God Forgives was dreadful. Unwatchable.Lift: A 2024 action comedy Heist movie by F. Gary Gray featuring Kevin Hart as a thieving mastermind and Gugu Mbatha-Raw as the Interpol agent who's after but now has to collaborate on a very special heist - which is all complicated by them having had a brief fling in the past.
I like heist movies and action comedies generally, so this was pretty easy to enjoy - but only in a very superficial sort of way. The plot has enormous holes, there are too highly many convenient bits, and the characters are too clichéd to enjoy the film as the light bit of nonsense it intends to be. 2.5/5
Only God Forgives: A 2013 thriller by Nicolas Winding Refn featuring Ryan Gosling most prominently. Set in Bangkok, it's mostly a revenge film, where a whole chain of (often gory) killings is triggered after the brother of Gosling's character murders a teenage prostitute.
This reminded me of Mandy actually, in the way the story is extremely flat and underdeveloped and the film is really all about its style and feel. But while Mandy seems like a joyful labour of love, Only God Forgives is grim and bleak and unpleasant. Refn also made Drive, and this film has basically the exact same quiet, stilted, precise, dramatic style. But while that gave Drive gravitas, Only God Forgives remains a bleak bit of nothing where the stiltedness just feels bizarre. 2/5
Nyad: A 2023 biographical sports drama about long-distance swimmer Diana Nyad and her attempts in the early 2010s to swim from Cuba to Florida, featuring Annette Bening, Jodie Foster, and Rhys Ifans.
Sports dramas are sports dramas: you know what you'll be getting and you like 'm or you don't. I generally do like them, so it worked for me. I am not a great fan of the historical bits that were overlooked in the film (it sells some people short and overlooks some of Nyad's lies - but then her character does face a good bit of criticism, so I guess it's fine); but purely as a film, this worked quite well, and great acting by all three actors mentioned. The film doesn't really have something really elevating it above the pack, but it's really solid. 3/5
Absolutely hated Only God Forgives all those years ago at the cinema. Terrible film.Lift: A 2024 action comedy Heist movie by F. Gary Gray featuring Kevin Hart as a thieving mastermind and Gugu Mbatha-Raw as the Interpol agent who's after but now has to collaborate on a very special heist - which is all complicated by them having had a brief fling in the past.
I like heist movies and action comedies generally, so this was pretty easy to enjoy - but only in a very superficial sort of way. The plot has enormous holes, there are too highly many convenient bits, and the characters are too clichéd to enjoy the film as the light bit of nonsense it intends to be. 2.5/5
Only God Forgives: A 2013 thriller by Nicolas Winding Refn featuring Ryan Gosling most prominently. Set in Bangkok, it's mostly a revenge film, where a whole chain of (often gory) killings is triggered after the brother of Gosling's character murders a teenage prostitute.
This reminded me of Mandy actually, in the way the story is extremely flat and underdeveloped and the film is really all about its style and feel. But while Mandy seems like a joyful labour of love, Only God Forgives is grim and bleak and unpleasant. Refn also made Drive, and this film has basically the exact same quiet, stilted, precise, dramatic style. But while that gave Drive gravitas, Only God Forgives remains a bleak bit of nothing where the stiltedness just feels bizarre. 2/5
Nyad: A 2023 biographical sports drama about long-distance swimmer Diana Nyad and her attempts in the early 2010s to swim from Cuba to Florida, featuring Annette Bening, Jodie Foster, and Rhys Ifans.
Sports dramas are sports dramas: you know what you'll be getting and you like 'm or you don't. I generally do like them, so it worked for me. I am not a great fan of the historical bits that were overlooked in the film (it sells some people short and overlooks some of Nyad's lies - but then her character does face a good bit of criticism, so I guess it's fine); but purely as a film, this worked quite well, and great acting by all three actors mentioned. The film doesn't really have something really elevating it above the pack, but it's really solid. 3/5
Only God Forgives was dreadful. Unwatchable.
I saw some critics gave it full points and that it featured in a list of best films of the decade so far (the 2010s). I just don't get that. Yes, stylistically it's well done, but there has to be a link between style and content. This film was so devoid of meaning and its story so flat and uninteresting (zero character development, no surprises, and so on) that Refn's stylistic approach seems completely inappropriate to me. How critics can think of this as a truly great movie is entirely beyond me.Absolutely hated Only God Forgives all those years ago at the cinema. Terrible film.
Wannabe dickhead filmmakers that aren't able to see that style should serve a story and is (usually) not enough in itself.I saw some critics gave it full points and that it featured in a list of best films of the decade so far (the 2010s). I just don't get that. Yes, stylistically is well done, but there has to be a link between style and content. This film was so devoid of meaning and its story so flat and uninteresting (zero character development, no surprises, and so on) that Refn's stylistic approach seems completely inappropriate to me. How critics can think of this as a truly great movie is entirely beyond me.
It's hard to value style if it seems to have zero link to the events of the film, so certainly in that sense I wouldn't say it was strong stylistically. But I do appreciate that at least Refn did implement a distinct style and followed it through. A lot of films I watch (admittedly and unfortunately not nearly enough films that appear to have real artistic intentions) seem to lack that entirely - the camera points to the action and that's about it.Wannabe dickhead filmmakers that aren't able to see that style should serve a story and is (usually) not enough in itself.
I actually don't even think it was that good aesthetically - sure, there was "style" and Refn spent a lot of time on how the film looked, but I found it very dull looking, overly dark (you're allowed to light some scenes) and just in general meh. Felt more like a cinema student art project, something where the idea of style was more important than actually thinking about what you were gonna be showing, and just really really boring. I really hated it.
I think it’s a good introduction to slow cinema.I saw some critics gave it full points and that it featured in a list of best films of the decade so far (the 2010s). I just don't get that. Yes, stylistically is well done, but there has to be a link between style and content. This film was so devoid of meaning and its story so flat and uninteresting (zero character development, no surprises, and so on) that Refn's stylistic approach seems completely inappropriate to me. How critics can think of this as a truly great movie is entirely beyond me.
Only God forgives.@Gringo - that's OK, I forgive you for your poor opinion.
I think it’s a good introduction to slow cinema.
There are themes imo(Revenge, abusive parent relationship, paying for the sins of others, etc). But I can easily see why people hate it although I can’t help but think there’s a magic to the film. I’ll have to watch it a full watch again.
Also I think the context of when it was made gives the film as cult classic vibe. Drive is not only a genuine masterpiece but was a pretty decent commercial success. Refn could have easily just lived in LA hitting the copy and past button for a good few years. Yet he goes to Thailand and makes this very slow paced strange film(Killing a lot hyper/good he had with any mass audience). It’s sort of admirable and rare nowadays.
And it’s responsible for this amazing moment -
I think it’s a good introduction to slow cinema.
There are themes imo(Revenge, abusive parent relationship, paying for the sins of others, etc). But I can easily see why people hate it although I can’t help but think there’s a magic to the film. I’ll have to watch it a full watch again.
Also I think the context of when it was made gives the film as cult classic vibe. Drive is not only a genuine masterpiece but was a pretty decent commercial success. Refn could have easily just lived in LA hitting the copy and past button for a good few years. Yet he goes to Thailand and makes this very slow paced strange film(Killing a lot hyper/good he had with any mass audience). It’s sort of admirable and rare nowadays.
And it’s responsible for this amazing moment -
And how do you know I'm not?Only God forgives.
I saw some critics gave it full points and that it featured in a list of best films of the decade so far (the 2010s). I just don't get that. Yes, stylistically it's well done, but there has to be a link between style and content. This film was so devoid of meaning and its story so flat and uninteresting (zero character development, no surprises, and so on) that Refn's stylistic approach seems completely inappropriate to me. How critics can think of this as a truly great movie is entirely beyond me.
The thing with Refn is that Drive was the outlier. His other works are a lot more in line with the vibe, esthetic, and lack of plot as seen in Only Cheimoon Forgives. Pusher, Bronson, Valhalla Rising, The Neon Demon, they are more similar than they are dissimilar.Wannabe dickhead filmmakers that aren't able to see that style should serve a story and is (usually) not enough in itself.
I actually don't even think it was that good aesthetically - sure, there was "style" and Refn spent a lot of time on how the film looked, but I found it very dull looking, overly dark (you're allowed to light some scenes) and just in general meh. Felt more like a cinema student art project, something where the idea of style was more important than actually thinking about what you were gonna be showing, and just really really boring. I really hated it.
Interesting. I should see more of Refn's work then - but not The Neon Demon I guess.The thing with Refn is that Drive was the outlier. His other works are a lot more in line with the vibe, esthetic, and lack of plot as seen in Only Cheimoon Forgives. Pusher, Bronson, Valhalla Rising, The Neon Demon, they are more similar than they are dissimilar.
Only Cheimoon Forgives looked amazing. The trailer was incredible. And Gosling is one of the best actors of his generation. I have a bit of an inside scoop on Refn and his process, though. Basically Drive was a shock, people didn't expect it to be as adored as it was. In large part, the producers stepped in and forced a bunch of alterations on Refn that made the film more commercial. Because of its reception, Gosling said he'd do any script that Refn ate up with next, and the result was Only Cheimoon Forgives. They also holed up and edited for something like a year.
I actually really like Refn's work, too, just this film was poop. So was Neon Demon. Only God Forgives plus Neon Demon was like two bad acid trips in a row, and I'm never taking acid again. I believe Refn doesn't care at all about commercial viability.
Yeah, I read that, and there some interesting bits in the IMDB trivia also. I can't but like his approach to film making - even if I didn't actually like the film it resulted in.Found this on wiki about Only Cheimoon Forgives:
Robbie Collin of The Daily Telegraph reflected concerns over the film in a three out of five star review. "The film's characters are non-people; the things they say to each other are non-conversations, the events they enact are non-drama," he wrote. But he praised Refn for following up his commercially successful film Drive with "...this abstruse, neon-dunked nightmare that spits in the face of coherence and flicks at the earlobes of good taste".[30]
Couldn't agree more.
It's one of those movies that might have played better without sound. It made have made more sense if you just went by actor's expressions and guessed what they were flapping their mouths about. 3 out of 5 stars is wildly generous. I'd give it a 3/10.Yeah, I read that, and there some interesting bits in the IMDB trivia also. I can't but like his approach to film making - even if I didn't actually like the film it resulted in.
I think it’s a good introduction to slow cinema.
There are themes imo(Revenge, abusive parent relationship, paying for the sins of others, etc). But I can easily see why people hate it although I can’t help but think there’s a magic to the film. I’ll have to watch it a full watch again.
Also I think the context of when it was made gives the film as cult classic vibe. Drive is not only a genuine masterpiece but was a pretty decent commercial success. Refn could have easily just lived in LA hitting the copy and past button for a good few years. Yet he goes to Thailand and makes this very slow paced strange film(Killing a lot hyper/good he had with any mass audience). It’s sort of admirable and rare nowadays.
And it’s responsible for this amazing moment -
Using the search function, you seem to be the only person who talked about this film. My girlfriend watched it the other day and recommended it to me without telling me too much about it, I went in not expecting much... and I was blown away. It's absolutely beautiful. It's so wonderfully understated, everything is soft and well thought out, it feels pure and minimalistic, and the aesthetic of the whole film is soothing, peaceful and pleasing. That's before you get to the performances (all absolutely perfect) and the depth of the story that will affect everyone differently but this portrayal of loss, examination of what it means to live, the impact our lives have on others with the backdrop of AI (and technology more widely) totally integrated into our daily lives resonated big time for me. I thought it was really lovely and it's a film I can see it becoming a regular yearly watch alongside films like Eternal Sunshine (for different reasons) and my thoughts on what it's showing changing along with my life experiences.We've had After Yang on our list for a while. I can't remember why we added it exactly or why we haven't got around to seeing it yet. Again, I knew very little about this film before going into it, even what sort of genre it fell into. All I have to say is that I came away from it very impressed and consider it a marvellous feat of cinema. It's just gorgeous. The film has an odd, slow-natured pace to it, including when some of the main characters communicate with each other. There is something quite off about the setting and there are little hints throughout that suggest the world has undergone some significant changes prior to the start of the film. It's my ideal sci-fi film in that the science-fiction acts as a backdrop to tell a more human story. The final 30 minutes are just magnificent, particularly with how certain effects are shown, notably during the 'memory' sequences. I found the ending very impactful and it's one of those types of films that stays with you a long while after watching it. The story is nice and compact without ever going off on any unusual tangents or stretching itself too far, and I loved all of the performances of the characters, notably the main four family members. My wife watched it with me and she utterly adored it, too. One of my favourite films that I've seen this year.
Disagree. Hating things with a passion is always much more fun!Aw man I'm sad you liked it. Well no, good for you, it's always better than hating things with a passion.
I think it’s a difficult one as the slow cinema style (At least going from what Paul Schrader has said)goal is to force the viewer to engage with the work by having not a lot happening on the screen. They put themes on the surface and let it sit which creates a mood/vibe but does lack development. It could genuinely be a limitation of this type of film making.Yeah, I agree there is a variety of themes in there, but I thought it was all pretty surface-level, obvious stuff. Not much exploration, no development (basically the first scence that makes the theme clear tells you all you need to know), etc. Or maybe I'm setting my bar too high here.
Friedkin's a real dick.
Refn seems to be an arrogant cock.
His first film - Columbus is on YouTube. Well worth watching. Another beautiful work.Using the search function, you seem to be the only person who talked about this film. My girlfriend watched it the other day and recommended it to me without telling me too much about it, I went in not expecting much... and I was blown away. It's absolutely beautiful. It's so wonderfully understated, everything is soft and well thought out, it feels pure and minimalistic, and the aesthetic of the whole film is soothing, peaceful and pleasing. That's before you get to the performances (all absolutely perfect) and the depth of the story that will affect everyone differently but this portrayal of loss, examination of what it means to live, the impact our lives have on others with the backdrop of AI (and technology more widely) totally integrated into our daily lives resonated big time for me. I thought it was really lovely and it's a film I can see it becoming a regular yearly watch alongside films like Eternal Sunshine (for different reasons) and my thoughts on what it's showing changing along with my life experiences.
It's a beautiful film that I don't think is mentioned enough (I don't think I'd really heard about it). I forgot to mention the score of the film, which was one of Ryuichi Sakamoto's last before dying, it perfectly fits the overall tone of the film and is extremely pleasing.