The Impossible Draft R1 - Skizzo vs Sjor/Jim Beam
- Thread starter Edgar Allan Pillow
- Start date
Now I'm tempted to switch sides 
I'm glad to see Rats picked but he's a hard one to rate. Firstly it's even difficult to tell his best position — it would probably be a left midfielder, although obviously he also played as a left back a lot (but the starting left back for Dynamo and USSR was usually Demyanenko). One of Lobanovskyi's ridiculous all-rounders. Reminded me of Alba-Mathieu partnership at Valencia (albeit at a higher level, of course) — two players who were equally good at either wing position and interchanged quite a lot.
Sjor's midfield won my vote here — and the Stoichkov-Elkjær partnership is also awesome (and well balanced with Corbatta on the right as a more orthodox winger). I like Skizzo's defence a bit better, but Charlton/Schuster/Stoichkov/Elkjær
The obvious question is: how did Rattin get on against Charlton in 1966?
Rattin got sent of in the first half for "insulting" the ref, they faced each other in 62' as well and Charlton ran the show.
To be fair Charlton played as an outside left in 1962 and didn't face him directly, did he?
Don’t know much about Vasyl Rats but his wiki profile says he was a midfielder. Did he ever play left back?
i watched the game a year ago so cant recall where specifically he played, it might be a bit further on the left then usual but he never hugged the line and was often in the middle in that inside left channel that he likes.
But its not just their face to face duel that happened, what i saw from Rattin defensive wise there is no way he can deal with a midfielder that will ran at him whole day long.
Yeah, I don't argue with that — it was one of the reasons behind my vote.
He did. He played more as a left midfielder but he was pretty versatile — and when Demyanenko moved to the right or was injured or for whatever tactical reason didn't play as a left back Rats usually played as a Dynamo/USSR left back. Started 1988 Euro final as one iirc (and scored the winner in the group game against Netherlands as a LM).
great, so its not only Sammer on the left that doesnt play in his best position its the leftback as well
When we lose im hoping we played with 10 man as Corbatta got to drunk and he missed the stadium.
UEFA 88 final
He’d often find himself between a left back or a left midfielder though, and i had plans for him to take up the mantle of a left wing back of sorts before my drafting oversight
he was one of the all round Soviet types from that era though who could slot into a number of positions, so I don’t see him being out of position here.@harms @Skizzo thank you
I like both teams but just feel @Šjor Bepo attack is slightly better which is why I voted for him
I like both teams but just feel @Šjor Bepo attack is slightly better which is why I voted for him
congrats @Skizzo
Cheers mate. Hard luck to you and @Jim Beam
Wasn’t looking forward to the prospect of facing Stoichkov and elkjaer, and even less so Sir Bobby and Rattin
You know you can always count on Arsene Wenger of drafts. Two good reinforcements, Sammer in his position and you are in great spot
You know you can always count on Arsene Wenger of drafts. Two good reinforcements, Sammer in his position and you are in great spot
I’ll have to actually pay attention this time and see what wiggle room I’ve left myself for getting someone in
I'd say Rats main position was left-midfield, though as harms said he was a versatile player that switched about and covered a lot for Demyanenko and also played centre midfield quite a few times before the emergence of Mikhailichenko. I liked him a lot, he had the high workrate and versatile tactically balanced style for Lobanovsky, but also a high amount of technique and vision in his game, unlike someone like other utility man Andrei Bal or Ivan Yaremchuk on the other side of midfield who were strictly solid system men. He was a good dribbler too and though he didn't score many goals, tended to get important ones.
How would you see him doing as a left wing back of sorts? Slightly freed up to go forward, with some defensive responsibility. That’s why I leaned towards him primarily
@harms input welcome as well.