The F1 Thread 2013 Season

Tyre management does give you "fake overtaking" though? I say nothing is wrong with the system.
 
Your still watching? It's just background noise now, I'm having a great time looking at carpet samples and paint drying.
 
Someone should do a supercut of all the time "tyres" are mentioned, I bet it would be a good hour run time.
 
So the drivers are being told to go easy on the tyres and not push too hard and then after the last pit-stops when they can finally let loose in the last few laps they are told not to pass their team-mate and just drive it home?

I like the strategy element of Formula 1 but I also like a bit of racing which hasn't really happened today
 
Ferrari winning on an Italian tyre, you can bet your arse there will be no changes even if the sport so clearly needs them.
 
Oi, Nando, Luca's on the blower.

Yeh that's kinda pathetic :lol: I can't stand Montezemalo or however the feck you spell his name.

On another note, I'm pretty sure Kimi said "fecking hell" then and Sky had to apologise :lol: I do wish they'd leave the drivers to have some privacy here though and not shove the cameras in their faces.
 
Looked like such a promising race, then completely died after about halfway. Alonso was pretty much unchallenged for most of the race, Mercs just faded completely after such a promising qualis, and Red Bull looked ordinary. Only huge surprise was both McClaren cars making top 10, otherwise worst race of the season for me. Next up Monaco, which I rarely enjoy and think it's a very glammed up showcase.
 
Wow was i wrong with my pre race prediction that Mercedes would get first win. They are utterly useless at managing their tyres. As soon as Hamilton changed tyres he was being told to watch them. Urgh did not enjoy that race. 82 pit stops is just too many. At least the championship has opened up a bit with Raikkonen just four points off Vettel.
 
Not a great race to watch. Though the result does make the championship more interesting with the top being closed up again. 80+ pit stops in a race is a joke, really takes away from the actual racing. Half the time I'm only half watching now, just waiting for the final lot of stops to be over so we can finally see where everyone is actually positioned. Yet by then half the teams have moved into cruise home with the current status quo instead of racing.
 
The number of pitstops is actually no worse than 2011. It's just a lot of over dramatisation from the media and Red Bull. Which is ironic of them saying they want to be racing, when the first instance of it in their team & they're telling drivers to turn engines down and hold station.

Gary Anderson said it well enough, there's never been a time in F1 ever where a driver has gone flat out on every lap during the race. Tyre management has always played a part, however we should penalise the likes of Lotus who have designed a car which works well with the tyres against people like RBR/Mercedes.
 
Well the rules don't suit Red Bull so they are going to complain. F1 is full of cry babies.
 
I actually don't have an issue with the amount of pitstops either, I have an issue with the driving required inbetween them. If it was 4 stops and max attack using all the tyre life throughout the stint then thats good racing, right now they are babying the tyres to even make a 4 stop work which is also probably their limit because of the amount of sets they have.

Without doubt Lotus and seemingly Ferrari have built cars that are better on tyres, but personally I want to see the fastest cars go racing, if I want to see races that are based on tyre management then I'll go watch some endurance racing which does it in a much more fun and interesting way.
 
Without doubt Lotus and seemingly Ferrari have built cars that are better on tyres, but personally I want to see the fastest cars go racing

Then i hope if Pirelli change the tyres to that of the Bridgestone ilk, you won't be the first to moan about dull racing and the winner is decided on a Saturday afternoon ;)
 
Then i hope if Pirelli change the tyres to that of the Bridgestone ilk, you won't be the first to moan about dull racing and the winner is decided on a Saturday afternoon ;)

Theres always going to be boring races, nature of certain circuits.

But at least Bridgestone racing was more pure, in fact I think if you gave the Bridgestone era DRS it could have been fantastic, the main issue with the racing back then was the impossibility of passing unless you had a massive tow and a straight line advantage, DRS solved that like it or loathe it.

They don't need to even go that extreme, they need to provide a tyre that gives a set amount of laps and on those set amount of laps you can actually go at a speed thats actually testing the driver and his car. Right now if they do any kind of laptime on the first few laps then the tyre is dead, how can that possibly be Formula 1 racing which proudly likes to call itself the pinnacle and fastest racing in the world?
 
So Honda are back, supplying McLaren with engines from 2015.

Interesting, hope this means a return to the famous white/orange colour scheme of the Senna/Prost days.

Pretty sure they only turned silver because of Mercedes, so With Honda back it could happen. :drool:
 
I don't know what it is about Monaco but every year I really look forward to it and then realise about 10 laps in that it's the worst 'race' of the year.

Here's hoping it pisses down with rain and makes it interesting.
 
I don't know what it is about Monaco but every year I really look forward to it and then realise about 10 laps in that it's the worst 'race' of the year.

Here's hoping it pisses down with rain and makes it interesting.

I am exactly the same. No overtaking, no speed, it's all about who can be quickest in the quali's. That is literally the only thing worth watching. An overglammed, overrated race that won't provide any excitement like it has done for many years.