The Incredible Sulk – also known as Marcus Rashford

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Look he hasnt been brilliant this season and the season prior to last.
Im still convinced him and Bruno would be better off in another team. Both players that have been hugley criticised here (despite both actually contributing something to this team since arriving granted Rashford is a home product)while we have a squad full of deadwood to chose from.
At this point I really dont care who plays once ETH f... off Sancho will be an option and I sincerley hope Greenwood again.
Both Rashford and Antony enjoyed first team status for far too long.
 
astracrazy said:
Not with his attitude
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Or his talent. Apart from pace which he's starting to lose btw, he has never been anything special.

I would say Sterling's all-around play at 19 when Liverpool challenged for the title is something Rashford can only dream of.
 
I have defended him on here for a long time, but I have had enough of him now. He had the opportunity to take the next step in a couple of seasons gone by to become world class, but he never did unfortunately. I genuinely believe we should get rid of him at the end of the season. This club needs a proper reset like Arsenal did. There are a good few bad eggs, and players who rate their ability above their station. We need a good purge and change of attitude. Rashford is a classic example of the malaise around the club. His attitude and commitment on the pitch last was was absolutely pathetic and indefensible. Takeover can't come quick enough. The club is a complete and utter joke at this stage.
 
There is still a good player in there, but his evaluation by the club seems off. If Ferguson was still around, his status would (still) be similar to Solskjaer's: A super sub, coming on late in games to use his pace and his willingness to run in-behind against tired defences. He would also start several games, but he would not be the first name on the team sheet. Or on 350k p/w and with an "untouchable" status.
 
Raees said:
Remember when I said he had an ego which needed bursting...
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His body language is dreadful and his smug look is infuriating.
If he left tomorrow I wouldn't give a toss. His character and attitude is toxic.
Imagine his team mates looking at him every week and the absolute trash he serves up and knowing he won't be dropped.
 
norm87cro said:
Look he hasnt been brilliant this season and the season prior to last.
Im still convinced him and Bruno would be better off in another team. Both players that have been hugley criticised here (despite both actually contributing something to this team since arriving granted Rashford is a home product)while we have a squad full of deadwood to chose from.
At this point I really dont care who plays once ETH f... off Sancho will be an option and I sincerley hope Greenwood again.
Both Rashford and Antony enjoyed first team status for far too long.
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You play for the club. If you behave like Sancho and Greenwood you shouldn't never play in this club again. There is no excuse for that behaviour.

Deadwood you say? Well the biggest one this season is the one you are convinced he would be better off in another team. And I don't mean Fernandes.

Rashford needs to take time from football, find at least some happiness and return with that happiness. You can't walk on football pitch looking like you are forced to play. Looking like you are actually somewhere else. This is not football related problems and he needs professional help.
 
I've never massively rated him. At his best he was decent and had a good purple patch last season where he looked far better than his actual level, and actually put in a lot more effort, but otherwise he's always been very inconsistent and at his best was never close to the level that the British media wants to pretend.

He's completely lost the talent level he did have. He puts in minimal effort at the best of times these days and zero effort much of the time. He is terrified of defenders, refuses to run, and pulls out of any challenge with another player.

He needs to go, and take McTom and Martial with him.
 
iKeano said:
Anything you need to know about Rashfraud can be established by watching his last 10mins at Wembley last season against City. A goal down and he's limping about and walking... WALKING back on side like it was an inconvenience.
Send him to Brighton like Wellbeck and watching him fade into obscurity where he belongs. His attitude stinks, always has done. ETH will fall on his Geldof sword. Can't stand his petulant, moody demeanour stinking up the squad. We owe him nothing and he begrudges us everything .
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Yeah it was a real eye opener to what he's like. Not challenging for the ball in an FA cup final with minutes left.

After the game there were images of him trying to lift the other players that were sitting on the ground and he was getting praised for it which infuriated me.

Not trying or caring on the pitch and then making it look like he cares off the pitch is exactly what he is
 
Just sell in January if we can or at the very least next summer, he is too inconsistent but seeing as how this club and it's fans (just look at those who carried on supporting out of depth manager like ten hag) are happy to lower the standards of the club, he will be here on unjustified extortionate wages for the next 10 years....
 
Salford_Red83 said:
Absolutely ridiculous and delusional.

People like you are the reason why he's able just to wander round the pitch putting in zero effort, because you point at the manager and say "ahhhkchually it's his fault that grown man on £350k a week is sulking, even though he's done everything to accommodate this man child."

If ETH doesn't drop Rashford for the foreseeable future then he's getting the sack. It's that simple.
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Ten Hag deserves the sack he will be never be good enough for United.

Rashford at least he's down he is good though
 
I really dislike him. We don't need these types of characters. They are poison.
 
norm87cro said:
Look he hasnt been brilliant this season and the season prior to last.
Im still convinced him and Bruno would be better off in another team. Both players that have been hugley criticised here (despite both actually contributing something to this team since arriving granted Rashford is a home product)while we have a squad full of deadwood to chose from.
At this point I really dont care who plays once ETH f... off Sancho will be an option and I sincerley hope Greenwood again.
Both Rashford and Antony enjoyed first team status for far too long.
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Rashford would be better off in another team, not because he’s a good player who deserves better but because I don’t want him playing for us. I can take a 6/10 player with a strong attitude any day… I can’t stand players who can be decent but don’t try and sulk. Over the years, I’ve watched dozens of 6-7/10 players give 100% and always supported them.

He’s awful for the team… doesn’t press, doesn’t tackle, doesn’t even attempt headers, doesn’t track and his lack of input and his outward appearance have a domino effect.

Bruno needs to play as a 10, closer to front players and having more creative impact… I don’t doubt his ability or desire to do well for United, I doubt his decision making at times, his stupid fouls and where he’s played.

As for Sancho, shouldn’t be anywhere near our club.
 
17Larsson said:
Yeah it was a real eye opener to what he's like. Not challenging for the ball in an FA cup final with minutes left.

After the game there were images of him trying to lift the other players that were sitting on the ground and he was getting praised for it which infuriated me.

Not trying or caring on the pitch and then making it look like he cares off the pitch is exactly what he is
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Exactly. A PR merchant at best and a sulking prima Donna all other times. Should have cashed in after his one-off good season last year. He thinks he's Real Madrid standard but has Patrick Thistle outputs. Can't stand him.
 
I think the criticism he gets is over the top at times but there's no doubt that yesterday was simply horrendous. It was maybe 4 minutes in when he had his first involvement, he had plenty of space on the outside but instead he tried cutting in and ran into a couple of defenders. You could tell then exactly how the game would go for him. His confidence is at rock bottom and it shows.

It's understandable Ten Hag has given him more opportunities to play himself into form because without his goals last season he probably wouldn't be here now. But at this point it seems to be doing him more harm than good. I wouldn't drop him completely but certainly a spell on the bench is needed.
 
Didn't Carrick drop Rashford on his first match as manager against Villarreal or was it Bruno?
 
Adisa said:
I really dislike him. We don't need these types of characters. They are poison.
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So who's worked for the club and said he has a negative impact?
Seems you're doing the old lets go all in on a player as they're not performing and make issues that are not there...
 
Red_toad said:
So who's worked for the club and said he has a negative impact?
Seems you're doing the old lets go all in on a player as they're not performing and make issues that are not there...
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Do you genuinely believe that someone at the club where Rashford has a superstar status would come out and say he has a bad influence? His attitude on the pitch is not enough evidence for you?
 
I haven't enjoyed watching him play for quite some time. He's just coming across as more and more unlikeable. Doesn't seem like a team player, but at the same time his own individual performance is dreadful, so he isn't even close to succeeding in that department either.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Rashford would be better off in another team, not because he’s a good player who deserves better but because I don’t want him playing for us. I can take a 6/10 player with a strong attitude any day… I can’t stand players who can be decent but don’t try and sulk. Over the years, I’ve watched dozens of 6-7/10 players give 100% and always supported them.

He’s awful for the team… doesn’t press, doesn’t tackle, doesn’t even attempt headers, doesn’t track and his lack of input and his outward appearance have a domino effect.

Bruno needs to play as a 10, closer to front players and having more creative impact… I don’t doubt his ability or desire to do well for United, I doubt his decision making at times, his stupid fouls and where he’s played.

As for Sancho, shouldn’t be anywhere near our club.
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Well I hope you had the same attitude when the club chose Pogba over the manager
 
Leftback99 said:
We wonder why we're falling miles behind the likes of Newcastle:

Rashford - 17 PL goals last season. New contract, Undroppable superstar status, £300k+ a week.

Harvey Barnes - 13 PL goals last season (less minutes) in a relegated side. Newcastle back up.
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The last decade has seen us consistently hand out undeserved contracts.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
Do you genuinely believe that someone at the club where Rashford has a superstar status would come out and say he has a bad influence? His attitude on the pitch is not enough evidence for you?
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What does what I believe have to do with it?
I'd suggest you read up on comments that have been previously made regarding Pogba, Sancho, Ronaldo & Martial as a few examples made by Managers at the club. Superstar Rooney was also called out by Sir Alex. So it does happen and we have enough ex players who are still aware of issues in the dressing room, who would leak things.
His actions on the pitch do not show he's disruptive in the dressing room, it shows a lack of desire and form. Not sure where anyone would get poison from?
 
Robbie Boy said:
The last decade has seen us consistently hand out undeserved contracts.
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I genuinely think an average Caf poster (not the ‘pay whatever it takes‘ transfer muppets ) could not have wasted resources any worse over the last 10 years.
 
Leftback99 said:
I genuinely think an average Caf poster (not the ‘pay whatever it takes‘ transfer muppets ) could not have wasted resources any worse over the last 10 years.
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A billion spent to win 2 League Cups, 1 EL and an FA Cup. Utter madness.
 
Red_toad said:
What does what I believe have to do with it?
I'd suggest you read up on comments that have been previously made regarding Pogba, Sancho, Ronaldo & Martial as a few examples made by Managers at the club. Superstar Rooney was also called out by Sir Alex. So it does happen and we have enough ex players who are still aware of issues in the dressing room, who would leak things.
His actions on the pitch do not show he's disruptive in the dressing room, it shows a lack of desire and form. Not sure where anyone would get poison from?
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So if hasn't been leaked then nothing must have happened. Is that what you're suggesting?

Also, didn't Rangnick call out Rashford once?
 
Red_toad said:
So who's worked for the club and said he has a negative impact?
Seems you're doing the old lets go all in on a player as they're not performing and make issues that are not there...
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Not performing is not the issue here. Refusing to do the minimum and work had for the team is the issue.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
So if hasn't been leaked then nothing must have happened. Is that what you're suggesting?

Also, didn't Rangnick call out Rashford once?
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I'm suggesting nothing, simply countering an opinion with a few facts. I've seen nothing to suggest he's a poor element in the dressing room, nor has anything been reported.
Yeah when Rashford in & out of the team, Ralf said something about him being free to seek a move elsewhere. Rashford a few weeks later cemented a place in the team under Rangnick and he was full of praise for him. I think it's pretty standard for players to complain to the manager if they're not playing, doesn't really mean they're being a disruptive influence (or poisonous).
 
Red_toad said:
So who's worked for the club and said he has a negative impact?
Seems you're doing the old lets go all in on a player as they're not performing and make issues that are not there...
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If I seen the highest paid person in my office not giving a feck but still being shown favouritism by the manager, I reckon it'd have a fairly negative affect on employee morale. It certainly wouldn't create a great working environment where everyone wants to do their best. Anyone with a professional career can see the potential issues with Rashfords behaviour (as well as a few others at United)
 
Adisa said:
Not performing is not the issue here. Refusing to do the minimum and work had for the team is the issue.
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Shame you didn't state he had an awful lack of willingness to work for the team. I'd fully agree with that statement. I don't think his lack of work ethic affects the likes of Bruno, Antony, Garnacho etc, so it doesn't really have a poisonous affect on the team. It's simply detrimental the to team as a whole functioning much like Martial's lack of running, McTommy not making himself available to pass to etc.
 
Red_toad said:
Shame you didn't state he had an awful lack of willingness to work for the team. I'd fully agree with that statement. I don't think his lack of work ethic affects the likes of Bruno, Antony, Garnacho etc, so it doesn't really have a poisonous affect on the team. It's simply detrimental the to team as a whole functioning much like Martial's lack of running, McTommy not making himself available to pass to etc.
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You kid yourself if you think one player walking around the pitch while others are expected to carry the can doesn’t affect the team’s work ethic.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Rashford would be better off in another team, not because he’s a good player who deserves better but because I don’t want him playing for us. I can take a 6/10 player with a strong attitude any day… I can’t stand players who can be decent but don’t try and sulk. Over the years, I’ve watched dozens of 6-7/10 players give 100% and always supported them.

He’s awful for the team… doesn’t press, doesn’t tackle, doesn’t even attempt headers, doesn’t track and his lack of input and his outward appearance have a domino effect.

As for Sancho, shouldn’t be anywhere near our club.
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This.
 
I struggle to understand players like him these days who are upset if they need to come back and help the team. Isnt it fun to have a duel? And why make it look like its three times as much hard work to run towards your own goal as it is to run towards the opposition goal? Its running either way, either you like running or you dont.

Other than a number 9 striker I'm struggling to see why players are such babies and think its their right to be given the ball and only use their energy at that point rather than having to put in some work to help the team get the ball and work for the right to play football with the ball. There are better players than Rashford etc who are tracking back or putting in great effort with pressing high up the pitch
 
AndySmith1990 said:
If I seen the highest paid person in my office not giving a feck but still being shown favouritism by the manager, I reckon it'd have a fairly negative affect on employee morale. It certainly wouldn't create a great working environment where everyone wants to do their best. Anyone with a professional career can see the potential issues with Rashfords behaviour (as well as a few others at United)
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Do you honestly think what see in your office really reflects on what professional sports people see?
He appears to be very popular in the dressing room. I'd say his team mates want him back in form and playing well.
Moved out of his favoured role for Garnacho, is that the favourtism you're talking about?
 
The absence of any sustained effort by Rashford concerns me most. He has some ability, but his unwillingness to play for the TEAM is disgraceful.
 
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