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Has a 'Best of Britney Spears' album
It's once a year. So will be like September time.And what's up with your tv-series thread?
It's once a year. So will be like September time.And what's up with your tv-series thread?
Absolutely amazing film. Probably too slow for general public appreciation, but I agree with everything you say here. In particular the train robbery at night I thought was just so amazingly shot.I also rewatched The assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford the other day, this should be talked about more in people's all time best films. Probably has one of the best intros to any film, Brad Pitt is magnetic in it, Casey Affleck is a perfect fit for the whiny, annoying Bob Ford, and the ensemble cast is overall great (forgot how many great actors were in this). The photography ranks amongst the best out there (some shots are spectacularly beautiful), and Nick Cave's soundtrack is the icing on the cake of this delirious, onirical ballad in a long forgotten era.
"while your mullet flaps in the background" is now my favourite phrase.Oh it doesn’t get more romantic than putting the seat belt on your drug cartel crush while your mullet flaps in background, as you drive a speedboat to communist Cuba.
It’s so good that at least for me it has ruined a lot of other movies. Far too many films have listenable dialogue and boring things like plot. Where really the grunts, moody close ups and just vibes for 2 hours is clearly the vastly better cinematic experience.
Also the levels of interest the film demands of audience is so low. Which should be a negative but works in the film favour, I don’t pay much attention to what any of the characters are saying and I’ll some times have it on in the background during the day. It’s really more of a crime thriller art installation than a traditional film.
I’ve always struggle to pick a version I like more. Both are great, the opening to the director cuts sets the tone for the rest of the film but the original release just hits the audience with the Jay Z/Linkin Park song, which shouldn’t work at all but it’s perfect(It also makes the opening far more confusing, so it’s odd that was the one the studio wanted).
Have you seen Harmony Korine Spring Breakers ? Apparently Miami Vice was a big influence for Korine. I can definitely see the effect it had on him but replace Mann love of men at work for the dumbest capitalist subjects on the planet. It’s like a modern day Scarface.
Yeah the theatrical cut is almost more Mann than Mann(If that makes sense). Even from the financial point, I would have thought the studio having spent all that money on the board would want to use the opening. Still it’s great that both exist."while your mullet flaps in the background" is now my favourite phrase.
Completely agree with the rest of your take on it, I knew you were of the Church of Mann conviction. Especially the part concerning the intro of the theatrical version - it hits harder and is weirdly confusing, whereas Mann's DC one helps put 2 and 2 together a bit better (which is hardly needed). Very strange the studio wanted the other, maybe another Church of Mann-ic was in charge of the final cut.
“An angel if there ever was one on earth” is such a incredible line then followed by pink balaclava masks and the spinning(Also the “Look at all my shit”scene is another great moment).I've seen Spring Breakers and love how misrepresentative all the marketing material around it was. People went in expecting bikinis, sex, and drugs and got all that + James Franco sporting fake teeth singing Britney Spears at a piano by the pool. It's a wonderful mindfeck that so many people didn't get.
I do watch quality sometimes.Who the feck are you? Where's Pauldy?
Get outI do watch quality sometimes.
100%. (I’m overlooking the Emma Stone bit.)Babylon, the feck is this shit. First 5 minutes has an elephant crap in the face gag, followed by a you need a permit for that elephant gag and then a fat exec beeing pissed on. Jackass or Chuckle Brothers? It's a poor imitation of either.
Then the most tame and lame cartoon debauchery, looking like Baz Luhrmann directing an episode of Ibiza Uncovered, complete with oversized prop cocks, girls kissing and random shagging. "Stop being a whiney bitch" and "where are the drugs" make up the dialogue. Scuzzy Brad Pitt is such a fecking bore and as much as I like Emma Stone the totally-out-there screeching A-lister gimmick is wearing incredibly thin.
It seems to be going for a screwball Coens style but it has no timing, no sense of the absurd or the humorous, no heart or substance.
Its like everything that Elon Musk thinks is funny, cool and daring.
All this before the title screen.
I never realised what a fecking dork Chazelle is but thinking back over his filmography I think the evidence is there. It's all so bloody boring; Cinema all out of ideas and talent.
I feel like I'm in an age of artistic amnesia and I'm the only person who remembers a time when everything wasn't completely shit. Barton Fink, Wild At Heart, All About Eve... anyone?
Also pretty good.Get out
Also pretty good.
I can totally buy Farrell being so off his tits he has no recollection of it. Also, if Gong Li is anything like the character she portrays, she'll have no feelings whatsoever towards the film. What has Mann said about it? I'm surprised he's on the fence about it!Yeah the theatrical cut is almost more Mann than Mann(If that makes sense). Even from the financial point, I would have thought the studio having spent all that money on the board would want to use the opening. Still it’s great that both exist.
The only really disappointing thing around the film, is the people involved don't seem to think it's a masterpiece. Jamie Foxx apparently hated going on the boats and planes, Farrell can't remember anything from it as he was always drunk or high and Mann still doesn't know if he likes it or not(Couldn't find out how Gong Li feels about the movie).
“An angel if there ever was one on earth” is such a incredible line then followed by pink balaclava masks and the spinning(Also the “Look at all my shit”scene is another great moment).
Like Miami Vice, Hollywood will at times make
something incredibly, it’s just shame almost everyone hates it.
I enjoyed it.Get out
This is from 2016 so maybe he has change his viewsWhat has Mann said about it? I'm surprised he's on the fence about it!
Interviewer - Meanwhile the film of Miami Vice didn’t get a ton of love from critics or audiences, but over the years, it has grown in stature. Many of us consider it one of your absolute best films. Are you aware of the cult around that film?
Mann - No. I don’t know how I feel about it. I know the ambition behind it, but it didn’t fulfill that ambition for me because we couldn’t shoot the real ending. But whole parts of the film are very evocative to me still, especially when it comes to the romance. It was about how far somebody goes when they’re undercover, and what that really means because, ultimately, who you become is yourself on steroids, manifested out there in the real world. There’s an intensity to your living that’s incredible — the relationships in that world, the really heightened experience of it. And this is from speaking to some people who’ve done a lot of very dangerous, deep undercover over long periods. That’s what Crockett does.
As Tubbs reminds him, about Gong Li, in the hangar before they take off for the final confrontation, “Fabricated identity and what’s up are about to collapse into one frame. You ready for that?” But Crockett’s not. He’s 100 percent with her. Tubbs says, “She may be a white-collar money manager. She may be true love. But she is with them.” And Crockett answers, “I ain’t playing.” That’s the telling moment to me. That’s a kind of a passion a man can have for a woman he meets under those circumstances. A lot of the film is driven by that. The romance of the planes in the sky, the offshore race boats, driving Mojo back from Cuba to Miami — he is swept away. It’s a very torrid kind of story, which I really loved. Those are the parts that really work for me. But I’m always curious to hear other people’s take on it. People who love it — I’d be really curious to know why they love it.
https://www.vulture.com/2016/02/michael-mann-looks-back-on-his-career.html
Interesting. I wonder what "real ending" he had in mind?This is from 2016 so maybe he has change his views
Invasion of the Body Snatchers. That's the vibe I'm getting from you PaulydI enjoyed it.
All I’ve able to find over the years is that the real ending was meant to take place in Paraguay. But the location was changed to Miami because of safety concerns by Foxx(The plane flying was apparently very unsafe and a security guard shot a crew member!).Interesting. I wonder what "real ending" he had in mind?
HA HA Body Snatchers is also decent, Donald Sutherland screamingInvasion of the Body Snatchers. That's the vibe I'm getting from you Paulyd
Ohhhh yeah I remember reading something about Foxx's safety concerns. I bet it would have been something shot at Iguaçu falls.All I’ve able to find over the years is that the real ending was meant to take place in Paraguay. But the location was changed to Miami because of safety concerns by Foxx(The plane flying was apparently very unsafe and a security guard shot a crew member!).
Can’t find anything about story changes.
Yeah that would be my guess as well. The weird thing is as I remember reading headlines about Foxx’s “diva”’ acts on set and then finding out it was mostly him worried about getting killed, which is somewhat understandable concern.Ohhhh yeah I remember reading something about Foxx's safety concerns. I bet it would have been something shot at Iguaçu falls.
Where did you find/watch this?From The East
Chantal Akerman travels from East Berlin to Moscow as the Soviet Union is in collapse. Beautiful and simple documentary, includes almost no talking, some environmental sounds of cars and lots of tracking shots and static shots. Which can be pretty difficult to sit through(Tbh I ended up putting on some music as self made soundtrack - Oneohtrix Point Never album Russian Mind, gave the film a sci fi hyper normal feel), still it's brilliant piece of work.
9/10
It's up on youtube, I'll pm the link.Where did you find/watch this?
Cheers, looks very interesting.It's up on youtube, I'll pm the link.
No worries just sent it.Cheers, looks very interesting.
Agree with this. Not exactly something to put on casually with friends, but it's quite unique. The soundtrack suggestion was brilliant - really upped the tension in an odd way when my concentration started to fail after an hour or so.From The East
Chantal Akerman travels from East Berlin to Moscow as the Soviet Union is in collapse. Beautiful and simple documentary, includes almost no talking, some environmental sounds of cars and lots of tracking shots and static shots. Which can be pretty difficult to sit through(Tbh I ended up putting on some music as self made soundtrack - Oneohtrix Point Never album Russian Mind, gave the film a sci fi hyper normal feel), still it's brilliant piece of work.
9/10
Glad you liked. Yeah it's very different.Agree with this. Not exactly something to put on casually with friends, but it's quite unique.
I remember someone suggesting it to me and it's a life saver. I get what these types are films are trying to do(Stripping the film to it's very basics, in order to force the audience to engage)but after a certain period of time it just becomes boring. Also showed me the importance of music, it adds so much to movies.The soundtrack suggestion was brilliant - really upped the tension in an odd way when my concentration started to fail after an hour or so.
Out of interest, why did you dislike it ?
It being shit probably didn't help.Out of interest, why did you dislike it ?
It's hard to put my finger on. I didn't actually hate it, the gif was more of a joke, but I found myself losing interest with each passing minute once they met Jamie Lee Curtis's character. Then it started to get irritating and the bits that I'm presuming were supposed to be humorous I started to get annoyed by and by the time the (obviously flagposted) villain started beating people around the head with dildos I realised I was done with it. The overt wackiness isn't for me.Out of interest, why did you dislike it ?
Cheers. I'm a bit like yourself, I’m not a massive fan of it but it’s difficult to say why. I didn’t mind the comedy although I can see it as very hit and miss for people. The issue I had was the love schtick aspect, for me at least, it didn't work. But also I do realise thats just me being a bitter cynic, if the message of the film is that love is the most illogical move a human can make and is therefore the most powerful act a person can do, then the film hits onto somethingIt's hard to put my finger on. I didn't actually hate it, the gif was more of a joke, but I found myself losing interest with each passing minute once they met Jamie Lee Curtis's character. Then it started to get irritating and the bits that I'm presuming were supposed to be humorous I started to get annoyed by and by the time the (obviously flagposted) villain started beating people around the head with dildos I realised I was done with it. The overt wackiness isn't for me.
I went into the film knowing a little about it and was genuinely looking forward to it, so fair to say I was disappointed by the actuality of it. I don't think I'll be queueing up for any more films by the Daniels.
It being shit probably didn't help.
Creed 4 - Creed vs RockyCreed 3
Thoroughly enjoyable film straight of the Rocky playbook, some nice backstory of the lead character showing the vulnerabilities of Adonis Creed played by the brilliant Michael B Jordan who also did a tremendous job directing it.
His nemesis in this film is his old best friend whose life has gone in a completely different direction to Creed’s. Jonathan Majors plays the intimidating foe and does a great job of getting into Creed’s head.
Obviously one for Rocky/Creed fans and for me should be the final instalment but I will be watching Creed 4 when it comes around.
7/10
Creed 4 - Creed vs Rocky