It's Rio as well saying about how the players are performing and maybe they should have a look at themselves. Wonder if Rio and Co had a look at themselves when Moyes was here.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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That’s wrong. Stupid as well.
Plenty of posters admit they had wrong thoughts before.
Hell many of us are admitting we wanted Mourinho in the first place.
To be fair I've seen more people admitting they were wrong (about Jose) in the last few days than I have on here for many many years.
Wait, are you literally saying that Neville has never admitted he's been wrong?
He needs to shut up. We've appointed 3 dinosaur managers in a row. The mess started when we hired Moyes, not sacked him. If you want to blame the board blame them for hiring these managers who don't fit our style.
Let him finish the season. We need to be more patient for the longer run.
Sack him and use this season as a transitional season to get our club in order. Give the caretaker job to carrick and/or mckenna and bring in a DOF to organise things before the summer. Plan our next manager to bring in at the end of the season who is a right fit inline with attacking football and what the DOF identifies.
We cant keep on in this cycle, something has to give
We cant keep on in this cycle, something has to give
Why? What good does it do the next manager coming in for us to finish midtable? So they don't have the Europa League to worry about?
Apparently Fergie had left a list of players that he felt needed moving on and who he felt Moyes needed. I’m sure it’s Moyes that put this information out there as well and I think most sensible people could see that team was on its last legs and Fergie pretty much worked a miracle the season before.
That summer transfer window was the nail being put in the coffin, chasing windmills instead of making the obvious and easy signings that were there,
I was happy when he came to the club. I voted to give him to the end of the season and see how it goes. I have changed my vote to wanting him out. I am seriously worried about how this could go, even if we change the manager. Our club is being plunged into a dark chasm.
Top 4 isn't out of Jose's reach just yet though.
Of anything significant? Not that I can remember.
Feel free to link me to articles or comments he’s made suggesting that.
This is the same man who made a bizarre rant on MNF about the fact we call it a cappuccino instead of a ‘milky coffee’ (since that’s what it was when he grew up).
Think we need to get someone in and just write this season off, let him assess what we have, work out how we will play and plan which players to bring in. Preferably with a DOF.
You know, a bit of planning and forward thinking for a change.
Maybe by booing to all players in next game? They doesn’t deserve anything else than that.
For me it's not about about being title challengers and Champions League favorites at the moment. It's about getting a manager in who'll bring happiness, cohesion, togetherness, bravery, and a modern approach to our game. I wouldn't mind finishing 4th, 5th or even 7th for that matter if I felt like our manager were on the path to building something strong and solid. It's so heart-aching to see how divided and unsettled our team is. I want our team to start represent something positive. All this negativity is killing me.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gary-neville-admits-wrong-monstrous-13079681Of anything significant? Not that I can remember.
Feel free to link me to articles or comments he’s made suggesting that.
This is the same man who made a bizarre rant on MNF about the fact we call it a cappuccino instead of a ‘milky coffee’ (since that’s what it was when he grew up).
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...United-Juan-Mata-Jose-Mourinho-Premier-League
https://www.footballinsider247.com/...l-player-he-didnt-rate-and-names-him-in-tots/
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/g...ollowing-criticism-of-liverpool-player-153391
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ll-news/man-city-gary-neville-united-14540806
https://www.offthepost.info/blog/20...s-wrong-over-man-utd-new-boy-anthony-martial/
https://www.thesportreview.com/2017/09/man-united-news-latest-antonio-valencia-update/
I am surprised it hasn’t got higher; mind you I suspect a big chunk of the 12.5% are non-Utd supporters who can be the only ones happy to see the current malaise!
That United way died a long time ago. It's a results business. Mourinho did well to win us two trophies in his first season and get us our best finish since Fergie retired but look where we are now, falling behind the other top six teams and Mourinho and the players just don't look up to anymore. We need a change and I know damn well that this isn't all on Mourinho. The incompetent board are to blame for this mess too.
What will that do except help us lose another game? Jose is doing his best to make us lose without the fans giving him a helping hand.
And even that's optimistic given Mourinho's recent record at Chelsea. They were barely above the relegation zone when he was sacked.
And some posters here want Neville to be our sporting director quite baffling to be honest.
Shock horror...footballer laying all blame on owners rather then fellow professionals!! Maybe somebody ought to give Gary a rundown of Moyes’ post-Utd performance to give him a dose of reality!
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/lvg-out-thread-bbc-sacked.412212/
Similar numbers to the Mourinho poll.
Fair enough.
The actual quotes in most of those articles aren’t quite what the titles suggest though.
Also not being a dick here but rating players/managers (whether they are good enough) isn’t what I’m talking about. I’m talking about now he sees the game and how football should conduct itself at a club and wider level. As a pundit now - him saying a player is good/crap is kind of the easy stuff.
It was a bit ironic that it was mentioned in the commentary that Mourinho criticised Arnautovic for his childish attitude during their time together at Inter Milan, considering his own behaviour just now.
The more I read this, the more it seems you agree with Gary.
"Needs to shut up" sounds very disrespectful of somebody that has forgotten more about this club than most of us know.
I would rather see players who wants to play for the club and lose than see those greedy feckers. U-18 would show more passion.
Thanks, buddy
I hope we don't have to wait for 700 pages this time!
Interesting reading that thread than LvG was also complaining about the board failing to sign the players he wanted after we won the FA Cup.
Of course they can. We aren't THAT far away.
Klopp improved Liverpool, Sarri has improved a Chelsea that played average football last year, now they look as good as City/Liverpool.
We have plenty of good players. they just need proper attacking coaching and team cohesion. This team is NOT a team, it's so obvious.
Look at what Derby / Wolves did with much less talent and money? how can they outplay us so easily?. It's coaching plain and simple.
Totally agree. Let’s start behaving like a proper football club for a change. Chinless needs to act now.
Sad to say I have changed my mind. After the Europa League, league cup and 2nd place, I thought we were starting to build something. It's not working and we actually seem as bad as when he took over now.
I think you are over doing it saying that Chelsea look as good as City/Liverpool. They, like the other two, have had a good start, but City are a lot better than both unfortunately and over a season, that will become apparent. That said, I agree with your point. New managers can improve short term form. However, the emphasis is on ‘short term’. Mourinho is a proven winner and short term downturns do not change that undeniable fact. We need to stick with him. It’s hard at the moment, particularly for those who’ve been spoiled for most of their lives who have to listen to City fans on tv chanting ‘Jose Mourinho, we want you to stay’. However, I’m convinced that in due course, Jose will ram it down their throats.
Top 4 isn't out of reach, but can you mention a thing that points to us getting there?
Looks like the last bag on the luggage carousel that no one wants to pick up
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