The Ludo draft

[green_smiley]

I feel nothing

 

[Moby]

Are you like a crazy person?

 

[Jim Beam]

1) Sjor/Pat - 1) F. Rijkaard 2) J. Kohler (1) 3) A. Benarrivo 4) G. Signori 5) W. Zmuda 6) S. Effenberg (284)

2) Moby - 1) Pele 2) G. Best (6) 3) G. Muller (1) 4) G. Facchetti (34) 5) G. Souness 6) R. Krol (4)

3) GSTQ - 1) A. Di Stefano 2) F. Puskas (5) 3) S. Kocsis (1) 4) Z. Czibor (2) 5) A. Shesternyov 6) Garrincha (1)

4) Michaelf - 1) Zico 2) G. Scirea (1) 3) D. Maradona (97) 4) M. Platini (8) 5) T. Finney 6) C. Gentile (36)

5) Indnyc - 1) C. Ronaldo 2) Ronaldinho (2) 3) T. Henry (1) 4) R. Carvalho (3) 5) M. Bossis 6) N. Vidic (1)

6) 2mufc0 - 1) A. Nesta 2) J. Zanetti (1) 3) R. Keane (1) 4) R. Ferdinand (25) 5) LEGACY 6) D. Passarella (74)

7) P-Nut - 1) L. Messi 2) Xavi (1) 3) P. Lahm (1) 4) A. Pirlo (1) 5) S. Mazzola 6) A. Cole

8) Zlatan7 - 1) F. Redondo 2) A. Del Piero (9) 3) E. Davids 4) L. Figo (1) 5) Raúl 6) R. Carlos

9) Himannv - 1) M. Van Basten 2) Tassotti (2) 3) O. Kahn (195) 4) G. Zola (17) 5) K-H. Schnellinger 6. D. Bergkamp (30)

10) onenil/Invictus - 1) F. Beckenbauer 2) J. Cruijff 3) P. R. Falcão (1) 4) Carlos Alberto (1) 5) C. Blanco 6). J. Neeskens

11) Jim Beam - 1) M. Desailly 2) M. Sammer (8) 3) G. Batistuta (12) 4) O. Ruggeri (8) 5) T. Burgnich 6) T. Häßler (62)

12) harms - 1) P. Maldini 2) R. Koeman (21) 3) G. Weah (6) D. Savicevic (1) 5) K-H. Rummenigge

13) MJJ/Swarm - 1) Romario 2) M. Amoros (67) 3) D. Deschamps (224) 4) L. Blanc (∞) 5) LEGACY

14) Green Smiley - 1) H. Stoichkov 2) A. Brehme (47) 3) P. Vierchowod (1) 4) R. Ferri (7) 5) E. Gerets

15) Fred_and_Wilma_87 - 1) R. Gullit 2) R. Baggio 3. G. Popescu 4) C. Ferrara (100) 5) D. Alves

@harms

 

[harms]

Bernd Schuster - I’ve sent my pick to the committee but they seem to prefer company of their new born children or just Edgar stuff. On the phone so can please someone update the list?

@MJJ @Swarm

 

[2mufc0]

Anyone picking before me can send picks to me i'll be around most of the day.

 

[2mufc0]

1) Sjor/Pat - 1) F. Rijkaard 2) J. Kohler (1) 3) A. Benarrivo 4) G. Signori 5) W. Zmuda 6) S. Effenberg (284)

2) Moby - 1) Pele 2) G. Best (6) 3) G. Muller (1) 4) G. Facchetti (34) 5) G. Souness 6) R. Krol (4)

3) GSTQ - 1) A. Di Stefano 2) F. Puskas (5) 3) S. Kocsis (1) 4) Z. Czibor (2) 5) A. Shesternyov 6) Garrincha (1)

4) Michaelf - 1) Zico 2) G. Scirea (1) 3) D. Maradona (97) 4) M. Platini (8) 5) T. Finney 6) C. Gentile (36)

5) Indnyc - 1) C. Ronaldo 2) Ronaldinho (2) 3) T. Henry (1) 4) R. Carvalho (3) 5) M. Bossis 6) N. Vidic (1)

6) 2mufc0 - 1) A. Nesta 2) J. Zanetti (1) 3) R. Keane (1) 4) R. Ferdinand (25) 5) LEGACY 6) D. Passarella (74)

7) P-Nut - 1) L. Messi 2) Xavi (1) 3) P. Lahm (1) 4) A. Pirlo (1) 5) S. Mazzola 6) A. Cole

8) Zlatan7 - 1) F. Redondo 2) A. Del Piero (9) 3) E. Davids 4) L. Figo (1) 5) Raúl 6) R. Carlos (57)

9) Himannv - 1) M. Van Basten 2) Tassotti (2) 3) O. Kahn (195) 4) G. Zola (17) 5) K-H. Schnellinger 6. D. Bergkamp (30)

10) onenil/Invictus - 1) F. Beckenbauer 2) J. Cruijff 3) P. R. Falcão (1) 4) Carlos Alberto (1) 5) C. Blanco 6). J. Neeskens

11) Jim Beam - 1) M. Desailly 2) M. Sammer (8) 3) G. Batistuta (12) 4) O. Ruggeri (8) 5) T. Burgnich 6) T. Häßler (62)

12) harms - 1) P. Maldini 2) R. Koeman (21) 3) G. Weah (6) D. Savicevic (1) 5) K-H. Rummenigge 6) B. Schuster (1)

13) MJJ/Swarm - 1) Romario 2) M. Amoros (67) 3) D. Deschamps (224) 4) L. Blanc (∞) 5) LEGACY

14) Green Smiley - 1) H. Stoichkov 2) A. Brehme (47) 3) P. Vierchowod (1) 4) R. Ferri (7) 5) E. Gerets

15) Fred_and_Wilma_87 - 1) R. Gullit 2) R. Baggio 3. G. Popescu 4) C. Ferrara (100) 5) D. Alves

 

[green_smiley]

Left my pick with @2mufc0 @Skizzo @Edgar Allan Pillow

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

I think another Mod should be recruited

 

[Moby]

I think another Mod should be recruited

Preferably someone in an alternate time zone.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

5) K-H. Schnellinger

I am sorry about bringing this up after someone has drafted him but recently I have felt he is very overrated.

Not just specific to the Jair case I posted in the last draft, but I have seen a few other games where quick tricky wingers have absolutely left him for dead.

The number of times players sent him the wrong side with him ending up on his arse seemed quite high.

I felt his reading of the game was not good enough for him to be classified as an absolute top tier LB.

Maybe I have not watched enough yet though.

 

[Skizzo]

@2mufc0 ready for your player?

 

[Swarm]

Sorry for the repeated hold ups, honestly wanted to mostly watch MJJ do the draft and help out here and there, not make all these decisions He seems to be quite busy these days and I'm not blaming him at all, but I was also travelling a lot and a bit sick. Just got home, so will take a look now.

 

[Skizzo]

Sorry for the repeated hold ups, honestly wanted to mostly watch MJJ do the draft and help out here and there, not make all these decisions He seems to be quite busy these days and I'm not blaming him at all, but I was also travelling a lot and a bit sick. Just got home, so will take a look now.

No worries. You need to PM a position for your legacy player too, and remember that you don’t have a decade restriction for this round.

 

[harms]

I am sorry about bringing this up after someone has drafted him but recently I have felt he is very overrated.

Not just specific to the Jair case I posted in the last draft, but I have seen a few other games where quick tricky wingers have absolutely left him for dead.

The number of times players sent him the wrong side with him ending up on his arse seemed quite high.

I felt his reading of the game was not good enough for him to be classified as an absolute top tier LB.

Maybe I have not watched enough yet though.

From what I’ve seen, I’d rate him higher as a sweeper. He lacked agility to face truly great nimble wingers.

 

[Moby]

I am sorry about bringing this up after someone has drafted him but recently I have felt he is very overrated.

Not just specific to the Jair case I posted in the last draft, but I have seen a few other games where quick tricky wingers have absolutely left him for dead.

The number of times players sent him the wrong side with him ending up on his arse seemed quite high.

I felt his reading of the game was not good enough for him to be classified as an absolute top tier LB.

Maybe I have not watched enough yet though.

He was really bad vs us in the 68—69 EC semis. Best had a great game against him from what I remember and it was our crap finishing that allowed Milan to go through..

 

[2mufc0]

@2mufc0 ready for your player?

 

[Skizzo]

He’s happier to see you than vice versa

Spoiler

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

From what I’ve seen, I’d rate him higher as a sweeper. He lacked agility to face truly great nimble wingers.

Ah, that makes sense. Exactly what I felt about the wingers part.

He was really bad vs us in the 68—69 EC semis. Best had a great game against him from what I remember and it was our crap finishing that allowed Milan to go through.

Thanks for the info. Both the legs are available on footballia, I will check them out.

 

[2mufc0]

He’s happier to see you than vice versa

Spoiler

not bad!

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

He’s happier to see you than vice versa

Spoiler

Why won't you give him Ole? Feck off

 

[Swarm]

No worries. You need to PM a position for your legacy player too, and remember that you don’t have a decade restriction for this round.

Ye, not too fussed at this point, I don't think MJJ cares too much. He will have to deal with the mess I am drafting in the writeups

 

[harms]

Van Basten & Bergkamp

 

[Moby]

Van Basten & Bergkamp

Not sure what Zola is doing there. That's a good front two for a 442.

 

[Skizzo]

Why won't you give him Ole? Feck off

Legacy not OLEgend

 

[harms]

Not sure what Zola is doing there. That's a good front two for a 442.

Yeah, Zola is a surplus to requirements now.

 

[Swarm]

1) Sjor/Pat - 1) F. Rijkaard 2) J. Kohler (1) 3) A. Benarrivo 4) G. Signori 5) W. Zmuda 6) S. Effenberg (284)

2) Moby - 1) Pele 2) G. Best (6) 3) G. Muller (1) 4) G. Facchetti (34) 5) G. Souness 6) R. Krol (4)

3) GSTQ - 1) A. Di Stefano 2) F. Puskas (5) 3) S. Kocsis (1) 4) Z. Czibor (2) 5) A. Shesternyov 6) Garrincha (1)

4) Michaelf - 1) Zico 2) G. Scirea (1) 3) D. Maradona (97) 4) M. Platini (8) 5) T. Finney 6) C. Gentile (36)

5) Indnyc - 1) C. Ronaldo 2) Ronaldinho (2) 3) T. Henry (1) 4) R. Carvalho (3) 5) M. Bossis 6) N. Vidic (1)

6) 2mufc0 - 1) A. Nesta 2) J. Zanetti (1) 3) R. Keane (1) 4) R. Ferdinand (25) 5) LEGACY 6) D. Passarella (74)

7) P-Nut - 1) L. Messi 2) Xavi (1) 3) P. Lahm (1) 4) A. Pirlo (1) 5) S. Mazzola 6) A. Cole

8) Zlatan7 - 1) F. Redondo 2) A. Del Piero (9) 3) E. Davids 4) L. Figo (1) 5) Raúl 6) R. Carlos (57)

9) Himannv - 1) M. Van Basten 2) Tassotti (2) 3) O. Kahn (195) 4) G. Zola (17) 5) K-H. Schnellinger 6. D. Bergkamp (30)

10) onenil/Invictus - 1) F. Beckenbauer 2) J. Cruijff 3) P. R. Falcão (1) 4) Carlos Alberto (1) 5) C. Blanco 6). J. Neeskens

11) Jim Beam - 1) M. Desailly 2) M. Sammer (8) 3) G. Batistuta (12) 4) O. Ruggeri (8) 5) T. Burgnich 6) T. Häßler (62)

12) harms - 1) P. Maldini 2) R. Koeman (21) 3) G. Weah (6) D. Savicevic (1) 5) K-H. Rummenigge 6) B. Schuster (1)

13) MJJ/Swarm - 1) Romario 2) M. Amoros (67) 3) D. Deschamps (224) 4) L. Blanc (∞) 5) LEGACY 6) A. Iniesta (216)

14) Green Smiley - 1) H. Stoichkov 2) A. Brehme (47) 3) P. Vierchowod (1) 4) R. Ferri (7) 5) E. Gerets

15) Fred_and_Wilma_87 - 1) R. Gullit 2) R. Baggio 3. G. Popescu 4) C. Ferrara (100) 5) D. Alves

@green_smiley

 

[2mufc0]

1) Sjor/Pat - 1) F. Rijkaard 2) J. Kohler (1) 3) A. Benarrivo 4) G. Signori 5) W. Zmuda 6) S. Effenberg (284)

2) Moby - 1) Pele 2) G. Best (6) 3) G. Muller (1) 4) G. Facchetti (34) 5) G. Souness 6) R. Krol (4)

3) GSTQ - 1) A. Di Stefano 2) F. Puskas (5) 3) S. Kocsis (1) 4) Z. Czibor (2) 5) A. Shesternyov 6) Garrincha (1)

4) Michaelf - 1) Zico 2) G. Scirea (1) 3) D. Maradona (97) 4) M. Platini (8) 5) T. Finney 6) C. Gentile (36)

5) Indnyc - 1) C. Ronaldo 2) Ronaldinho (2) 3) T. Henry (1) 4) R. Carvalho (3) 5) M. Bossis 6) N. Vidic (1)

6) 2mufc0 - 1) A. Nesta 2) J. Zanetti (1) 3) R. Keane (1) 4) R. Ferdinand (25) 5) T. Sheringham 6) D. Passarella (74)

7) P-Nut - 1) L. Messi 2) Xavi (1) 3) P. Lahm (1) 4) A. Pirlo (1) 5) S. Mazzola 6) A. Cole

8) Zlatan7 - 1) F. Redondo 2) A. Del Piero (9) 3) E. Davids 4) L. Figo (1) 5) Raúl 6) R. Carlos (57)

9) Himannv - 1) M. Van Basten 2) Tassotti (2) 3) O. Kahn (195) 4) G. Zola (17) 5) K-H. Schnellinger 6. D. Bergkamp (30)

10) onenil/Invictus - 1) F. Beckenbauer 2) J. Cruijff 3) P. R. Falcão (1) 4) Carlos Alberto (1) 5) C. Blanco 6). J. Neeskens

11) Jim Beam - 1) M. Desailly 2) M. Sammer (8) 3) G. Batistuta (12) 4) O. Ruggeri (8) 5) T. Burgnich 6) T. Häßler (62)

12) harms - 1) P. Maldini 2) R. Koeman (21) 3) G. Weah (6) D. Savicevic (1) 5) K-H. Rummenigge 6) B. Schuster (1)

13) MJJ/Swarm - 1) Romario 2) M. Amoros (67) 3) D. Deschamps (224) 4) L. Blanc (∞) 5) LEGACY 6) A. Iniesta (216)

14) Green Smiley - 1) H. Stoichkov 2) A. Brehme (47) 3) P. Vierchowod (1) 4) R. Ferri (7) 5) E. Gerets 6) E. Francescoli (1)

15) Fred_and_Wilma_87 - 1) R. Gullit 2) R. Baggio 3. G. Popescu 4) C. Ferrara (100) 5) D. Alves

@willhse456 @Enigma_87

 

[2mufc0]

@Skizzo @Edgar Allan Pillow get the next roll ready lads.

 

[Skizzo]

@MJJ @Swarm

Spoiler

 

[Skizzo]

@Skizzo @Edgar Allan Pillow get the next roll ready lads.

It’s waiting

 

[Himannv]

I am sorry about bringing this up after someone has drafted him but recently I have felt he is very overrated.

Not just specific to the Jair case I posted in the last draft, but I have seen a few other games where quick tricky wingers have absolutely left him for dead.

The number of times players sent him the wrong side with him ending up on his arse seemed quite high.

I felt his reading of the game was not good enough for him to be classified as an absolute top tier LB.

Maybe I have not watched enough yet though.

I've always thought he was more of a sweeper than an LB.

 

[Swarm]

@MJJ @Swarm

Spoiler

Was he viewed as more of a left back or a centre back?

 

[Swarm]

1) Sjor/Pat - 1) F. Rijkaard 2) J. Kohler (1) 3) A. Benarrivo 4) G. Signori 5) W. Zmuda 6) S. Effenberg (284)

2) Moby - 1) Pele 2) G. Best (6) 3) G. Muller (1) 4) G. Facchetti (34) 5) G. Souness 6) R. Krol (4)

3) GSTQ - 1) A. Di Stefano 2) F. Puskas (5) 3) S. Kocsis (1) 4) Z. Czibor (2) 5) A. Shesternyov 6) Garrincha (1)

4) Michaelf - 1) Zico 2) G. Scirea (1) 3) D. Maradona (97) 4) M. Platini (8) 5) T. Finney 6) C. Gentile (36)

5) Indnyc - 1) C. Ronaldo 2) Ronaldinho (2) 3) T. Henry (1) 4) R. Carvalho (3) 5) M. Bossis 6) N. Vidic (1)

6) 2mufc0 - 1) A. Nesta 2) J. Zanetti (1) 3) R. Keane (1) 4) R. Ferdinand (25) 5) T. Sheringham 6) D. Passarella (74)

7) P-Nut - 1) L. Messi 2) Xavi (1) 3) P. Lahm (1) 4) A. Pirlo (1) 5) S. Mazzola 6) A. Cole

8) Zlatan7 - 1) F. Redondo 2) A. Del Piero (9) 3) E. Davids 4) L. Figo (1) 5) Raúl 6) R. Carlos (57)

9) Himannv - 1) M. Van Basten 2) Tassotti (2) 3) O. Kahn (195) 4) G. Zola (17) 5) K-H. Schnellinger 6. D. Bergkamp (30)

10) onenil/Invictus - 1) F. Beckenbauer 2) J. Cruijff 3) P. R. Falcão (1) 4) Carlos Alberto (1) 5) C. Blanco 6). J. Neeskens

11) Jim Beam - 1) M. Desailly 2) M. Sammer (8) 3) G. Batistuta (12) 4) O. Ruggeri (8) 5) T. Burgnich 6) T. Häßler (62)

12) harms - 1) P. Maldini 2) R. Koeman (21) 3) G. Weah (6) D. Savicevic (1) 5) K-H. Rummenigge 6) B. Schuster (1)

13) MJJ/Swarm - 1) Romario 2) M. Amoros (67) 3) D. Deschamps (224) 4) L. Blanc (∞) 5) G. Heinze 6) A. Iniesta (216)

14) Green Smiley - 1) H. Stoichkov 2) A. Brehme (47) 3) P. Vierchowod (1) 4) R. Ferri (7) 5) E. Gerets 6) E. Francescoli (1)

15) Fred_and_Wilma_87 - 1) R. Gullit 2) R. Baggio 3. G. Popescu 4) C. Ferrara (100) 5) D. Alves

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

I've always thought he was more of a sweeper than an LB.

I have always been made to believe otherwise. I think majority view him as a LB as well as his best position. At least that is what I felt.

I have read people call him a better sweeper and CB than fullback but they were the minority

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

8) Zlatan7 - 1) F. Redondo 2) A. Del Piero (9) 3) E. Davids 4) L. Figo (1) 5) Raúl 6) R. Carlos (57)

You sir are silently building a juggernaut

@Zlatan 7

 

[Synco]

I have always been made to believe otherwise. I think majority view him as a LB as well as his best position. At least that is what I felt.

I have read people call him a better sweeper and CB than fullback but they were the minority

Based on some games & graphics I've seen, my guess is that he was a LB primarily during earlier parts of his career, while playing mostly centrally during his later years for Milan & Germany.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

Based on some games & graphics I've seen, my guess is that he was a LB primarily during earlier parts of his career, while playing mostly centrally during his later years for Milan & Germany.

Ah, a German, great. That is still a vague answer best position wise. What would you call his best position?

 

[Synco]

Ah, a German, great. That is still a vague answer best position wise. What would you call his best position?

No idea, seen too little of him. I liked him very much as a CB/sweeper generally, but that's again only based on a few impressions.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

No idea, seen too little of him. I liked him very much as a CB/sweeper generally, but that's again only based on a few impressions.

Fair enough.

 

[P-Nut]

@MJJ @Swarm how you going to do me like that!?