The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%

  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%

  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%
  • Total voters
    2,977
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Mourinho is not a horrible manager. When he says he doesn't have the right players he's not wrong. His success in the past has been built on players dying for him on the pitch. The squad that we have now isn't a squad that dies on the pitch for their manager. They want to and need to play different kind of football. Mourinho failed to bring in the right players for him and the players failed, or more correctly he failed to acclamate to the squad.

When the club extended Mourinho's contract and claiming "he's the right manager for Manchester United" they were simply wrong. We know that now. Everyone knows that now. People were right to be hopeful to begin with even though they knew that we weren't going to get Alex Ferguson styled attacking football. If we had gotten Inter football, a team that leaves everything on the pitch and wins, sometimes even with good football (all of his teams certainly played good football for periods) then we wouldn't be moaning as we would be winning or at least contending but as it stands we aren't close and in fact we've regressed and it's clear that the squad and the manager don't mesh.

I want Mourinho gone now, I didn't want him gone 2 months ago because I knew that it was early days despite the rough start, the team did have an awful pre-season for various reasons but it should not have become this bad. I do think that a big part of the blame lies with the players as well because after all they are the ones that just need to play football which I imagine they are capable of doing in training at least. I also am not a big fan of Edward Woodward. It used to be cute that he got us all these partnership and keeping us on the world stage as a mammoth club commercially despite having lost success on the pitch but he should not be in charge of footballing aspects. We need someone that's allowed a budget who works with the manager full time to attain the right players for the team. He's not it. He just doesn't have the know-how.

Our players aren't shit. They're not as good as City's and they don't play as well together as Liverpool's players but they should be able to perform a lot better and we need someone else now that can figure out how. I don't know who that could possibly be but whoever it will be I don't except him to turn it around immediately. Just give the FA Cup and CL a proper go and focus on enjoying football in the league and give us some goals.
 
dwd said:
They do it via the app now, they push that medium a lot more than Twitter since it's newer. He's staying.
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The Twitter comment is one line.
What about the other lacking stuff?
Could be something to it. Or maybe we were so crap no-one has any appetite for it
 
Sandikan said:
The Twitter comment is one line.
What about the other lacking stuff?
Could be something to it. Or maybe we were so crap no-one has any appetite for it
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I got an alert from the app three hours ago ‘Mourinho has delivered his honest assessment of today’s match at Liverpool’. Don’t think it means anything that it hasn’t been put on Twitter too.
 
I wonder if part of his moaning and general meltdown this season was kickstarted by Guardiola receiving all the praise for City's record-breaking season. Actually, I have no doubt it must have hurt Mourinho.
 
slir32 said:
They will not sack him until they have the next long term manager in place. It's obviously not Zidane or else he would be here by now. They must be going for Poch which can only be done end of season.
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As much as I'd love to have Pochettino at United (and I really really want him here, I've even wanted him instead of Mourinho the first time round), that just seems like a stupid idea. We are going to effectively throw away this season, just so we can go for a manager that we very possibly might not even be able to get. It's like the Varane love in Woodward had in the summer TW.
 
Sacking Mourinho which I agree needs to be done, will only be the beginning. The rebuilding is going to take time.
We have players there that are not good enough to play for us.

We have a board that is clueless about football. We have so much to do. The fall from 2013 has been unbelievable.

So far down in such a short time.
 
Snafu17 said:
As much as I'd love to have Pochettino at United (and I really really want him here, I've even wanted him instead of Mourinho the first time round), that just seems like a stupid idea. We are going to effectively throw away this season, just so we can go for a manager that we very possibly might not even be able to get. It's like the Varane love in Woodward had in the summer TW.
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Well the club should know if they can get him 100% or not. If they can get him 100% buy paying out his contract do it i am not sure on the legal issues but if they can't and Zidane for example wants the job then get him in here now.
 
VorZakone said:
I wonder if part of his moaning and general meltdown this season was kickstarted by Guardiola receiving all the praise for City's record-breaking season. Actually, I have no doubt it must have hurt Mourinho.
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Because he's an insecure small man - Jose Is always worrying about what other people are doing.
 
I’m sure the owners and Woodward are thinking why should they keep Jose and give him more money. He’s left a 50m player out of the squad and left a 90m player on the bench for one of the biggest annual matches. Not exactly promoting himself in a positive manor.
 
Minimalist said:
Got around to watching the post match discussion with Neville, Keane, Souness etc.

Neville really does sound like a clown now.

He’s claiming the contract extension was a mistake and he said so at the time? Don’t remember that.

He’s genuinely comparing Mourinho to Guardiola like as if there’s not a major difference in style and entertainment from the two.

Lost the plot.
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Yeah I don't remember him saying any of that either. He's a bit too wise after the fact for someone who vehemently defended Mourinho at the time of the Newcastle game when there was the report saying he would be sacked.

Keane and Neville also seemed to suggest we shouldn't sack him yet in fear of fecking up the next appointment which seems incredibly backwards to me.
 
Not sure how much longer myself and the majority of our fans can deal with this.

I'm ok with us being bad. Moyes frustrated me Lvg bored me and I wanted them gone but what Jose is doing is simply not ok. I hate the man!
 
AndyJ1985 said:
We're lucky that Everton, Bournemouth, and Leicester have been woeful recently. Although Wolves have moved to within a point of us.
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In fairness we are only five points better than Brighton in 13th, & eleven points (12 with goal difference) behind Chelsea in 4th. I think there is more chance of falling downwards than catching the teams above.
 
I think Ed hasnt got the backbone to sack this clown and will wait until his contract dictates it (i.e top missing top four).

The only hope i can take from that is because the season is now a write off preparation to turn this mess around is being made. I.e proper manager and dof.

The trouble is, with Ed such a tool, I doubt it and i fear we will just start this cycle again.
 
The single worst performance I have seen in all my time watching United and against Liverpool to boot. I have watched us play shit but at least try to win the game. Today the game was conceded since the first second against our biggest rivals. When he came to England he won at Chelsea as the antithesis of Ferguson and now he has proven that that's who he is. I'd rather lose 10-0 against Liverpool being set up to attack than what I saw today and since long before Sevilla. I'll wear the 'knee-jerker' tag with pride because, even though we came back in the 2nd half of that game, the rot was apparent long before then. I will never take any place in the League while watching us play such shite football. We have a reputation to uphold and the real 'specialist in failure' has finished destroying it beyond belief. At least Wenger was admirable for never stooping to the level of football this joke has built his career on no matter how many were calling for his head.

Once upon a time every player brought here was made fully aware of the history of this club and their duty to uphold it and now we are led by someone who couldn't grasp it if it was dangled in front of his face. United haven't always been successful but we've always strived to go at teams no matter what circumstances we faced. Today we truly lost all identity of what this club has stood for.
 
Unbelievable slow and sad football.

Tactics and attitude all wrong.

Time is up but we all know Ed doesn’t have the balls
 
Judge Red said:
Pogba to leave in January and Mourinho still here?

Happy new year.
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Pogba can do one aswell for all I care. Its shambolic the state of that guy. Mourinho is right Pogba hasnt been playing for this team for a long while now. The players really have let the fans, club and themselves down. Is Mou to blame yes no doubting that but Pogba isnt helping himself, I couldnt care less if he left with Mourinho.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Be nice, but doubt they'll sack him half way through the season when they didn't with Moyes and Van Gaal.

Was 6 for Moyes and 8 for Van Gaal
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True, but under Jose, we are officially worse off now than at any point during his predecessor's reigns. We're heading directly for a midtable position and our form is a fair reflection of that.

He should have been sacked months ago, that he is still here defies all logic.
 
Red Dreams said:
Sacking Mourinho which I agree needs to be done, will only be the beginning. The rebuilding is going to take time.
We have players there that are not good enough to play for us.

We have a board that is clueless about football. We have so much to do. The fall from 2013 has been unbelievable.

So far down in such a short time.
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Our squad is better than 2013. We just need to catch up with the good football being played everywhere but here.
 
arthurka said:
Pogba can do one aswell for all I care. Its shambolic the state of that guy. Mourinho is right Pogba hasnt been playing for this team for a long while now. The players really have let the fans, club and themselves down. Is Mou to blame yes no doubting that but Pogba isnt helping himself, I couldnt care less if he left with Mourinho.
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Selling Pogba just makes the rebuild twice as hard. We are hardly going to buy Toni Kroos.
 
According to the stats the last time Liverpool had 19 point advantage over us at this stage of the season was 46 years ago. Obviously doesn't count the year we were holidaying in the Second Division. Let that sink in. Mourinho is certainly breaking all the records.
 
He's here until CL is out of reach, although it would take sudden title winning form from us to reach it. We're whipping boys this season, 0-3 to Spurs 3-1 at Anfield and Etihad. 6th is all we will achieve and even that isn't a given. Madness that we're watching the team rot away like this.
 
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