Couldn't agree more. Scream a load, look horrified, job done. Saw V was probably the worst film I've seen in my life. Laughable plot.
Christ, if that's what I'm thinking of (baby rape?) that should just never have been made.
I don't quite get THC series. Let's stitch people up and have them eat each other's shit, then vomit it back into their arsehole? Just typing that sentence out felt wrong, at what point does someone concoct such an idea, and make it into a film? If a film could go viral, that's almost the perfect example of it.
By the way Cider, can we have some more reviews please? Don't think I've got a good enough gauge on the film.
Probably. I've never watched it. I've just heard crazy things about it, the trailer looks pretty crazy.
I agree with you on shite such as Saw, it's really horrible. Horror movie these days is just about torture and shitty. I've got plenty of time for older horror movies where it was more than just sudden screams or as much pain as possible.
I found the first HC boring to be honest with woeful acting. Serbian Film is too and obviously so far fetched it is ludicrous.
For all the people up in arms about the baby 'scene', while I don't care for or buy into the supposed political allegory (ie the government rapes its citizens from birth), yuo just see a guy take a newborn baby off camera- that's it.
Wouldn't rush out to see either if you haven't already. Both are ultimately poor and you are much better watching the original Last House of the Left or Straw Dogs.
They're the natural progression from the now dated concept of the slasher movie. People got bored with the old Chase/Kill formula of the Halloween or Scream style movies when movies such as Saw and Hostel showed audiences more personal and psychological violence in the form of protracted torture and mutilation; it was no longer just Chase/Kill, now it would be Chase/Torture/Kill. The entertainment aspect comes in seeing all the original, graphic and gruesome forms of torture that each subsequent movie depicts, each trying to outdo the last just like the slashers did time and time again - and then thinking to yourself, "feck, now that'd fecking hurt!"
The filmmakers are kind of goading you into watching the latest instalment. "I liked Saw, some of the torture scenes were really sick!" - "You fecking baby, you think that was sick?! You don't know what sick is... watch THIS if you want sick!" It's not that the people enjoying these films are all perspective serial killers either, rather, the audience is invited to put themselves in place of the victim; we want to know our pain threshold, we want to know how we'd react to such an extreme and violent situation as being relentlessly tortured, and through such films one can almost imagine oneself in such a traumatic situation.
Movie audiences love extremes of emotion, and how much more extreme can you get than having your body mutilated by some cnut whilst you hang helpless from a meat-hook stabbed unceremoniously into the skin of your back? Again, just like the slasher movies, these films have a kind of audience participation aspect to them, in that, the viewer is constantly asking themselves, "Hmm what would I do?" - "I'd grab that wrench and try and hit him with it... yeah but my arm's broke innit... I know, I'd go in that door and hide in a cupboard..." that kind of shit that just keeps the viewer involved. There're are always fit birds with their tits out knocking about too, which is never a bad thing.
The baby scene in HC2 is miles better than that.
Why would anyone want to know how they'd react in an extreme and violent situation, never mind imagine oneself in that scenario? How I'd react is obvious and I have absolutely no desire to spend an evening imagining myself being tortured. Seems like a shit way to spend 90 minutes.
As for extremes of emotion, I can think of a whole bunch of different ways to trigger emotional extremes without any need to sit through poorly made movies, intended to repulse the viewer.
Why would anyone want to know how they'd react in an extreme and violent situation, never mind imagine oneself in that scenario? How I'd react is obvious and I have absolutely no desire to spend an evening imagining myself being tortured. Seems like a shit way to spend 90 minutes.
As for extremes of emotion, I can think of a whole bunch of different ways to trigger emotional extremes without any need to sit through poorly made movies, intended to repulse the viewer.
Physical torture is a somewhat fascinating subject I suppose, simple as that. Why would we watch anything but happy, cosy, carebear movies if no entertainment can realistically be found in stories of negative emotion?
As for being poorly made, HC2 is actually rather stylish in it's direction and the body effects are excellently executed.
That's a complete intellectual cop-out though. You can't say that the audience watching these films are all a bunch of perverts with sexual fantasies of being tortured, that's nonsense. Perhaps some feel that way but they're in the minority.
You might not believe it, but it is indeed the extremes of negative emotion that attracts viewers to enjoy films filled with such emotion; not just body-horror movies, but any movie with a sad, violent or otherwise negative aspect to it. That doesn't make everyone a masochistic pervert with cravings for pain and sorrow; the very notion of that being the primary reason for people enjoying horror movies is absurd.
