The point of being the richest club in the world???

breakout67 said:
Transfers have been rising in line with the Football Industry. In real terms transfer prices have remained stable for many many years. Veron was a greater percentage of revenue than Pogba. Rooney was bought for 10% of our revenue at the time which would be about £60 million now.
Can you imagine if an 18 year old Rooney came onto the seen now and performed like Mbappe did this season...he would be going for £100 million.

The new TV deal has meant all english clubs can now spend an extra £10 million on a player just because they dont know what to do with the money.

Transfers havent become expensive, they are effectively at a similar level to 10 years ago because clubs have more money.
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You're spot on and it's why I agree with the op.

I am confident that Mourinho and Ed will spend what they need to in order to get what the club needs and what the team needs.
 
In this day and age it certainly deserves a trophy, and with that, the community shield, the league cup, the europa league and almost certainly the super cup, there is an argument to be made that we've had a more successful year than Real Madrid.
 
Being the richest club in the world means you can throw money at the penultimate goal of staying relevant and being successful.

In footballing terms we are 6th and deservedly so but if any of the teams who were above us win the league, they would still find it difficult to continue to compete the next season after (sort of like Atletico in Spain). Look at our investment, despite doing nothing post Fergie. Imagine if we actually won the Premier League/Champions League. We would have a head start to stay at the top.

Of course it means nothing now though lol. It's basically saying, 'yehh just you watch once we hit top gear..', when we haven't shown anything near it whilst the others are buzzing ahead of us.
 
RedCurry said:
Yea, he seems like a Spurs lifer at the moment. Of course it can all change if their team starts wobbling. But for now, both Kane and Alli are unattainable. I'd absolutely love to have them at United though.
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Pretty much this. I don't see this as a possible transfer this window, could change in the future if they can't realise their ambitions at Spurs.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Where exactly in my post does it say that Morata is shit? I actually think he'd be a good signing. My point is that if we're going to be throwing this money around, and we have history of doing so, why not do it for a guy who's been the top scorer in our own league for three seasons?
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Levy will NEVER sell Kane to Manchester United. It's a waist of time.
 
We should make a 150m bid on him a week into the season, offer to double his wages.
Just for shits and giggles and to screw with them, more than any hope of actually getting him
 
Can we wait for the end of the transfer window before discussing this? In the last three summer windows, we have certainly been flexing our money muscles. This year, we have or will clear massive wages off our books and I expect we will utilise it fully. I just hope we are not stupid enough to not get two attacking players as we were short of one this season itself.
 
As Liverpool found out with Southampton, the days of just throwing money at other PL clubs to entice their players is over.
 
I agree with op, I think it's funny that when we're not in champions league we go and get Pogba, Zlatan, and Mkhi and now we're back we chase average players who could probably a job but won't elevate us to the next level.
 
I agree with the article, I don't know why the people here are saying Kane is unobtainable. Everything and everyone has a price but Tottenham might ask 100 to 150 million for him, would Jose be willing to pay that much for one player? Just make an 100 million bid and Jose should talk to Kane and try to make him see that he can win trophies here which he may not be able to do in Tottenham.
 
No player is worth 200m, but if we were to spend that crazy money then I would say only Neymar can if into that price category... considering ability, age, marketing etc.
 
KM said:
As Liverpool found out with Southampton, the days of just throwing money at other PL clubs to entice their players is over.
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Don't disagree with your general point, but in the Liverpool case, they were trying to get him at a lower price by leaking to the media he only wanted to go to Liverpool.

On a related point, nobody has yet questioned the sanity of a player who would pick Liverpool over Chelsea or City. They are not serious contenders for trophies even with him in the side. They can't pay the best wages either.

The only explanation would be that he is a Liverpool fan and thinks he will solve all their defensive problems.
 
It's a bit silly, Milan for probably get Belotti for 50m but because it's united he's going to be 80m it's bollocks but if I could fleece a big club I would.
 
Marzo said:
If I ran a football club, with they way the market is going, I would definetly be nurturing or chasing young talent from,say South America-or wherever.
The problem is, most Clubs nowadays are like Instant Noodle packets, and want immediate results.
The bigger clubs are all chasing the same players and this is causing the market to escalate.
It's crazy, the bubble has to burst sometime.
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Problem is their success is not a given.

You can ended up paying 20M for a young talent (cough... memphis) and ended up with nothing, or yu can just spend 50-60M on a "PROVEN" player that has made it (even this is not a 100% guarantee)

And if you fail the young talent, the opportunity cost (i.e. giving him game time, losing points, etc) isn't free
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
I'd never want us to spend 100m on Kane. You spend that money plus you had better be getting a Neymar or a Suarez level player/talent. Or at the very least Shearer in his prime, which as much as I love Kane, he ain't a prime Shearer.
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He is not that far away in terms of goals scored. Harry Kane is a bit limited in my opinion, but when it comes to scoring goals he is the best in the P.L
 
JustAFan said:
Most valuable franchise not richest. There's a difference.
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It's not a franchise. This is not America there is no danger of the club suddenly upping sticks and turning up in New York because somebody bought 'the franchise'.
 
lysglimt said:
He is not that far away in terms of goals scored. Harry Kane is a bit limited in my opinion, but when it comes to scoring goals he is the best in the P.L
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That's the thing. He is still a bit limited to be a 100m talent which is what Levy would want as a starting point to even consider selling him. I mean if Everton can laughably think to ask for 100m for the still raw Lukaku......
 
boxykronikle said:
Pogba was already touted as one of the best in his position. How is that hard to comprehend? Pogba has proved himself with Juventus yet Mbappe only had 1 good season which the previous one. I am not belittling his talents or whatnot but he really need to be consistent for at least a few seasons to be paid that kind of fee.
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This old school thinking needs to stop now. In the modern game you don't have time. Wait too long, Madrid will snap him up and have a star on their hands. Yes it's a massive risk paying that much for a player but the reason his price has been escalated that high is because everyone knows if he is the real deal a few seasons will be too late for any team to get him. Yeah he could be a total flop, who knows? Point is it's a bit of a rat race now and you don't have the time to be 100 percent sure.
 
Not my money, so don't care. Football is largely irrelevant entertainment, why are so many fans obsessed with the accounts ?!
 
SachinJ22 said:
I agree with the article, I don't know why the people here are saying Kane is unobtainable. Everything and everyone has a price but Tottenham might ask 100 to 150 million for him, would Jose be willing to pay that much for one player? Just make an 100 million bid and Jose should talk to Kane and try to make him see that he can win trophies here which he may not be able to do in Tottenham.
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Don't even think Levy would consider it.

If you look at this from Spurs point of view we would lose a lot from selling Kane.
- We can't replace him. Which means that the chance of getting CL football is lower.
- It sends the wrong signal to the rest of the squad, meaning we're more likely to lose more players.
- His marketability is quite high, face of 'new Spurs' etc, something worth quite a lot with new naming rights for the stadium etc.

He is worth a lot more than 100m to us, and we don't need the money either. On top of this would be the sporting reasons of having a homegrown top striker. Personally I don't even think 200m would tempt Levy.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
I'd never want us to spend 100m on Kane. You spend that money plus you had better be getting a Neymar or a Suarez level player/talent. Or at the very least Shearer in his prime, which as much as I love Kane, he ain't a prime Shearer.
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If Spurs said we can have Kane for £100m Woody would ask him whether they want cash or a cheque. But it won't happen.
 
Strange thread this! The title seems to ask "what is the point in being the richest club in the world?"
It then talks about the merits of Morata and our chances of buying Kane.
To answer what is (I think) the original question - being the richest club in the world is just a by-product of being commercially successful is it not? What is the point of that? Well everyone wants to be successful don't they? Does commercial success translate to success on the pitch? Not necessarily, it helps in the transfer market. But cash in itself is not the answer. The answer is a lot more complicated than that. But probably the biggest part of it is still down to Mourinho and his management of the squad.
 
Instead of bandying around absurd sums of money for transfers, why don't United invest £100m in developing and improving your scouting and recruitment systems and network?

Then in the future you might not have to act in such a desperate way when it comes to transfers fees and bids.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Instead of bandying around absurd sums of money for transfers, why don't United invest £100m in developing and improving your scouting and recruitment systems and network?

Then in the future you might not have to act in such a desperate way when it comes to transfers fees and bids.
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You never miss an opportunity to have a dig.
 
The thread title reminds me of the line "What is the point of being an international quidditch player when all the good girls are taken" ~ Krum.
 
Zoo said:
You never miss an opportunity to have a dig.
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It's a fair question in my view.

If you have all this money, why don't you invest a lot more of it in developing and improving your scouting and recruitment systems and network.

For example, I simply don't understand why United let Alli slip through their fingers (for peanuts), but now talk of bidding crazy sums to try and get him. Or, for further example, why let Pogba go and then have to spend a crazy amount to re-acquire him?

Neither of these things would have happened if you'd had first-rate player development, recruitment and scouting systems in place. And if you don't fix it, United will be stuck in an endless cycle of spending big money unnecessarily on new players.
 
1. Break up other team's wage structures.

That should the top priority, but it's unpopular to be so openly ruthless.

But Spurs and Arsenal shouldn't be left alone until their wage structures have at least felt significant pressure due to what we're offering their players.

2. Signing elite players at the top of their game - not retirement approaching players or flakes/cast-offs from other big clubs.
 
GlastonSpur said:
It's a fair question in my view.

If you have all this money, why don't you invest a lot more of it in developing and improving your scouting and recruitment systems and network.

For example, I simply don't understand why United let Alli slip through their fingers (for peanuts), but now talk of bidding crazy sums to try and get him. Or, for further example, why let Pogba go and then have to spend a crazy amount to re-acquire him?

Neither of these things would have happened if you'd had first-rate player development, recruitment and scouting systems in place. And if you don't fix it, United will be stuck in an endless cycle of spending big money unnecessarily on new players.
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We can / should do both really.
I think the article is right, mainly as a good opportunity to be dicks and unsettle your players. I dont think you'll sell
We didn't let pogba go and im happy enough with our youth development tbh. Scouting could probably do with a kick in the ass alright.
 
What's the point of being the richest club in the world ?

we can have a few seasons in transmission, without Champions League, without really noticing the financial impact, whilst still attracting some top named stars.
 
shamans said:
This old school thinking needs to stop now. In the modern game you don't have time. Wait too long, Madrid will snap him up and have a star on their hands. Yes it's a massive risk paying that much for a player but the reason his price has been escalated that high is because everyone knows if he is the real deal a few seasons will be too late for any team to get him. Yeah he could be a total flop, who knows? Point is it's a bit of a rat race now and you don't have the time to be 100 percent sure.
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This is how modern clubs go bankrupt.
 
The point of being the richest club in the world should be that we have the best of EVERYTHING. We should have the best youth facilities, best training facilities, best stadium, best coaching staff, best management and best scouting.

Our issue at the minute is that our geographic rival is currently streets ahead of us - Manchester City are doing incredibly well on all those fronts - though the fruits of their spending won't bud for many years.

competing with that will be difficult but I expect we are well ahead of the rest of the league.
 
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