Do not need to worry about top four, but our rivals in mid table. Luckily most didn't win. Eight points from 4-5th whilst seven sides within five points of us.Updated after 15 games.
The Maciek's League Table (what it actually looks like)
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That really does show it how it really is, shocking.
Genius idea puts things into perspective. We are a mid table side and with this bunch of players and Mourinho things won't get much better!
This is the worst Mourinho's season at United as in 16/17 he won his 15th game so we had 24 points compared to 23 tonight.This one is even more interesting when presented in such way.
And in 13/14, Moyes lost his 15th game of the season, so this is our second worst season (when we look at last 12 seasons).
Moyes 13/14 - 22 points;
Mourinho 18/19 - 23 points.
It’s a disgrace this is being allowed to continue.
Our fans are a big part of the problem.
Our fans are a big part of the problem.
Chill out mate, @Maciek is trying his best
I forgot who made the GD vs games graph, i'm waiting for an update. ^^
Wow 8 point (9 with GD) gap between 5th and 6th.
Never seen it so big at this still early point of the season. Not really sure what Man. United can do about that, even a 6-7 winning run will only get the team back into contention and that dosen't look like happening anytime soon.
Never seen it so big at this still early point of the season. Not really sure what Man. United can do about that, even a 6-7 winning run will only get the team back into contention and that dosen't look like happening anytime soon.
Solidly mid table.
Hope we beat out our main rivals Everton, Bournemouth and Leicester City by the time season ends. Lofty goal but still somewhat realistic.
Hope we beat out our main rivals Everton, Bournemouth and Leicester City by the time season ends. Lofty goal but still somewhat realistic.
West Ham will come into contention aswell, they have a very easy run of fixtures up to middle of January.
This one is even more interesting when presented in such way.
When comparing with Ferguson, it also has to be mentioned that his teams were usually "slow starters". From winter and on was always when we kicked in and gained momentum.
Consider this though:
This season we're in -1 with goals for vs against
(24 for, 25 against). That must beat some sort of record.Funny thing is that if we were given 15 points, we'd still be only third, but if they took away 15 points from us, we'd be 20th.
It's heartbreaking really seeing us as a mid table team like this. And the board looks fine about it.
There is a phrase that goes by, "the league table does not lie". Very fitting right now I feel.
Can someone fix the thread title though? A small twinge of pain every time.
Goal difference after 15 games: 2007-2018.
2007: +18 (25:7)
2008: +19 (29:10)
2009: +21 (34:13)
2010: +19 (35:16)
2011: +21 (35:14)
2012: +16 (37:21)
2013: +3 (22:19)
2014: +9 (26:17)
2015: +10 (20:10)
2016: +4 (20:16)
2017: +26 (35:9)
2018: -1 (24:25)
What a difference between the last and current season...
2007: +18 (25:7)
2008: +19 (29:10)
2009: +21 (34:13)
2010: +19 (35:16)
2011: +21 (35:14)
2012: +16 (37:21)
2013: +3 (22:19)
2014: +9 (26:17)
2015: +10 (20:10)
2016: +4 (20:16)
2017: +26 (35:9)
2018: -1 (24:25)
What a difference between the last and current season...
If the current points per game trends continue for the remainder of the season, City will finish 45 points ahead of us and we'll miss out on top 4 by 20 points.
Didn’t even double our goal tally last season at this stage till the end of the season (35-68), if that happens this season will end with less goals then in LVG 2nd season (49)
Truly a global juggernaut as the league table shows.
The only tables the boards interested in is the Forbes Most Valuable Sports Brand table and the Deloitte Biggest Revenue by a Sports Entity table.
Ed’s probably spending most of time thinking how we topple the Dallas Cowboys for sports club valuation.
Ed’s probably spending most of time thinking how we topple the Dallas Cowboys for sports club valuation.
In the Southampton game the commentators said it was our worse GD (after 13 games) since 1977 under Dave SextonWhen comparing with Ferguson, it also has to be mentioned that his teams were usually "slow starters". From winter and on was always when we kicked in and gained momentum.
Consider this though:
This season we're in -1 with goals for vs against
Oh, of course. They did convincingly beat us just couple of months ago and will pose a big challenge to our league position. Still, I think it's a realistic goal for us to finish above them and Mourinho deserves all the credit if we manage to pull it off. We did somehow hold Arsenal to a draw today, which is quite remarkable and I see that as a hopeful sign for the future.
yeah but we have a cool official tractor and some other neat sponsorships, so who cares about actual football really.
Its sarcasm?
He's not doing a very good job of it anymore. Cash operating profits and commercial revenues have been flat for three years now. Matchday has been flat for nearly the whole decade. The only growth is coming from tv revenues, all of which goes straight back out again on the ever-increasing wage bill.
I don't know. I'm just trying to fit in with what seems to be our new standard.
Just to be different and change the tone, statistically last season at this stage seemed very impressive ...
It’s unfathomable how far we’ve fallen since a year ago.
It’s unfathomable how far we’ve fallen since a year ago.
So at the top 2 points separate city and Liverpool.
6 points down, 2 points separate Tottenham, arsenal and Chelsea in the top 4 battle.
8 points down, at the upper middle, 2 points separate Everton, Bournemouth, United, Leicester and Brighton .
Rounding out the rest of the midtable, each a point below the next, are Watford, wolves and west ham.
A further 7 teams are roughing it up in a potential relegation battle
6 points down, 2 points separate Tottenham, arsenal and Chelsea in the top 4 battle.
8 points down, at the upper middle, 2 points separate Everton, Bournemouth, United, Leicester and Brighton .
Rounding out the rest of the midtable, each a point below the next, are Watford, wolves and west ham.
A further 7 teams are roughing it up in a potential relegation battle
We have lost so many points at home unless we make up in away games we are firmly a midtable team.
Updated after 15 games.
This looks as despressing as it actually is...
15 games played
14 points ahead of the bottom
18 points away from the top
The amount of goals conceded is what really stands out to me.
Only the bottom 5 teams have conceded more than United's 25 goals against.
Updated after 15 games.
This low budget clustering is a great idea. Good one Maciek.
Makes you wonder whether even SAF would have been able to beat City to the league last season.This one is even more interesting when presented in such way.
It was the worst title challenge in recent years, so they were never put under even a little bit of pressure.
There was a run at the end of November and start of December where they seemed to need last minute winners to get them over the line. Then they came over in December and we primed our arses and bent over for them, and from then they just started stomping the league on the back of that.
We're lucky that the Everton, Leicester, Watford and Bournemouth have also been trash in the last month or we'd be 10th.
It's a cult. They're identical to Trump supporters. Believe whatever the dear leader says, refuse to hear criticism of him or call it fake news. Just like Trump said he could shoot someone and his supporters would still vote for him, Mourinho could get us relegated and wear a Man City shirt to games and his supporters would still yell "Back deh managehhh!" like the idiots they are.
Im actually impressed with Mou's 17/18 result.This one is even more interesting when presented in such way.
This one is even more interesting when presented in such way.
nice thread, some great comps - especially like this one