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The Overlap - Wayne Rooney
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I think the city talk was more media driven than anything else. After he signed his new contract Rooney did an interview with Paddy Crerand and said it was either Madrid or Barcelona if he left. His story has never changed.
Rooney had his best season numbers wise in 2011/12, 27 league goals and 34 all in, in fewer games than when also scoring 34 2 seasons earlier.
As I remember it he scored a lot of pens that year compared to 2010 where he was absolutely amazing at scoring as well as in play in and out of possession. 11/12 as it wore on was the start of unreliable first touch, sluggish compared to younger years Rooney
Same here. I hated him for that and really turned against him in the later years.
Now, I respect him even more for that decision. He was 100% right and Fergie was wrong to protect the Glazers with that No Value in the market bullshit.
Robben and Sneijder went for less than £35m combined.
Ibra went to Milan for around £20m.
So, for just over half the Ronaldo fee, we could've been the best side in the world again.
Instead, we got the likes of Valencia and Owen. Still boils my blood to this day.
Remembering of course, that we overpaid for fellaini, literally, and he gave us a few elbows, and some afro headers. Worst buy this club has ever made. Moyes " we aspire to be like Manchester city". That shit infuriated me. No we feckin don't. We aspire to be the team we once were.
Fellaini gave us 2-3 decent seasons, and was very good at times in them. I also respect him and Young for bouncing back from the shit they got under Moyes to become vital players the next season. Antony is the worst signing the club has ever made imo.
Antony is the worst signing the club has ever made imo
Get real with this Antony hating - it's getting old already. Really tiring lazy and boring, the fact you think Fellaini came good says it all.
We have made some buzzing signings, and Antony comes nowhere near the top of the list. Nowhere near
Who was worse than Antony for 86m?!
I wouldn't say Fellaini "made it" but he proved very useful often in his time. Certainly nowhere near as bad a signing as someone like Schneiderlin or VDB.
He's the worst signing we've made.
One of our best players ever.
We all know he let his body go somewhat and did not have the self discipline as your Ibras or Ronaldo, but…..
To play at the level he did, higher than most other players ever reaches, for the time he did, longer than most other players lasts, is incredible really. What a player.
We all know he let his body go somewhat and did not have the self discipline as your Ibras or Ronaldo, but…..
To play at the level he did, higher than most other players ever reaches, for the time he did, longer than most other players lasts, is incredible really. What a player.
I agree with most of that.
I would have enjoyed it even more if I could have understood a word he was saying. I did laugh at him bringing up Rebekah Vardy as why he fancies a new career in law though.
Really interested to see who is on this list
Maguire, Antony, Sancho, Mount. The four horsemen of shit football
Fair enough. Each to their own.
I agree about Anthony, apart from his spinny shit, and cutting back early from the right, what have the Romans ever done for us? I mean Anthony.
Not sure what "buzzing" means here, but who on earth do you think has been a pound for pound worse signing?
His own manager decided to play a clearly miles off pace Forson and even Amad ahead of him at the weekend.
Only bringing him at all because Lindelof got injured on 99.
He can barely risk a huge value signing when desperate against a poor Fulham team. That's scandalous.
Buzzing = mint. Tiptop.
None of your points negates that fact that he saw the rot coming either.
In hindsight, it's completely understandable that he was looking for a way out
Maguire has at least had a couple of weeks seasons of strong form.
None of the others have had more than a couple of good halves.
In general maybe, but he's saying we've made some signings worse than Antony.
So you rate the whole piano man Sanchez and those costs as less worse then this?
For the love of god, can we forget Sanchez, We're all trying to move on, mentally, and physically.
Fellaini is far from the worst signing this club has made. Gave his all in every game and scored some really important goals. Fans just give him more shit than others just because of how he looked. The guy was borderline bullied at times.
Sancho, VDB, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Sanchez, Bebe, Kleberson, Depay, and Antony were all much worse signings.
Antony is the worst signing we've made - couldn't be more clear in my opinion.
Paying above Fellaini's buyout clause fee because we didn't want to pay the buyout clause fee is still up there as arguably the dumbest thing we've done post Ferguson. I don't understand how Woodward wasn't immediately sacked for that.
Imagine going to your boss and explaining you've just cost him millions of pounds because you don't know how to haggle and accidentally on purpose ended up ripping yourself off.
If he was sacked there and then it would probably have solved quite a lot of the problems we've had since.
He was pretty awful and came to symbolise everything that we were doing wrong. Although do agree he also got a lot of unfair stick. That pre-season game where he kept getting booed and sarcastically cheered and then ended up scoring the winner right at the end after actually being the MOTM was a high end cringe moment.
The main thing though is that Woodward signed him 2 months too late and somehow negotiated his way into paying above his buyout clause in the process...and then was allowed to be in charge of fee and contract negotiations for about another 16 transfer windows after that.
Sanchez had higher expectations, but you can't ignore 80m+ on Antony. That was ludicrous.
He was part of the rot.
Yes Rooney was at fault that we filled up the squad with proper shit players.
Even at his last legs he was a much more worthy player for the shirt than the likes of Pogba and Lingard.
Then he should have been allowed to leave. He had no hand in replacing world class players with much less quality. And if he was no longer at the required level, surely the best thing was to get rid?
Very well said.
Not really as simple as that is it? At the time of the contract dispute he was still a top player. The same can’t be said for his last four years at the club. Hence him being part of the rot.
Oh so you're saying by the time he noticed that we were sliding and requested to leave, he was still a top player?
In which case, it made sense for him to want to leave when he noticed the drop in quality around him - he would not have foreseen his own impending decline, however, "no value in the market" was becoming a very common phrase.
The fact that he did actually decline doesn't make it any less of a valid concern
If you consider the transfer fees, Antony and Sancho have to be amongst the worst signings we've ever made in our history.
Rooney is one of my favorite ever players, and an absolute world class player in his prime. Also one of the players that made me fall in love with United and football altogether. I'd go as far as saying that his 18/19 year old version is also one of the greatest teenagers we've ever seen, similar to Messi or Ronaldo Nazario.
However, he was definitely way past it by 2013/2014. Had we sold him in 2013 or even 2012, I don't think much would've changed in the next few years. We would've probably been better off playing Kagawa or Mata in his position. I was very relieved when José came in and Rooney was benched within a few games into the season.
It doesn’t but the point is that when it comes to being unprofessional I would suggest putting no effort into staying in shape ranks a little higher than dancing. Refusing to stay in shape while being considered a key player was part of the decline.
He's quietly brilliant as a media guest. He understands football so well and doesn't overshare any unnecessary opinions. It was the same that time he appeared on Sky Sports.
This was probably my favourite episode that wasn't the quiz
This was probably my favourite episode that wasn't the quiz
From this interview, and those from Rio's Youtube Channel in chats with Evra, Vidic and such, you can clearly see that some players hold a grudge with respect and even acknowledging their own wrong doings against Ferguson. Becks, Rooney and Keane as examples, while others like Neville it's almost like a fanboy of Alex.
It tends to happen at any club that the more talented players tend to clash with strong and stubborn coaches, with mostly none of the sides being entirely right.
Yet at some point, leaving players Ego's aside and their own wrong doings, I think that Ferguson also was so acostume to his extreme power that he started to take decisions that affected United till today.
It's incredible how many times from Evra, to Rooney, Rio mentioned that the whole Cristiano transfer and Tevez saga was a turning point, no matter winning titles afterwards.
It's like they do not dare to fully say it, but they felt that he kind of dissasembly a truly well oiled CHAMPIONS locker room, while reinforcing United local and European rivals.
It tends to happen at any club that the more talented players tend to clash with strong and stubborn coaches, with mostly none of the sides being entirely right.
Yet at some point, leaving players Ego's aside and their own wrong doings, I think that Ferguson also was so acostume to his extreme power that he started to take decisions that affected United till today.
It's incredible how many times from Evra, to Rooney, Rio mentioned that the whole Cristiano transfer and Tevez saga was a turning point, no matter winning titles afterwards.
It's like they do not dare to fully say it, but they felt that he kind of dissasembly a truly well oiled CHAMPIONS locker room, while reinforcing United local and European rivals.