If it was pandering to a hard right readership then why would it be backing remain?
It’s not a hard right paper no matter how much you want to try to convince yourself it is, without even reading it.
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If it was pandering to a hard right readership then why would it be backing remain?
It’s not a hard right paper no matter how much you want to try to convince yourself it is, without even reading it.
Aside from the opinion columns, all newspapers in each genre are pretty much the same once you get beyond the editorials.
I think the Guardian is pretty unique though, in the way that their main headline might be: 'My organic toaster stopped working - should I fire the au pairs?' & the secondary one: 'WWIII declared'.
All the broadsheets are pretty excellent on non political stuff.
The Guardian isn’t a centre paper either in my opinion. It’s centre left to left. When it comes to identity politics, which makes up a lot of its coverage these days, it’s definitely on the left.
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Because you don't have to be UKIP or Britain First to be well to the right of centre.
I don't think a centrist newspaper exists. I buy the Guardian and have online subscription to the Times. In absence of a wholly moderate newspaper I think those two are probably the least hysterical on either side.
Eh that's the problem though. The Guardian's probably left of centre across all issues and columnists, but as a whole it's not very far to the left, and on some issues its either very centrist or slightly towards the right. It's certainly nowhere near as far to the left as the Times is to the right, so holding them up against each other in the search for some 'real centre' obviously creates a right wing skew.
It's sorta the problem with UK politics as a whole. A disproportionate amount of coverage is dedicated to very right wing ideas compared to very left wing ideas and as a result the perceived 'centre' of political discourse in the country is very much the centre right to the point where Corbyn's Labour, which is fairly tame in terms of its left wing views compared to other countries, is seen as somehow uniquely radical in world politics.
I'd place the Guardian as centre-left and the Times centre-right. We always have been more conservative than everyone else, other than America and Australia. Maybe it's an English-speaking thing.
Yeah, and most would agree with you. But that's my point. The only reason the Times is seen as centre-right is because of your second sentence. We know that post-Thatcher political discourse in this country is incredibly right wing and that will shape people's perception of what is right/left wing in relative terms. The Guardian would not even have to be particularly left wing (or even to the left at all) to be to the left of political discourse in the country. In the same way the Democrats would be a right wing party by UK standards but are obviously to the left of the Republicans.
It's like that last 30 years didn't happen- I mean, I'm not saying that there is an abundance of 'badass female characters', certainly not when comparing with male ones, but you need to be wilfully ignorant to claim this is the first time in fiction.
Well as long as an artist told you. Not creepy at all.
Boycott the guardian is trending on twitter, have no idea why.
Have they been mean to Jezza?
Worse, the Canary.
I didn't check although having check now it seems it's this
Also just a side this is still one of my favourite moments on the internet.
Incredible how The Guardian is being seen as right wing by the extreme far left Corbynista's now...
That's actually not entirely wrong. Get onto bodybuilding forums and it's fairly easy to detect their political affiliation.
Well take this dreadful puff piece/book promo for this dreadful Tory from today:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-conversation-about-mental-health-as-we-think
Your big "interview" is with a Tory headlining with mental health issues and you don't ask a single question about the scandalous neglect of mental health provision under her party's government. It's more a shit newspaper than a right or left one. It stopped doing its job long ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...er-of-the-city-of-london-makes-britain-poorer
One of the better articles they've done. I was very inspired reading this. Definitely going to pursue geography for my PhD now.
One of the better articles they've done. I was very inspired reading this. Definitely going to pursue geography for my PhD now.
The state of the Guardian here
It's really struggling to keep up the whole left wing paper shtick.
It's really struggling to keep up the whole left wing paper shtick.
I thought the Guardian View article was an insidious, subtly nasty piece of shit from an increasingly hysterical rag.
Utterly disgusting way to fallaciously sneak in a link to such a serious story that raises serious issues and requires serious thought. That's a text book Farage move.
Although I am glad they've come out with this as the Guardian view and not hidden it behind the incoherent dabblings of some exploited, young inexperienced blogger they've paid peanuts to. This is written to be representative of the organisation and I'll take it as such. Shithole.
Utterly disgusting way to fallaciously sneak in a link to such a serious story that raises serious issues and requires serious thought. That's a text book Farage move.
Although I am glad they've come out with this as the Guardian view and not hidden it behind the incoherent dabblings of some exploited, young inexperienced blogger they've paid peanuts to. This is written to be representative of the organisation and I'll take it as such. Shithole.
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Well said.
Michelle Obama answers the questions that matter....
Ludicrously fawning piece with ridiculous questions from Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus and Sadiq Khan talking about hashtags
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...a-interviewed-miley-cyrus-katy-perry-becoming
Ludicrously fawning piece with ridiculous questions from Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus and Sadiq Khan talking about hashtags
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...a-interviewed-miley-cyrus-katy-perry-becoming
This paper is completely useless when it comes to politics
Left
. Macron is a self described conservative
.Obama described his presidency as one similar to Republicans from 30 years ago
.Bernie Sanders isn't as left as Pablo Iglesias
.Evo Morales is more left wing than both Macron & Obama
Right
.Viktor Orban is more right wing than Trump
.Matteo Salvini is more right wing than Farage
And the biggest failure is that the majority on this graph aren't even ''populist'. Bernie Sanders isn't a populist, he's a socialist offering social democratic policies(With socialist means to achieve them).
Some people pay a monthly subscription for this analysis.
Left
. Macron is a self described conservative
.Obama described his presidency as one similar to Republicans from 30 years ago
.Bernie Sanders isn't as left as Pablo Iglesias
.Evo Morales is more left wing than both Macron & Obama
Right
.Viktor Orban is more right wing than Trump
.Matteo Salvini is more right wing than Farage
And the biggest failure is that the majority on this graph aren't even ''populist'. Bernie Sanders isn't a populist, he's a socialist offering social democratic policies(With socialist means to achieve them).
Some people pay a monthly subscription for this analysis.
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Because you don't like or agree with a graph doesn't make The Guardianal any less of a very good newspaper. It is about as centerist as you can get and still do actual investigative journalism.
I didn't say it wasn't a good newspaper I said in terms of political analysis it's shite.
It has its crap moments but generally it is very intelligent in its analysis.
It’s trash.
Their attempt to conflate populism under one big harmful umbrella, regardless of right or left, is their latest bit of garbage. Just call the fascism what it is and stop conflating it with those looking to help people.
Daniel Taylor is good though.
Their attempt to conflate populism under one big harmful umbrella, regardless of right or left, is their latest bit of garbage. Just call the fascism what it is and stop conflating it with those looking to help people.
Daniel Taylor is good though.
Huge turds
Recently, 'papers like that feature lots of self-centred columnists asking the likes of: 'Are my children hindering my Prosecco-quaffing career?'
Horrible, selfish twats.
Horrible, selfish twats.
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