Because he goes back baby face after a month, we’ve been waiting for this for 15 years and he immediately gets punked out as the heel and goes face again? Feels like it undermines the biggest heel turn since Hogan/Austin.
Really, a brutal beatdown of the top face feels like a face move? Weird take.Really enjoyed that but I'm a bit confused.
Cena and Rock beating up Cody feels like a face move for me
I dont see Cody as a top face, he's boring vanilla and uncharesmatic. I fall asleep when he delivers a promo and he always looks second best when trying to ramp up interest. I feel Roman+Bloodline carried him in their rivalry Kevin Owens carried him in their fued too.
It doesn't matter how you see him because he is a top face because that's what his presentation is. The thing with wrestling is whether they are heel or face is not open for interpretation, they are what they are.
Yeah I've watched for decades I know how it works. My post was about how I was viewing it, so in that context it very much matters how I see him. In fact it's the only thing that mattered.
But it still doesn't matter how you view it because the facts are different. Just because he's not over for you and you like him being beaten up it doesn't change the fact that he's a face being beaten by heels.
When I say "for me", it's the only thing that matters.
I'm not saying you have to root for the good guy because they're the good guy, cheering for the bad guy is something a lot of people do, myself included. I'm only saying you can't decide who is a good guy snd who isn't bssed on your preferences
Yeah he needs more than six weeks as a heel. He defo needs to become champ.
I get what you're saying but in terms of preferences, I can see it that way because I consume the product is my call. I enjoy it when Cody loses and his presence gets heat from me
I hear it, but do we want to see Cena being heel for the majority of his last run?
I think he’ll have a mini reign of terror, and turn back around July/August
Hell yes we do!
Called it haha
I wonder what his ‘look’ will be? Will he start rocking this Hollywood look or will it be the same but a villain version.
A whole new meaning to the last time is now
Cena in a suit would be mad. Combed haircut, suit and new music
He had a title shot at Cody at Bash in Berlin I thinkWhen Zayn hit Owens with a trash can and the commentary says "he just hit Owens with Dominick Mysterio"
Why is Kevin Owens always in a weird blood feud but never in the title picture? Since returning to watching this again, I swear he's the best all rounder. His promo work feels personal, he's great!
Really enjoyed the event overall. Seth is a cnut.
"I'm afraid we'll have to put him out of his misery"
And at the rumble no?
Yeah exactly, I thought he'd had another also.
Yeah I guess I meant why they won't make him champion.
Unfortunately not. That aspect the WWE is boring
Kevin Owens is just the best thing in WWE but I guess he doesn't sell enough merch. He's just a vehicle to make storylines interesting now, had to carry Cody in a rivalry to keep him remotely interesting.When Zayn hit Owens with a trash can and the commentary says "he just hit Owens with Dominick Mysterio"
Why is Kevin Owens always in a weird blood feud but never in the title picture? Since returning to watching this again, I swear he's the best all rounder. His promo work feels personal, he's great!
Really enjoyed the event overall. Seth is a cnut.
If Owens sold more merch he'd be at the top. His value is still pretty high, he's ridiculously good. Owens is the guy that can work with anyone and give them a 5* match. There's a reason HHH has him in high regard and why Austin came out of retirement for him.
