Edgar Allan Pillow
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so we just post picks we dont wait our turn?
Wait your turn. Just alerted people to hurry up. PM me your picks....
so we just post picks we dont wait our turn?
Too many 50s players I thinkHugo Sanchez
Tag me when its my turn again.
Nice. Versatile too.
Would you swap Son for Mane + Cash?
Would you swap Son for Mane + Cash?
@Edgar Allan Pillow we're ready for the draw.
He was also much more capable in attack than we rate him. There is a certain rigidity in the draft community towards few players.I think Burgnich was way more agile than we rate him here limiting him to a static right back position. I think he would do a more than decent job as a left back or even a destroyer based on that game.
Regarding Facchetti's reputation — it also depends on the draft history. Facchetti is one of antohan's favourites and he is (well, at least was) one of the most articulate posters on here. Although he definitely had better games than those two finals.
hadn't watched too much of Facchetti from a full match perspective, so watched a couple of games this week as I wanted to watch full matches of a couple other players as well.
Facchetti is seen as an epitome of a super human left back in the draft threads here, who can man a flank by himself even in a 4 man setup.
Who could attack at the highest level (being the only source of width at times in zona mistake kind of setups) while still facing some of the best wingers and keeping them quiet.
The two games I watched were:
1970 WC final (mainly for Gerson and Facchetti) : Facchetti's attacking output was very limited in this game considering he was up against Jairzinho. Hardly saw him run up the pitch.
1967 EC final (mainly for Johnstone and Facchetti) : Jimmy Johnstone was the best Celtic attacker the Italian's had anticipated and Facchetti tried or was instructed to stay away from him. In fact, it was Burgnich who was man marking him throughout the game and did a good job to be honest. I think Burgnich was way more agile than we rate him here limiting him to a static right back position. I think he would do a more than decent job as a left back or even a destroyer based on that game.
I'll try to watch a few more big games of Carlos Alberto and Facchetti when I get time. Full backs decide games very often in drafts and the kind of flexibility the GOAT's offer is amazing. Maybe should be reconsidered at times, especially when the likes of Roberto Carlos/Jorginho/Marcelo/Alves etc are often called out for their defensive liabilities while attacking, but the likes of Facchetti/Cafu/Carlos Alberto are treated at the same defensive level as the greatest defensive fullbacks in Bergomi/Thuram/Krol/Burgnich/Maldini
He's definitely had better offensive games than those 2 games were he was strictly man-marking. But overall I do buy your point in that some FBs tend to be rated as superhuman who can do just about everything.
@idmanager
Feel free to post all your positive findings about Carlos Alberto.
Feel free to keep any negatives to yourself.
Kthanks