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The Redcafe Champions League Draft
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I understand why people think I should have gone for Angloma but to be honest I have so little knowledge of him and also a CL-winner.
If I got any of the non-CL wrong let me know but it looks right off the top of my head. Will Gio try win it with an all non-CL XI?
For Tito, Blanc never won it.
Nor did Fabregas.
Good job man. That's a very well balanced 4-4-2, and Van Nistelrooy is a huge vote winner for me, particularly with Beckham in the team.
Rafael just stands like a sore thumb though. If you did this draft on any other football forum, I seriously doubt that anyone would consider picking Rafael.
He seems to prefer him to Ramos on the bench too.
I would too. Pepe for Carvalho and Ramos for Gallas and our back 4 would be the all star cnut team. Some really dislike Ramos, some don't rate him as a player and some think both. Rafael however has just had a very good season and is very liked on this forum.
Myself, I don't think Rafael stands any more out than Capdevila. He's famous for being the only competent left back at the beginning of Spain's reign.
For example instead of Shevchenko. Gio could also have done with him. He's got plenty of non-winners as it is and up top is Owen. Raúl is comfortably the better choice.
You are right, Marseille... Fair enough regardless, it's never a good idea to go with a player you know little about unless he is universally accepted as brilliant!
Of course... he was NOT at Marseille when they won it. I had a right mare there
Yeah, he moved after they beat us, I just put CL win on any Barca player by default. My bad. That makes Gio's CL winners Rio-Vidic, Zanetti and Ronnie. That's basically an inverse CL quota, and a bloody good use of it too!
Theon is basically Milan, I would have taken Kaká but can see how he couldn't resist Shevchenko.
Gio plays one upfront and will have a choice of Henry or Romario as his next reinforcement. You would make all three picks he made ahead of taking Raúl for the one game. Assuming he goes through, of course.
I needed a non winner. Toldo or Angloma wouldn't have worked.
I think the only reason why he goes under the radar is due to him being young really, he isn't worse than someone like Srna, Heinze, Grosso, Sagna etc imo. On the plus side his attacking play is great and imo better than Ramos which is why I've gone with him and thrown Ramos to the bench. That being said I might consider Ramos for the game since he'll be against Giggs and Ramos is obviously more defensive, so him covering might help me nullify that somewhat.
Toldo is definitely a non-winner.
Would've been funny if you hadn't took him, and kps decided to go for Lloris instead thinking Toldo was a winner!
My bad. Didn't realise he didn't get any game time during that season.
Anyone gout Kluivert he and Rivaldo linked up so well together during the Barca day's comparable to that Cole-Yorke link up.
Yeah that was a brilliant partnership when both players were at their peak. I'd have liked to have renewed it here.
Yeah, I knew you were probably going to persist with Makaay, but thought Kluivert was a good option for you.
Definitely I was looking so some Barca tv videos and the amount of times they linked up for goals and their understanding was almost telepathic then they had Figo with them there also. I think Rivaldo is somewhat underrated people don't mention him as much as they should in lists of great players. I think he was Brazil's best player in 2002.
Yeah, so to be honest I had a very hard time with my third pick.. I just went for Pires in the end.
kps wise pick to make the best DM pair of Davids - Redondo () ; and reducing the dependence on Riquelme as the only creative outlet. Replacing Heinze with Ashley Cole is an excellent move; a welcome addition to the best CB pair in the draft, in Kohler-Costacurta. I'd pick Lehmann over Lloris as non-CL gk, but it's not a major issue.
I rate Angloma as good as Lizarazu or Lahm, but understandably that he's a CL winner and not that well-known, make him less attractive pick.
) ; and reducing the dependence on Riquelme as the only creative outlet. Replacing Heinze with Ashley Cole is an excellent move; a welcome addition to the best CB pair in the draft, in Kohler-Costacurta. I'd pick Lehmann over Lloris as non-CL gk, but it's not a major issue.I rate Angloma as good as Lizarazu or Lahm, but understandably that he's a CL winner and not that well-known, make him less attractive pick.
Well I watched these two videos recently - probably the same ones - and it reinforced what an understanding they had together. Some good partnerships in that era, Yorke and Cole obviously, Raul and Morientes, Shevchenko and Rebrov and so on.
Yeah same ones I watched Kluiverts also and Ronaldo sets him up for goals many times also. I wonder how the voters would react to such a partnership over say Rivaldo and an Henry which I assume would work because they are both so good but this is tried and tested.
Tried and tested will be huge in this draft. All the sides look very strong and the quarters and semis will flush out any teams with weak links. the final will most likely be settled on what is know to work.
Has Theon lost interest in this?
He's probably busy, as am I until Monday I think, that's probably the earliest I can get my write up done. When's everyone planning to do thiers?
I'm away on holiday from Sunday for 10 days, so would be keen to do my quarter-final either side of that.
akash/Aldo, would you be ready to start your game with Gio on Friday?
I am free till Saturday
Antohan would you be in a position to take in the tactics and post the match thread in Theon's absence?
I've been extremely busy with work this week so I haven't been able log on, but there was always going to be a gap anyway to let people do their profiles.
EDogen couldn't do his game before Thursday and Ralaks was at a festival, so there was no harm in waiting.
EDogen couldn't do his game before Thursday and Ralaks was at a festival, so there was no harm in waiting.
Gio v Akash - Fri
TITO v Theon - Sat
EDogen v Ralaks - Sun
Fergus v kps - Mon
That was the order of the draw, but some of you might need to swap around days so if you do PM me and we'll try and swap them around. For now though that can be the preliminary schedule.
TITO v Theon - Sat
EDogen v Ralaks - Sun
Fergus v kps - Mon
That was the order of the draw, but some of you might need to swap around days so if you do PM me and we'll try and swap them around. For now though that can be the preliminary schedule.
That's fine Theon, I was conscious something like Gio's situation could come up and in that case we had to make sure the two sides were committed to a writeup deadline. It would be a complete arse to stop the entire thing a further ten days from Sunday waiting for Gio to come back from holidays.
If he plays Friday and wins there are plenty of games in between.
If he plays Friday and wins there are plenty of games in between.
Yes, that was the idea if Theon was too tied up or a no show.
I was getting worried there, thought he might have got tetanus from his primitive vasectomy.
I'm fine with whatever day really, I've no serious plans for the next few weeks, finally done with festivals for this summer. So if need be and if EDogen is alright with it them our game can be moved/swapped if needed..
EDogen Player profiles
Gianluigi Buffon
Juventus and Italy legend, one of best keepers of all time. You really have to do something special to beat this man. Needs no further introduction, just world class.
Patrice Evra
Our own Paddy! He was the best left back in the world for a couple of years, Evra at his best could run the left side all by himself and did just that for a couple of seasons. Never injured and a major part of one of the greatest eras of Manchester United.
Alessandro Nesta
World Cup, Champions League and Serie A winner and also the best centre half of his generation with, one of the best readers of the game that has ever been seen. The timing of his tackling in his prime was a joy to watch. In my opinion the best central defender in this draft.
Cirro Ferrara
Started his career in Napoli and was an important part of a great team playing as a right back before switching to centre back and becoming even greater in that position. Later a leader for the dominant Juventus team in the mid 90s, and the ever-strong Italian national team. Like many other defenders from Italy he is one of the all-time greats. Seven times Serie A winner and also winner of the Champions League. Elegant defender who you always can rely on.
Fernando Hierro
Real Madrid legend that could play both as a central defender and as defensive midfielder at the highest level. Outstanding range of passing and an inspirational leader for club and country. Over 500 games for Madrid with multiple Champions League and La Liga wins. Spain´s finest defender of the modern era. Scored 21 league goals in on season when playing in midfield.
Luis Enrique
The man who could play every position, well almost everywhere. A true leader with a work rate like few other players. Great technique and pace to beat his opponent and also a good passer of the ball, this together with being a real goal threat made him one of the best box-to-box midfielders in the 90s. Also good as attacking midfielder, winger or right back. Big game player and Barcelona legend. 109 goals in 300 appearances for Barca.
Diego Simeone
Defensive midfielder and hard man Diego Simeone, a great ball winner who played for Argentina 106 times. Great mentality and work rate and he will run until the game is won for 90+ minutes. Also capable of scoring goals from a deeper position.
Zinedine Zidane
Out of this world, what a player Mr Zidane was. One of the best talents the world has ever seen. Serie A, La Liga, Champions League, European Championship and World Cup winner. Magical to watch and a player you would want in every team. Big game player.
Ryan Giggs
Manchester United legend and all time great, one of the best left wingers the world has ever seen. Great dribbling, wonderful balance and pace to beat his defender. Great vision of the game and with that also very good delivery. Also has one of the best first touches in the game.
Arjen Robben
One of the best wingers of the last 5 years in world football. Pace, dribbling and a left foot to score wonder goals over and over again. Fantastic in one-on-one situations and brings a real x-factor to any team. A part of both a successful Bayern Munich team and also an important figure in the national team. He has this ability to turn a game in the blink of an eye. 68 goals in 121 games for Bayern. Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga and Champions League winner.
Robin van Persie
The best striker of the last three years in the game in my opinion. A goal scoring machine with a left foot out of this world. Good movement with the ball and finding the right spaces as well. Technique, vision and a great understanding of the game. Brilliant touch and a joy to watch.
Subs:
Robert Pires
Deco
Rustu Recber
Bacary Sagna
Gianluigi Buffon
Juventus and Italy legend, one of best keepers of all time. You really have to do something special to beat this man. Needs no further introduction, just world class.
Patrice Evra
Our own Paddy! He was the best left back in the world for a couple of years, Evra at his best could run the left side all by himself and did just that for a couple of seasons. Never injured and a major part of one of the greatest eras of Manchester United.
Alessandro Nesta
World Cup, Champions League and Serie A winner and also the best centre half of his generation with, one of the best readers of the game that has ever been seen. The timing of his tackling in his prime was a joy to watch. In my opinion the best central defender in this draft.
Cirro Ferrara
Started his career in Napoli and was an important part of a great team playing as a right back before switching to centre back and becoming even greater in that position. Later a leader for the dominant Juventus team in the mid 90s, and the ever-strong Italian national team. Like many other defenders from Italy he is one of the all-time greats. Seven times Serie A winner and also winner of the Champions League. Elegant defender who you always can rely on.
Fernando Hierro
Real Madrid legend that could play both as a central defender and as defensive midfielder at the highest level. Outstanding range of passing and an inspirational leader for club and country. Over 500 games for Madrid with multiple Champions League and La Liga wins. Spain´s finest defender of the modern era. Scored 21 league goals in on season when playing in midfield.
Luis Enrique
The man who could play every position, well almost everywhere. A true leader with a work rate like few other players. Great technique and pace to beat his opponent and also a good passer of the ball, this together with being a real goal threat made him one of the best box-to-box midfielders in the 90s. Also good as attacking midfielder, winger or right back. Big game player and Barcelona legend. 109 goals in 300 appearances for Barca.
Diego Simeone
Defensive midfielder and hard man Diego Simeone, a great ball winner who played for Argentina 106 times. Great mentality and work rate and he will run until the game is won for 90+ minutes. Also capable of scoring goals from a deeper position.
Zinedine Zidane
Out of this world, what a player Mr Zidane was. One of the best talents the world has ever seen. Serie A, La Liga, Champions League, European Championship and World Cup winner. Magical to watch and a player you would want in every team. Big game player.
Ryan Giggs
Manchester United legend and all time great, one of the best left wingers the world has ever seen. Great dribbling, wonderful balance and pace to beat his defender. Great vision of the game and with that also very good delivery. Also has one of the best first touches in the game.
Arjen Robben
One of the best wingers of the last 5 years in world football. Pace, dribbling and a left foot to score wonder goals over and over again. Fantastic in one-on-one situations and brings a real x-factor to any team. A part of both a successful Bayern Munich team and also an important figure in the national team. He has this ability to turn a game in the blink of an eye. 68 goals in 121 games for Bayern. Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga and Champions League winner.
Robin van Persie
The best striker of the last three years in the game in my opinion. A goal scoring machine with a left foot out of this world. Good movement with the ball and finding the right spaces as well. Technique, vision and a great understanding of the game. Brilliant touch and a joy to watch.
Subs:
Robert Pires
Deco
Rustu Recber
Bacary Sagna
Hugo Lloris – Three time keeper of the year in France and he has established himself in England as well. A brilliant shot stopper and sweeper.
Michel Salgado: 2 time CL winner and a bit of a nutter. He was tough, aggressive and not to be messed with. Had a great engine on him; will run up and down the right flank all day.
Jurgen Kohler: One of the greatest man markers of all time. Has won league titles with Bayern, Juventus and Dortmund. Also has a CL and World Cup medal to his name. He was strong as an ox and unbeatable in the air. Think Vidic on steroids.
Allesandro Costacurta: Part of the legendary Milan back four of the 90s. Billy has more than 450 caps for Milan and has won everything there is to win with them, including 7 league titles and 5 CLs.
Ashley Cole: Perhaps the best left back of his generation. Equally capable going forward and defending.
Edgar Davids: A beast of a midfielder. Was named in the Euro 2000 and WC 98 all star teams. Will bring power, energy and drive to the midfield.
Fernando Redondo: Perhaps the greatest defensive midfielder in the draft. Capable of contributing both off and on the ball. Hugely influential for Real Madrid and helped them win everything there was to win.
Juan Roman Riquelme: Supremely gifted playmaker, capable of effortlessly drifting around the pitch and running the game.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Not much needs to be said. Goal scoring machine, capable of doing it all.
Kily Gonzalez: Part of the great Valencia side of the early 2000s. Lightening quick and a great crosser of the ball.
Christian Vieri: Built like an ox. At his peak, Bobo had pace and power and was almost unplayable. He holds the record for most headed goals scored in Serie A history.
(SUB) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: Super Sub. Can be the difference between a draw and a win.
Michel Salgado: 2 time CL winner and a bit of a nutter. He was tough, aggressive and not to be messed with. Had a great engine on him; will run up and down the right flank all day.
Jurgen Kohler: One of the greatest man markers of all time. Has won league titles with Bayern, Juventus and Dortmund. Also has a CL and World Cup medal to his name. He was strong as an ox and unbeatable in the air. Think Vidic on steroids.
Allesandro Costacurta: Part of the legendary Milan back four of the 90s. Billy has more than 450 caps for Milan and has won everything there is to win with them, including 7 league titles and 5 CLs.
Ashley Cole: Perhaps the best left back of his generation. Equally capable going forward and defending.
Edgar Davids: A beast of a midfielder. Was named in the Euro 2000 and WC 98 all star teams. Will bring power, energy and drive to the midfield.
Fernando Redondo: Perhaps the greatest defensive midfielder in the draft. Capable of contributing both off and on the ball. Hugely influential for Real Madrid and helped them win everything there was to win.
Juan Roman Riquelme: Supremely gifted playmaker, capable of effortlessly drifting around the pitch and running the game.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Not much needs to be said. Goal scoring machine, capable of doing it all.
Kily Gonzalez: Part of the great Valencia side of the early 2000s. Lightening quick and a great crosser of the ball.
Christian Vieri: Built like an ox. At his peak, Bobo had pace and power and was almost unplayable. He holds the record for most headed goals scored in Serie A history.
(SUB) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: Super Sub. Can be the difference between a draw and a win.