The Manchester Title Race

The thing is the Wigan performance was not really a one off. The QPR and Blackburn, we were poor. Yes we dominated, but that was down to Blackburn and QPR playing for damage limitation. I think if they came at us like Wigan did, then it would be the same situation. It took De Gea to stop Blackburn going ahead a few times.

Villa we should win, but we'll make it hard for ourselves. If we carry on as we've done recently against Everton and City. We will deffo lose those games.

No one can control how you think and what you want to believe. If focusing on those failure you mentioned makes you comfortable rather than having some faith, it's your prerogative. Don't expect those mentality to affect us positive thinkers.... :)

In all seriousiness, why on earth people are not happy with our lead with only 5 games to play, when we are in the driving seat. We can control how we play, whereas City cannot control the outcome of our games. Like Joga said above, it's all about having control.

To say we will defo lose games if we continue to play piss poor is a sad thinking. Two negatives we don't need... Rid of those thinking and do some maths. Start believing we won't throw away the lead voluntarily. What city has achieved 6-0 or 10-0 is beyond our control but they don't matter if we focus on our own games. We are in total control in avoiding being overtaken, whereas City can do feck all to narrow the gap or overtaking us even they win all remaining games. We are calling the shot, not them.

Every sane person wants to be in our shoes, not theirs.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

I will be able to agree with you soon, I hope :)

At the moment I am too uncharacteriscally nervous
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

Because football is all about Psychology and dealing with pressure. Suddenly City have nothing to lose and we have just lost 3 points in a game many thought was very winnable. Not to mention that we still have to play City. Apart from the 5 point advantage, our biggest advantage of City is the fact that we have so many winners who have been through this process time and time again and more often than not we ended up champions.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

Spot on, this is what makes football great, the tension, the drama, twists and turns......loving it
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

From my point of view, I'll happily admit that I don't handle the pressure well at all. It's one of the myriad reasons I didn't become a professional footballer!

Good post though Sults, and you're spot on - we should be focusing on how we've been largely good in the league this season and deserve real credit for being ahead of such a rich City squad.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

Quite right - it's meant to be tough at the top of the supposed "best league in the world". If we do win it, it will give me more satisfaction than most of our previous 19. If we don't, the only disgrace will be losing that eight point lead!
 
I'm going to have to disagree there, Sultan! I wish we had won it in February, if at all possible. This is more exciting, sure, but it also means we could end up not winning it. And losing the title race to Manchester City is not something I would like... at all.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

The problem is that these, 'very few failures' all occurred in the same manor. i.e. teams playing the 11 utd players on the pitch rather than the utd reputation. This leading to them, pressing us all over the pitch and attacking us, rather than sitting deep and inviting us on. Even teams with average players have had success with this tactic and this is the concern.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

You said it all in your first line

The tension,the heartache if villa score first,the relief WHEN United score first
watching the clock tick down ,faster if we are behind,slower WHEN we are winning,You cant buy this type of excitement
after the wigan game i couldnt sleep at all ,the only thought i had was the villa game ,ive got to service my transit so i cant have a beer for a few hours or i would have hit it already
 
I would love to have another PL season like in 99/00 or 00/01 and we having won the title in February.
 
This is pure theatre.

I'd much rather have it this way than winning the league with 5 games remaining. I also don't understand fans focusing on United's very few failures, rather than giving the team credit for being in a better position than one of the costliest assembled teams in the world.

If this post had a vagina, I'd try to make it have kids.
 
Didn't know where to post this, but it had to be shared!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/14/sir-alex-ferguson-title-race

Sir Alex Ferguson intends to play it safe for the rest of the season following Manchester United's unexpected reversal at Wigan, with all predictions and projections eschewed in favour of a focus on winning the next game.

Despite defeat at the DW Stadium United could still finish on their best ever Premier League points total by winning their remaining five games – 94 points at the end of what many consider to be an undistinguished season would put them only a point behind the record 95 set by Chelsea in José Mourinho's blistering first campaign – though Ferguson refuses to look that far ahead.

"I think we'll just concentrate on Sunday's game against Aston Villa," he says. "There's no need to look ahead. If you take care of the next game the rest will take care of itself."

In fairness to the United manager it was his City counterpart who was making all the assumptions last weekend. Roberto Mancini conceded the title race was over once United opened up a lead of eight points, and though it seemed little more than a statement of the obvious, if the intention was to lull Ferguson's players into a false sense of security the first part of the plan went well. Naturally the United manager denies any such psychology was at work.

"I don't think Wednesday night had anything to do with being eight points in front," Ferguson says. "I honestly believe that if we had been playing any other team but Wigan we would have been all right. It's unusual for teams to keep possession of the ball against us that well, they dominated us in the first half. Wigan are playing very well at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Arsenal on Monday. If they can get a goal they can win that game. I think if they had a recognised goalscorer they would be comfortably mid-table by now. Roberto Martínez produces teams that play good football. He did it at Swansea and he is sticking to his principles at Wigan. You have to give him credit for that, it's not easy when you're down there in relegation trouble."

Ferguson has seen too many title run-ins not to know that points are always dropped along the way, sometimes in the most unexpected places, but is equally confident that his team has what it takes to bounce back. "You always get twists and turns, it's how you react that's important," he says. "I remember a few years ago when Liverpool beat us 4-1 at Old Trafford. That genius [Rafael] Benítez said they had planned to beat us by playing long balls behind us. Remember that? Clown."

What Ferguson may not care to remember is that he himself contributed some comedy of his own that day, trying to maintain United had been the better team despite a comprehensive hammering and Fernando Torres single-handedly leaving Nemanja Vidic's Footballer of the Year credentials in tatters, but his point is that United recovered to win the title by four points.

"I think the only time I can remember not dropping points in the run-in was the treble year," Ferguson says. "We went right through from December without losing, but that was unusual. Most years you get twists and turns, and even with five games to play you never think it's all over, because that's what this league is like. Villa are not completely safe yet, so they will be thinking the same way, and when you are looking at away trips to places like Wigan, Manchester City and Sunderland you know you will be in for difficult games.

"Everton at home will not be easy either, they are one of the form teams in the country at the moment, but all we are trying to do for the moment is get back on the winning track against Villa and not look too far ahead. We are in a good position in the league, and compared to the position we were in a few months ago we have to be delighted with the progress we have made."

:lol::lol: Did he really say that?
 
"trying to maintain United had been the better team despite a comprehensive hammering"

A comprehensive hammering where Liverpool scored with their only two chances, were utterly dominated in the second half and then ran up the score with a couple of shots from range after we'd been reduced to ten men. Wouldn't expect anything less from that imbecile Wilson...
 
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(combination of points won by us and/or points lost by massive) to clinch the prem title.
 
Can those nervous posters with little faith who have been so twitchy in thread please perk up abit now? (Yes that INCLUDES you Erica!)

We are Manchester United. This is what we do. We know how to win titles, year in, year out.

You can't win every game, nor can you win the title every year .... but as long as SAF is in charge, we will always be there or thereabouts. Only one team in the entire history of the English team has gone unbeaten the entire season, so the odds are that even CHAMPIONS will lose matches, even unexpected matches like we lost against Wigan midweek. But the reaction by some was just nuts!

I don't understand, after so many years with the great man in charge why our fans get so nervous or panic so quickly. Here we are, Leading the league by 5 points with only 4 games to go and the strong possibility of that being 8 points before our only contender plays his next game.

Nani getting 2 great cameo appearances under his belt as well as the confidence boosting goal and so now fit, ready and in form the help lead the charge to the finish line, we Im very confident we will end up Champions.

A good day all round.
 
Can those nervous posters with little faith who have been so twitchy in thread please perk up abit now? (Yes that INCLUDES you Erica!)

We are Manchester United. This is what we do. We know how to win titles, year in, year out.

You can't win every game, nor can you win the title every year .... but as long as SAF is in charge, we will always be there or thereabouts. Only one team in the entire history of the English team has gone unbeaten the entire season, so the odds are that even CHAMPIONS will lose matches, even unexpected matches like we lost against Wigan midweek. But the reaction by some was just nuts!

I don't understand, after so many years with the great man in charge why our fans get so nervous or panic so quickly. Here we are, Leading the league by 5 points with only 4 games to go and the strong possibility of that being 8 points before our only contender plays his next game.

Nani getting 2 great cameo appearances under his belt as well as the confidence boosting goal and so now fit, ready and in form the help lead the charge to the finish line, we Im very confident we will end up Champions.

A good day all round.

:)

Yes I agree Sammsky. I've decided the reason I felt so unusually pessimistic was because we had to play second. I knew they would win yesterday and I had visions today would end up being a nervy match. I was wrong

And so much happier now
 
Against Wolves, lol good luck.
 
I know we're slightly worried at the moment, but look at it from the perspective of a City fan at the moment. They're 5 points behind, still have to play top of the league who have easily been the best side in the league away from home, and they have to go to a side challenging for CL football away from home where they have generally been weak this season. Not easy, is it?
 
I know we're slightly worried at the moment, but look at it from the perspective of a City fan at the moment. They're 5 points behind, still have to play top of the league who have easily been the best side in the league away from home, and they have to go to a side challenging for CL football away from home where they have generally been weak this season. Not easy, is it?

True - but a week ago they were dead and buried.

They're like a guy scheduled for the gas chamber who's just had his sentence commuted to life imprisonment. Objectively not a good situation, but a definite improvement.
 
All the cliches apply, so I'll just say...

We move on to the next game now. We attempt to send City to Wolves with an eight-point gap. Then we go to the Etihad. For now that's as far as we need to look...

Two games in the next fortnight to win the league, basically.
 
True - but a week ago they were dead and buried.

They're like a guy scheduled for the gas chamber who's just had his sentence commuted to life imprisonment. Objectively not a good situation, but a definite improvement.

That's true, but Utd getting such a comprehensive win today, will have taken a bit of a shine of their recent results, while putting the pressure firmly back on them! That confidence and euphoria they gained from the last 2 results, will not feel quite so significant now.

They are the ones who will now feel they have to win all their remaining games, and after their last 2 performances expectations will be high once again! Those 2 results have given them renewed hope and again raised expectations enough, that they now have something to lose again, and that brings it's own pressures.
 
The thing is the Wigan performance was not really a one off. The QPR and Blackburn, we were poor. Yes we dominated, but that was down to Blackburn and QPR playing for damage limitation. I think if they came at us like Wigan did, then it would be the same situation. It took De Gea to stop Blackburn going ahead a few times.

Villa we should win, but we'll make it hard for ourselves. If we carry on as we've done recently against Everton and City. We will deffo lose those games.

I can't believe I'm seeing that. I thought we were outstanding against Blackburn recently. Patient, quick, incisive and took our chances when the moment came and they'd tired.
 
Beat Everton and we are in a great position.

Easier said than done, they are a stubborn side at the best of times but they'll be determined to make amends for the semi, and you can bet Moyes will have Scholes man-marked like he did with Silva when they played City this season. Crucial, crucial game this, anything less than a win hands the initiative to the bitters :nervous:
 
This race has been crazy. So far back at one point, and then 8 points clear before losing to Wigan. What scares me is that the players are clearly showing nerves. Ferdinand was looking away during the penalty, which I found really funny at the time - but if the experienced players are so nervous, how must the youngsters (and we have many!) be feeling!
 
This race has been crazy. So far back at one point, and then 8 points clear before losing to Wigan. What scares me is that the players are clearly showing nerves. Ferdinand was looking away during the penalty, which I found really funny at the time - but if the experienced players are so nervous, how must the youngsters (and we have many!) be feeling!
He always does that, it's not nerves he explained he likes watching crowd reaction to see if we've scored. We didn't look nervous today...far from it
 
He always does that, it's not nerves he explained he likes watching crowd reaction to see if we've scored. We didn't look nervous today...far from it

Good to know that. I know we didn't look nervous today, but we have earlier. Plus the crowd got agitated when it was still 1-0. The early goal and second goal were key. Well its time to activate agents Neville and Gibson for next week :smirk:.
 
Worried about the Everyone game. Have been tough for us over the past number of years. Rooney usually never plays well against them either. A win there and its curtains for city.

Anyway, politically speaking, if Moyes wants the OT job......he knows what to do.....
 
Toughest game this season coming up, given what is at stake. Lets hope Everton are in a generous mood