The point of being the richest club in the world???

MUFC is still a business that needs to balance their books.

£200m would make even the tight cnut Levy sell Kane, but we can't spend that amount on a single player with the deficiencies we have in our squad.

The article fails to adress that Ferguson's splurges often were cherry on the top of the cake type signings added to an already successfull team, that is not where we are at today.
 
At least we are doing well in one area as a club
 
Ramshock said:
Yay another Morata is shit thread by someone who doesnt know how football works
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Where exactly in my post does it say that Morata is shit? I actually think he'd be a good signing. My point is that if we're going to be throwing this money around, and we have history of doing so, why not do it for a guy who's been the top scorer in our own league for three seasons?
 
The article fails to adress that the ultimate goal of a club like Spurs is to win big trophies. Spurs can simply say no to our money as money is not the overshadowing goal of their club.
 
Only sugardaddy clubs can spend and spend fueled by petrodollars. We have to maintain certain fiscal sanity. The prices being quoted nowadays are mad.

Look at nr2 on the rich list, Madrid. They also aren't spending big, and if they do, they'll sell someone to balance the books. Have been doing so for a while. Ditto Barsa.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Now I'm not one for overspending for the sake of it, or getting our pants pulled down over some squad player who suddenly becomes an £80m player, but this article sums up some thoughts about the search for a new striker.

http://www.football365.com/news/morata-belotti-just-go-big-and-flash-for-harry
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I adore the man, but Fergie was not known for splashing the cash quite easily in his latest years. He replaced Tevez and Ronaldo with Owen and Valencia. "No value in the market" was a Fergie catchphrase.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Don't agree or disagree with you but would like your thoughts on our 89mill fee for Pogba?
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Pogba was already touted as one of the best in his position. How is that hard to comprehend? Pogba has proved himself with Juventus yet Mbappe only had 1 good season which the previous one. I am not belittling his talents or whatnot but he really need to be consistent for at least a few seasons to be paid that kind of fee.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
I'd never want us to spend 100m on Kane. You spend that money plus you had better be getting a Neymar or a Suarez level player/talent. Or at the very least Shearer in his prime, which as much as I love Kane, he ain't a prime Shearer.
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If we could get Harry Kane for 100m, we would get him without a doubt. But even at 150m I am not sure if we would be able to get him and hence we aren't even bothering.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Don't agree or disagree with you but would like your thoughts on our 89mill fee for Pogba?
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I had no qualms with it. Pogba is the level of talent that should go for such a price, with a body of proof of more than a season that he is the real deal behind him. Plus when we factor in his age, he can solve a team's issues in that department for a decade, once he fulfill's his undoubted potential, proving a bargain in the long run. I felt the same when Bale went to Real for his fee. And way back when, when Juve broke record to bag Buffon from Parma.
 
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RedCurry said:
If we could get Harry Kane for 100m, we would get him without a doubt. But even at 150m I am not sure if we would be able to get him and hence we aren't even bothering.
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I agree. The juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze. Which is kinda a pity because Kane would truly suit us as a club and Mourinho as a manager.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
I agree. The juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze. Which is kinda a pity because Kane would truly suit us as a club and Mourinho as a manager.
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Yea, he seems like a Spurs lifer at the moment. Of course it can all change if their team starts wobbling. But for now, both Kane and Alli are unattainable. I'd absolutely love to have them at United though.
 
Ramshock said:
Yay another Morata is shit thread by someone who doesnt know how football works
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And you know how football works?
Please tell us, oh wise one. I really really want to know how football works. :p
 
Arthur Friedenreich said:
Transfers are becoming so expensive that developing young players will be the future, like in the past.
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This

It's getting to the point that you can't sign the Morata type players... how hard would it be to develop one?

Most people said of that tielemens kid ... lets see where he is in a few seasons (rather than pay 17m now). He isn't good enough for united right now

In 2 years he'll probably be going to madrid or barce for 120m
 
Instead of Kane, get Dele Alli. He would be the next best thing after Griezmann. If we're being optimistic we could do this:

Morata:£60m
Lindelof:£30m
Fabinho:£40m
Dele Alli:£100m

That's £230m, which might be a bit much for us. Also, Morata might cost more than that. Doesn't feel like we could get him though, at least not this summer.
 
If I ran a football club, with they way the market is going, I would definetly be nurturing or chasing young talent from,say South America-or wherever.
The problem is, most Clubs nowadays are like Instant Noodle packets, and want immediate results.
The bigger clubs are all chasing the same players and this is causing the market to escalate.
It's crazy, the bubble has to burst sometime.
 
Think many of the posters here are missing the point here.

I agree with the op and would say that while united is still a business ultimately its a football business.

In football, business and boldness go hand in hand. I highly doubt clubs like PSG, City, Chelsea and the like have been running at a profit for the last decade and yet if their projects pay off and our club doesn't return to prominence you have to consider two things:

1. Will we still be the richest club in the world? (I doubt it! With all the will in the world Liverpool couldn't get the sort of commercial deals united agree right now because the past is a poor second to the now in marketing)

2. Will any of their fans hold back when mocking us because they lost X billion pounds as a business before they could surpass us? NO!

so yes, United is a business but what the op is saying makes business sense when that business is football.
 
United make the most money. They are far from the richest club in the world
 
Arthur Friedenreich said:
Transfers are becoming so expensive that developing young players will be the future, like in the past.
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Yes, for all top clubs including real Madrid who will have to soon focus in young players and ditch the galactico policy because of the super inflated prices for real top class players.

And still it will be expensive because even young kids are being sold for millions. Real just spent 38 m on a 16 year old kid now who will not make their first team for long ,whichwill inflate the youth market right at the very initial stage.

United's policy with sir Alex Ferguson of budding young players through academy and turning them to world class and keep the pipeline going has taken a hit after his retirement because of the unstabilities at the top in management and change in Philosophies, but long term we have to keep our traditions going and be very effective and focussed in that area and level up our scouting and become decisive in that area to keep our overall spending down an yet keep the quality of the squad intact.

We have been guilty of top potentials slipping through our net and gaining and developing in other clubs who has done far more better in that market than us. Tott and saints for example. And also many young european talents have slipped through our net in initial stages it their career who are having top dollar price tag on them and are better players than our some squad members.

Complete restructuring is required at ground level and dedicated hard work required to stay a club which sir Alex built to a global power house in his leadership.

Reaching to top is easy, staying top is another thing and for united to stay top we have to be very very effective in recruitment and youth policy in long term prospects.
 
Tiber said:
United make the most money. They are far from the richest club in the world
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Highest value, most revenue as well and operating income was top or near the top too.

We're certainly up there through every metric possible. Don't know how you can say we're far from it, unless I'm completely missing something.
 
Tottenham don't need to sell. We'd have to deal with Levy.

Kane himself also seems quite happy there.

It's not easy nicking players off Premier League clubs when they've so much money now.
 
United has historically and should always gun for the best British talent. It is in the dna.
 
Why on earth would Spurs sell at any price? Without Kane they would struggle to make top 4. A few seasons without UCL money would soon eat up a large slice of whatever fee they managed to extract from us.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Highest value, most revenue as well and operating income was top or near the top too.

We're certainly up there through every metric possible. Don't know how you can say we're far from it, unless I'm completely missing something.
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He's probably meaning that we're not the richest because the owners of City and PSG are richer. But then we're not comparing clubs, we're comparing rich people.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
This

It's getting to the point that you can't sign the Morata type players... how hard would it be to develop one?

Most people said of that tielemens kid ... lets see where he is in a few seasons (rather than pay 17m now). He isn't good enough for united right now

In 2 years he'll probably be going to madrid or barce for 120m
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I think clubs need at least to specialize in some positions; i mean, of course its hard to find wc ATTACKING players; you need thousands players to find a wc winger, CF....but the big clubs should be able to form their own DMs, full backs, goalkeepers..
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
I'd never want us to spend 100m on Kane. You spend that money plus you had better be getting a Neymar or a Suarez level player/talent. Or at the very least Shearer in his prime, which as much as I love Kane, he ain't a prime Shearer.
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Have you being living under a rock? Transfers this summer have been outrageous!
 
Arthur Friedenreich said:
Transfers are becoming so expensive that developing young players will be the future, like in the past.
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Transfers have been rising in line with the Football Industry. In real terms transfer prices have remained stable for many many years. Veron was a greater percentage of revenue than Pogba. Rooney was bought for 10% of our revenue at the time which would be about £60 million now.
Can you imagine if an 18 year old Rooney came onto the seen now and performed like Mbappe did this season...he would be going for £100 million.

The new TV deal has meant all english clubs can now spend an extra £10 million on a player just because they dont know what to do with the money.

Transfers havent become expensive, they are effectively at a similar level to 10 years ago because clubs have more money.
 
breakout67 said:
Transfers have been rising in line with the Football Industry. In real terms transfer prices have remained stable for many many years. Veron was a greater percentage of revenue than Pogba. Rooney was bought for 10% of our revenue at the time which would be about £60 million now.
Can you imagine if an 18 year old Rooney came onto the seen now and performed like Mbappe did this season...he would be going for £100 million.

The new TV deal has meant all english clubs can now spend an extra £10 million on a player just because they dont know what to do with the money.

Transfers havent become expensive, they are effectively at a similar level to 10 years ago because clubs have more money.
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Well reasoned, what we paid for Veron and ferdinand at the time was massive.
 
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