The F1 Thread 2015 Season
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Exactly what they kept saying during the Abu Dhabi farce. Hopefully they get a decent number of laps in tomorrow or it's not looking great from Honda.
16:02 Here's the lap count for the day:
Rosberg - 157 laps
Ericsson - 73 laps
Bottas - 73 laps
Vettel - 60 laps
Sainz - 46 laps
Ricciardo - 35 laps
Alonso - 6 laps
16:00 And that's the chequered flag. Vettel and Ferrari top the first day of pre-season testing in 2015. Raikkonen did the same last year...
1 Vettel (Ferrari), 1m22.620s
2 Ericsson (Sauber), 1m22.777s
3 Rosberg (Mercedes), 1m23.106s
4 Ricciardo (Red Bull), 1m23.338s
5 Bottas (Williams), 1m23.906s
6 Sainz (Toro Rosso), 1m25.327s
7 Alonso (McLaren), 1m40.738s
Rosberg - 157 laps
Ericsson - 73 laps
Bottas - 73 laps
Vettel - 60 laps
Sainz - 46 laps
Ricciardo - 35 laps
Alonso - 6 laps
16:00 And that's the chequered flag. Vettel and Ferrari top the first day of pre-season testing in 2015. Raikkonen did the same last year...
1 Vettel (Ferrari), 1m22.620s
2 Ericsson (Sauber), 1m22.777s
3 Rosberg (Mercedes), 1m23.106s
4 Ricciardo (Red Bull), 1m23.338s
5 Bottas (Williams), 1m23.906s
6 Sainz (Toro Rosso), 1m25.327s
7 Alonso (McLaren), 1m40.738s
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Sorry for the noob questions, is any of this televised?
Nope, I think Sky did the last test a year or two back but it's probably not the most cost-effective televised event.
Fair enough, makes sense.
Sky Sports news have someone at the track doing updates but they don't show much on track action, the last day of testing is broadcasted live on SkyF1.
McLaren were never going to do much here, doesn't mean they won't be competitive in Melbourne. I'm still not sure what to expect from them really. Good to see Mercedes getting the laps in, no doubt Lewis will manage 5 laps tomorrow before the car has a technical problem.
Times really mean very little, teams aren't going to tip their hand in pre-season but the fact the Merc is already out there running around like a metronome doesn't bode well for the rest.
Nah we knew Merc are reliable as anything, the question is whether Renault have improved performance to the extent that Red Bull can compete.
Any ideas of tyres used on each run
Half the day gone and Mclaren have done only 5 laps.
Merc have already done 91.
Red Bull running without a front wing because Kvyat went off and broke the only one they brought to this test. How do you bring only 1 front wing to a test? That is the part of the car that gets damaged the most.
Merc have already done 91.
Red Bull running without a front wing because Kvyat went off and broke the only one they brought to this test. How do you bring only 1 front wing to a test? That is the part of the car that gets damaged the most.
Front wings take a fair bit of time to make, they must have had it in the wind tunnel up until the latest point they could to build one. Amazing they didn't bring a spare from last years car or something just so they could have a backup.
Current times:
FASTEST TIMES
P Driver Team Time
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m20.984s
2 Felipe Nasr Sauber 1m21.867s +0.883
3 Valtteri Bottas Williams 1m22.319s +1.335
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m22.490s +1.506
5 Max Verstappen Toro Rosso 1m24.167s +3.183
6 Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1m25.802s +4.818
7 Jenson Button McLaren 1m54.655s +33.671
All timing unofficial. Updated: 14:48 GMT
FASTEST TIMES
P Driver Team Time
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m20.984s
2 Felipe Nasr Sauber 1m21.867s +0.883
3 Valtteri Bottas Williams 1m22.319s +1.335
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m22.490s +1.506
5 Max Verstappen Toro Rosso 1m24.167s +3.183
6 Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1m25.802s +4.818
7 Jenson Button McLaren 1m54.655s +33.671
All timing unofficial. Updated: 14:48 GMT
Sauber have been posting some decent times over the last 2 days.
Day 2 completed.
TUESDAY'S TEST TIMES:
Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m20.984s - 88
2 Luiz Felipe Nasr Sauber/Ferrari 1m21.867s 0.883s 89
3 Valtteri Bottas Williams/Mercedes 1m22.319s 1.335s 61
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m22.490s 1.506s 91
5 Max Verstappen Toro Rosso/Renault 1m24.167s 3.183s 73
6 Pastor Maldonado Lotus/Mercedes 1m25.802s 4.818s 41
7 Jenson Button McLaren/Honda 1m54.655s 33.671s 6
8 Daniil Kvyat Red Bull/Renault - - 18
Report: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117560
TUESDAY'S TEST TIMES:
Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m20.984s - 88
2 Luiz Felipe Nasr Sauber/Ferrari 1m21.867s 0.883s 89
3 Valtteri Bottas Williams/Mercedes 1m22.319s 1.335s 61
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m22.490s 1.506s 91
5 Max Verstappen Toro Rosso/Renault 1m24.167s 3.183s 73
6 Pastor Maldonado Lotus/Mercedes 1m25.802s 4.818s 41
7 Jenson Button McLaren/Honda 1m54.655s 33.671s 6
8 Daniil Kvyat Red Bull/Renault - - 18
Report: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117560
McLaren appear to have built the MP4-18 again. Ron's even banging on about it being hyper-advanced. Deja-vu is a near constant theme supporting this team. They even gave it the same livery!
McLaren have ended their testing for the day , a problem has forced them to remove the engine to inspect it.
Not having a good testing.
Not having a good testing.
Jerez Day Three timesheet (1.05pm GMT)
1. Rosberg, Mercedes, 1:22.810, 99 laps;
2. Nasr, Sauber, 1:23.754, 57 laps;
3. Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1:24.074, 44 laps;
4. Sainz, Toro Rosso, 1:25.101, 64 laps;
5. Massa, Williams, 1:25.385, 27 laps;
6. Maldonado, Lotus, 1:25.561, 35 laps;
7. Ricciardo, Red Bull, 1:34.776, 5 laps;
8. Alonso, McLaren, 1:35.553, 32 laps;
1. Rosberg, Mercedes, 1:22.810, 99 laps;
2. Nasr, Sauber, 1:23.754, 57 laps;
3. Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1:24.074, 44 laps;
4. Sainz, Toro Rosso, 1:25.101, 64 laps;
5. Massa, Williams, 1:25.385, 27 laps;
6. Maldonado, Lotus, 1:25.561, 35 laps;
7. Ricciardo, Red Bull, 1:34.776, 5 laps;
8. Alonso, McLaren, 1:35.553, 32 laps;
I bet Alonso is loving this!
It's to be expected surely.
Honda are coming back after a gap of a few years and with the engine regs completely changed. Can't see Mclaren being competitive for atleast a year or two.
Honda are coming back after a gap of a few years and with the engine regs completely changed. Can't see Mclaren being competitive for atleast a year or two.
2015 F1 Testing Day Three Final Result
Report: http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...then-take-pain-as-pacesetters-sauber-surprise
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Driver Car Best time Laps Difference
1 Felipe Nasr Sauber-Ferrari C34 1’21.545 108
2 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari SF15-T 1’21.750 92 0.205
3 Nico Rosberg Mercedes W06 1’21.982 151 0.437
4 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes FW37 1’22.276 71 0.731
5 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Mercedes E23 1’22.713 96 1.168
6 Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso-Renault STR10 1’23.187 136 1.642
7 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault RB11 1’23.901 48 2.356
8 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Honda MP4-30 1’35.553 32 14.008Report: http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...then-take-pain-as-pacesetters-sauber-surprise
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looking at the timings for the 3 days so far , Sauber could be the surprise team next season.
Don't think it'll be Sauber, the Mercedes engine still has a country mile of speed on the Ferrari. Lotus will be the surprise package next year I think, their car looks interesting aero wise and the Mercedes engine will help them get up the grid.
Let it be said though, Mercedes have a scary amount of speed ahead of their competitors. They were 7kph ahead of the Ferrari engined Sauber in the speedtrap, with a heavy fuel load, harder tyres, and no doubt the engine not turned to max. I think they'll have a bigger gap than last year.
Let it be said though, Mercedes have a scary amount of speed ahead of their competitors. They were 7kph ahead of the Ferrari engined Sauber in the speedtrap, with a heavy fuel load, harder tyres, and no doubt the engine not turned to max. I think they'll have a bigger gap than last year.
Merc did it last pre-season too, just pound around getting mileage on high fuel loads, then rock up to Round 1 and be nearly 2 seconds ahead of everyone. It's why the times are pointless to look, they mean absolutely nothing unless you know all the different factors.
Sauber hardly have a sponsor on the car and it ain't no Brawn GP, laptimes to attract sponsors.
Sauber hardly have a sponsor on the car and it ain't no Brawn GP, laptimes to attract sponsors.
Marussia’s administrators have announced that the beleaguered team will exit administration on February 19 via a Company Voluntary Arrangement.
The Banbury-based squad missed the final three races of the 2014 season after their Russian backer, Andrey Cheglakov, pulled his backing following the Grand Prix in Sochi.
Cheglakov's Marussia Motors company had folded in April 2014 without producing a road car during its seven years in business.
A planned auction of the team’s remaining assets was cancelled in January – something former president Graeme Lowdon said was key to their survival – and they hold an official entry for the 2015 F1 season as Manor Grand Prix Limited.
"It is envisaged that, prior to the commencement of the first race of the 2015 season, investment into the business will be made upon the Company exiting from administration via a Company Voluntary Arrangement (“CVA”), which is planned for 19 February 2015," a statement from administrators Morgan Rossiter read.
"A CVA is a restructuring process agreed with the Company’s creditors which allows for a turnaround of the business and the creation of a longer term viable solution for the team."
Sky Sports News HQ’s Craig Slater understands that one of the key factors in attracting the new investment was confirmation that the team will receive their 2014 prize money – somewhere in excess of £30m.
“My understanding is that John Booth and Graeme Lowdon will be running the team and they do plan to take part in the first race,” he added.
“The Formula 1 commission meet on Thursday and they should agree to allow Marussia, or Manor as we should call them, to use last year’s car in the 2015 world championship. I understand that this deal has finally been agreed because Marussia have been allowed to keep their prize money from the 2014 season, which has effectively halved their debts.”
Marussia finished ninth in the constructors’ championship last year after scoring their first ever points at the Monaco Grand Prix.
The Banbury-based squad missed the final three races of the 2014 season after their Russian backer, Andrey Cheglakov, pulled his backing following the Grand Prix in Sochi.
Cheglakov's Marussia Motors company had folded in April 2014 without producing a road car during its seven years in business.
A planned auction of the team’s remaining assets was cancelled in January – something former president Graeme Lowdon said was key to their survival – and they hold an official entry for the 2015 F1 season as Manor Grand Prix Limited.
"It is envisaged that, prior to the commencement of the first race of the 2015 season, investment into the business will be made upon the Company exiting from administration via a Company Voluntary Arrangement (“CVA”), which is planned for 19 February 2015," a statement from administrators Morgan Rossiter read.
"A CVA is a restructuring process agreed with the Company’s creditors which allows for a turnaround of the business and the creation of a longer term viable solution for the team."
Sky Sports News HQ’s Craig Slater understands that one of the key factors in attracting the new investment was confirmation that the team will receive their 2014 prize money – somewhere in excess of £30m.
“My understanding is that John Booth and Graeme Lowdon will be running the team and they do plan to take part in the first race,” he added.
“The Formula 1 commission meet on Thursday and they should agree to allow Marussia, or Manor as we should call them, to use last year’s car in the 2015 world championship. I understand that this deal has finally been agreed because Marussia have been allowed to keep their prize money from the 2014 season, which has effectively halved their debts.”
Marussia finished ninth in the constructors’ championship last year after scoring their first ever points at the Monaco Grand Prix.
Should we start a pool on how many races they'll last?
I have my doubts if they will even start the season, even if they do they wont be anywhere but last place , they have done now work on their engine , using last seasons car.
McLaren keep denying it but I heard a while back it was them behind the Marussia re-birth, stick a Honda in the back of it and have K-Mag and Vandoorne drive it.
Caterham’s hopes of returning to the Formula 1 grid look to be over after auctioneers Wyles Hardy & Co announced they had been instructed to sell the squad’s assets.
The team entered administration ahead of the United States Grand Prix last year, but returned at the season-finale in Abu Dhabi thanks to a crowdfunding campaign.
Caterham hold an official entry for the 2015 world championship and further investment had been sought over the winter, but it appears that attempts to revive the team for the Australian Grand Prix have been unsuccessful.
The first online timed sale will take place on March 11 when the team’s race and pitlane equipment will be among the items auctioned.
The race and hospitality trailers, race simulator, autoclaves and Dell HPC super computer would be offered as negotiated sales separate from the auctions.
Last month administrator Finbarr O’Connell was still holding out hope of finding an investor, but did admit an auction would spell the end.
"As long as there are people (out) there who have got a real possibility of doing something, I'm not going to close it (the team) down," he said on January 22.
"Because if I do, then I will just be organising an auction as regards the assets – which I can do at any stage anyway."
Caterham entered F1 in 2010 as Lotus Racing before being rebranded ahead of the 2012 season. They contested a total of 94 races, but failed to score a point.
The team entered administration ahead of the United States Grand Prix last year, but returned at the season-finale in Abu Dhabi thanks to a crowdfunding campaign.
Caterham hold an official entry for the 2015 world championship and further investment had been sought over the winter, but it appears that attempts to revive the team for the Australian Grand Prix have been unsuccessful.
The first online timed sale will take place on March 11 when the team’s race and pitlane equipment will be among the items auctioned.
The race and hospitality trailers, race simulator, autoclaves and Dell HPC super computer would be offered as negotiated sales separate from the auctions.
Last month administrator Finbarr O’Connell was still holding out hope of finding an investor, but did admit an auction would spell the end.
"As long as there are people (out) there who have got a real possibility of doing something, I'm not going to close it (the team) down," he said on January 22.
"Because if I do, then I will just be organising an auction as regards the assets – which I can do at any stage anyway."
Caterham entered F1 in 2010 as Lotus Racing before being rebranded ahead of the 2012 season. They contested a total of 94 races, but failed to score a point.
Marussia's hopes of competing in the 2015 F1 season appear to have been dashed by rival teams.
The team, who were due to race under the Manor Grand Prix name, had hoped to compete this season using their 2014 car but that request has been voted down by opposing teams.
They wanted to use their old model to give them time to build a credible challenger for the 2016 campaign, but that request had to be passed by the Formula 1 Strategy Group, and failed to do so on Thursday.
"They wanted to come in with last year's car and it didn't get accepted," F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone told the Independent. "It needed all the teams to agree and there were three or four of them that didn't agree.
"The money that they should have got gets distributed amongst the teams that are racing. That's a pretty good reason I suppose. Maybe the other teams would have liked to use last year’s car. The trouble was that you can’t do these things for one team, you have got to do it for everybody."
Former J Sainsbury chief executive Justin King was looking to complete a takeover of the team but that was reportedly dependent on the Manor receiving their fee of more than £25m for finishing in the top 10 of the Constructors' Championship in back-to-back seasons.
Sky Sports News HQ understands that Marussia's would-be investors are now assessing the implications of the F1 Strategy Group's decision, and while haven't ruled out continuing to try and rescue the team, the move has put added pressure on that process. The previously announced move to come out administration on February 19 via a Company Voluntary Arrangement is still planned to go ahead.
Although Force India voted against allowing Marussia to run their 2014 car, it is understood that the outfit were reflecting a wider mood amongst their fellow teams. The FIA, meanwhile, wanted unanimity on the matter for the application to pass.
The team, who were due to race under the Manor Grand Prix name, had hoped to compete this season using their 2014 car but that request has been voted down by opposing teams.
They wanted to use their old model to give them time to build a credible challenger for the 2016 campaign, but that request had to be passed by the Formula 1 Strategy Group, and failed to do so on Thursday.
"They wanted to come in with last year's car and it didn't get accepted," F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone told the Independent. "It needed all the teams to agree and there were three or four of them that didn't agree.
"The money that they should have got gets distributed amongst the teams that are racing. That's a pretty good reason I suppose. Maybe the other teams would have liked to use last year’s car. The trouble was that you can’t do these things for one team, you have got to do it for everybody."
Former J Sainsbury chief executive Justin King was looking to complete a takeover of the team but that was reportedly dependent on the Manor receiving their fee of more than £25m for finishing in the top 10 of the Constructors' Championship in back-to-back seasons.
Sky Sports News HQ understands that Marussia's would-be investors are now assessing the implications of the F1 Strategy Group's decision, and while haven't ruled out continuing to try and rescue the team, the move has put added pressure on that process. The previously announced move to come out administration on February 19 via a Company Voluntary Arrangement is still planned to go ahead.
Although Force India voted against allowing Marussia to run their 2014 car, it is understood that the outfit were reflecting a wider mood amongst their fellow teams. The FIA, meanwhile, wanted unanimity on the matter for the application to pass.
Just joined this. looks pretty good!
Ferrari F1 Concept
Ferrari have revealed images of a radical Formula 1 concept car, amid the ongoing debate over how the sport’s challengers should look in future.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...king-images-of-aggressive-looking-concept-car
I've gown up with cars looking similar to what they are but to be honest I wouldn't mind a radical change and the second pic looks good but perhaps too close to a road sports car.
Ferrari have revealed images of a radical Formula 1 concept car, amid the ongoing debate over how the sport’s challengers should look in future.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...king-images-of-aggressive-looking-concept-car
I've gown up with cars looking similar to what they are but to be honest I wouldn't mind a radical change and the second pic looks good but perhaps too close to a road sports car.
Looks gash.
Is the helmet connected to the bodywork?
I don't want anything that revolutionary. They should concentrate on making the racing more competitive before they think about making the cars more pretty. Changes that big would make races a complete clusterfeck.
I don't want anything that revolutionary. They should concentrate on making the racing more competitive before they think about making the cars more pretty. Changes that big would make races a complete clusterfeck.
Concept
Like F-Red says it's a concept, not a blueprint.
If you want to see more competitive racing something needs to be done about the cars. Forgetting for a moment the sheer gulf between Mercedes and the rest, the aero still limits the cars running behind one another.
I like that concept, it looks a bit front heavy with all the extra bulk there but any sort of change looks a bit weird at first, I remember when they switched to wider front wings in 2009 they look ludicrous and now you don't even notice.
I wish the cars would go back to the simpler forms in the 90's.
I seem to remember the racing was pretty good back then and the cars looked great.
A lot of that would be down to the liveries though, cigarette advertising being banned may have been the right thing to do (debatably, doubt it has much effect) but it's robbed us of so many iconic colour schemes from yesteryear.
Williams sporting Rothmans, Ferrari and McLaren wearing Marlboro, McLaren moving onto West, Benetton then Renault wearing Mild Seven, etc.
I seem to remember the racing was pretty good back then and the cars looked great.
A lot of that would be down to the liveries though, cigarette advertising being banned may have been the right thing to do (debatably, doubt it has much effect) but it's robbed us of so many iconic colour schemes from yesteryear.
Williams sporting Rothmans, Ferrari and McLaren wearing Marlboro, McLaren moving onto West, Benetton then Renault wearing Mild Seven, etc.