The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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The financial advantage Madrid had is over now, it's not possible for them to get all the best players as they are now competing with more than 1 team like before; today they have to outspend the like of PSG, City, United and not only Barca to get their players, there are already players who have turned them down for other clubs (Mbappe, Pogba, Neymar, Falcao). Football has changed and is still changing. In the past many players would have chose Madrid because they were the one offering more money, the prestige thing was possible because of the huge wages and fees they could afford but this is no more the case. Pochettinho for one is a recent example of a manager who turned them down. Madrid will struggle for the next few years like many other teams.
Without money there's no prestige. United got the like of Di Maria and Pogba without even CL football to show.
feck it, can’t be worse than Jose.
Am tempted to agree with this, but he is done anyway, soon he will be history. I think his days art the top is over.
Is this the monorail sketch from Simpsons? Classic episode.
I don't remember talking about their financial advantage, in fact that makes you favor choosing Madrid job more as I said, they're competing with 1 team with same financial budget as them than competing with 5 one of them having oil money. Worst season for Madrid is to finish 2nd or 3rd and got eliminated from QF in CL, while in United if we go on and buy 5 new players this summer there's still pretty good chance we'll finish 3rd or 4th at best thanks to the strong competition and fact that you have 5 other big teams strengthening and signing big players as well, and all aiming for league title. Zero guarantee for success, in fact zero guarantee for top 4 itself whatever you do, unlike in Spain. Look at Chelsea, after all this drooling over Sarri there's still a pretty good chance they're going to miss on top 4, currently 4th only thanks to GD.
United had been a great job when SAF retired, league champions, way ahead of the others and dominating the country. Now it's just a poison chalice. No manager can be confident about succeeding here for various reasons, strength of the league and number of teams competing are on top of it, unless you're going to decrease the expectation to top 4 finish and unique league titles every some years. Nothing guaranteed. In Spain you know what you're getting with Madrid at least.
The only job I'll say it's a dream in England now is City, otherwise, they're all equal and nothing in them make you take them over Madrid if you're offered Madrid job.
Oh and Madrid aren't going to struggle any time soon. One top goal scorer and they'll back again in no time.
No but seriously at the exception of a couple of lame sources claiming that Mourinho was thinking about resigning(I think that I saw a title from the Daily Star). I don't think that there has been any solid rumours that would lead to an official comment from Mendes.
I don't think Mourinho would ever resign, he'd see it as letting the press/players/doubters get the best of him. He will have to either be fired or simply play out his contract. I just can't see it any other way.
Last time I checked their league table they were 5th and there's a big chance they miss on top 4; I don't remember them being in the same state for the last 20 years. Before Mourinho they didn't have great players but were still able to challenge for the title but this season they are struggling, that's because they are no longer in a position to always strengthening their team with the best players because now best players are spread around many clubs.
United are still able to outspend everyone bar City, I don't know what you're talking about here. United struggles are due to bad choice of managers, nothing to do with money. Last season when Mourinho did a semblance of job, we easily got 2nd behind a super City team coaching by one of the best coach around; this season we're struggling because our idiot of manager tried to prove a point and is now showing his incompetence. With a proper manager and with our financial muscles I bet my house that we can give a good challenge for the league. We're not a poison chalice, don't let LVG and Mourinho's incompetence fool you.
Madrid may comeback to challenge in their league, but they'll no longer be a safe bet for the first 3 places. They may find a good goal scorer but they'll no longer have an easy ride; they may even lose their target to other clubs like United, City and PSG.
This deserves its own thread if you ask me.
Bit of a dick move by Mendes if the club or Jose didn't know. Not sure what it would add too. It's not like we can't fire him anymore after this statement.
I disagree, Liverpool are challenging for top honours having been in a worse state than ours before Klopp who has spent less money than Jose . This thing about clubs being in such a bad state that they need years to get competitve again is never really true and has been disproved time and time again,especially with big clubs like ours. A good manager who knows what the hell he's doing will get us challenging after one good window. The difference between us and City as far as I'm concerned is not money, they just buy players that work out well for them while we've spent the last 5 years buying duds under 2 crap managers. A good manager with our level of financial backing will put us back on track immediately
Dont worry, Ed will have another toothpaste deal lined up next week to boost the coffers
Are we really to believe that the board are 'happy' with Jose Mourinho's management of the club?
Oh don't say the board is happy with him or with where we are. I don't even want to think about if they are remotely happy.
I don't believe the board are happy. If they are we're in deep deep trouble.
Absolutely no way our management is happy with Jose. As clueless as they are, they are surely not that stupid.
No, but Mendes is putting pressure on them.
Plot-twist: Woodward and the Glazers are closet scousers.
"Jose Mourinho we want you to stay" will be the oppo chant from now on.
You only hear these statements when the board are unhappy.
Hell, City needed only three years from their takeover to win the league (I know they were taken over in 2008 but that was on the last day of the transfer window).
Maybe they are, I mean, all our news in the media always seems accurate. If they weren't happy, we'd know about it.
Arsenal were singing it on Wednesday.
Of course they are unhappy, but they wouldn’t publicly state it to the media.
Agent in making claim to preserve interest of client shocker
Madrid are 5 points away from the top.
We're not actually over spending anyone anymore. Liverpool and Chelsea have been spending as much as us or even more the last 2 years. We're not richer than anyone. I don't get from when this claim has been. All clubs around us have loads of money to spend thanks to the annual TV money alone. It's just up to any club to spend or not, not that they don't have money to spend. Our financial "power" is heavily overrated thanks to some idiotic comments from Woodward some years ago.
And finally, we got second with 19 points away from the top. We weren't challenging for the league. The point is still on, you can't guarantee any success here or at any English team otherwise you have to be deluded. It's not just us being shite it's thanks to the competitive state of the league and that all teams around you are at the same time. Again, look at Sarri, great manager and they are having a good season and there's a big chance they're going to miss top 4 with Arsenal on their trail. Even if we go on and buy 5 players this summer, the rest of the teams are going to buy and improve their squads as much as yours and you can't guarantee you're going to do better than them.
I've never seen an agent coming out with such a statement. I wonder what's happened behind the scenes?
Claiming the club are happy with him
Honestly, Mendes and Jose are bloody extra. Can't wait for the soap opera to end. Pity Mendes is also De Gea's agent as I don't want us to have anything to do with him or Riaola again.
Claiming the club are happy with him
Honestly, Mendes and Jose are bloody extra. Can't wait for the soap opera to end. Pity Mendes is also De Gea's agent as I don't want us to have anything to do with him or Riaola again.Of course the board is not happy.
That is the statement from an agent that knows his client is sinking.
The way you say that is interesting. Do you think that the agent did it after consulting his client or he did it autonomously?
Feck the board and feck jose, all a bunch of useless cnuts.
Mendes: Ed, the situation is becoming grim
Ed:...
Mendes: You need to announce Jose has your full support and the boards full confidence
Ed:...
Mendes: If you wont I will
Ed:...
Ed:...
Mendes: You need to announce Jose has your full support and the boards full confidence
Ed:...
Mendes: If you wont I will
Ed:...
Ed should just leak to his usual journo that the board didn't say they are happy and that they are currently assessing how our season is going.
Let the shit flinging begin.
Let the shit flinging begin.
Jose remains fully committed to his £20m
Now that would be a twist to end all twists, and I've seen Saw!
Do you really believe this shite? Everyone know that United aren't happy with how things are going. Having said that Mou would only leave if he's given his 20m and the club isn't willing to get him off the hook. He'll stay at United up until we're out of the CL zone and he'll get fired.
I've changed my mind lads. I want us to support Jose 100%. Every player that drops effort. I want to give him free reign to fire out the door. Call me insane. I've had a drink and I'm sick to the stomach of players thinking thats ok. I want to see the day no player comes here for big wages without knowing it comes with killing yourself for the cause. Jose or no Jose. I want that to be the known standard of the club. Huge payers for the men that can sacrifice themselves for the team. I love the romance of that. Come get me.........
You're insane.
I can't imagine it would be autonomous. But don't necessarily believe it was at Mourinho's request either.
Mourinho being seen to be running away looks bad on him. I think that's the narrative the want to fight again.
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