The Damned United

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My film of the year so far, Engrossing and best movie i've seen based around football. Michael Sheen yet again nails another person perfectly, this time in the shape of Big 'Ead himself Brian Clough. It's also full of great performances for the likes of Timothy Spall, Colm Meaney, Jim Broadbent and Stephan Graham as "hardman" Billy Bremner. The only downside was it was too short and left me wanting more, especially the Nottingham Forest part of his career. Final note that any film that shows Leeds United as a bunch of pricks is good in my book.

9/10
 
I am going to see this tomorrow. This film has been panned in one or two reviews I have read as being factually inaccurate. I am going with a guy from work who is a Derby fan and will therefore be very sensitive to any such inaccuracies. Anyone else seen this and care to comment on that?

I am looking forward to it though.
 
It's based on a feckin' novel. It will by definition be factually inaccurate, to be fair.
 
I have my doubts about the concept of a ficticious account of a real person and a real period of history. But I guess if you go in knowing it is not a biographical account then there's no harm in it. I would be more excited about it if it was based on fact though. Not like reality was boring when it comes to Cloughie.
 
I have my doubts about the concept of a ficticious account of a real person and a real period of history. But I guess if you go in knowing it is not a biographical account then there's no harm in it. I would be more excited about it if it was based on fact though. Not like reality was boring when it comes to Cloughie.

Aye, I agree with that, but from what I've read he hasn't 'created' that many parts of the book, rather just written around factual events by creating dialogue and so on for particular situations that did actually happen.

The problem he faced is that the people who could remember the conversations had/have their own agendas, and you could end up with an even more fictionalised account of events than the one he presented.
 
Aye, I agree with that, but from what I've read he hasn't 'created' that many parts of the book, rather just written around factual events by creating dialogue and so on for particular situations that did actually happen.

The problem he faced is that the people who could remember the conversations had/have their own agendas, and you could end up with an even more fictionalised account of events than the one he presented.

Yeah, that is what I read. That it is true to the spirit of Cloughie rather than to any specific events / conversations that actually happened.

My mate from Derby can tell me how successful it is in achieving that.
 
I went to see this yesterday, its good.

Micheal Shields is an excellant actor (yes, I know thats not his name), he was good in Frost/Nixon too.

They did a good job of making Don Revie & Billy Bremner out to be right cnuts.

8/10
 
It has been exaggerated a bit apparently but you get an idea of what the guy achieved. I was well impressed with what he had done with Derby after they got battered and disrespected by Leeds.
 
I went to see this yesterday, its good.

Micheal Shields is an excellant actor (yes, I know thats not his name), he was good in Frost/Nixon too.

They did a good job of making Don Revie & Billy Bremner out to be right cnuts.

8/10

:lol:

Its Michael Sheen.

Michael Shields is serving 10 years in a Bulgarian prison.
 
I'm going to see this tonight, although i'd call myself a big football fan i'm not exactly dying to see this film. Football films have always been something of a let down so not really sure what to expect.

Will be interesting.
 
Aye, I agree with that, but from what I've read he hasn't 'created' that many parts of the book, rather just written around factual events by creating dialogue and so on for particular situations that did actually happen.

The problem he faced is that the people who could remember the conversations had/have their own agendas, and you could end up with an even more fictionalised account of events than the one he presented.

Its fictionalised account of the events. As you say, some of the situations did happen, some have been written about in players autobiographies, but David Peace has made up most, if not all of the dialog. So much so that Johnny Giles took the publishers to court and won.

The majority of the book is played out in Cloughs minds, which i think tells you all you need to know about how much of a true account this is.

If you read the book, you would believe that Clough was a chain smoker and Alcoholic in the early 70's - his wife has said that his drink problem and smoking only started in the late 70s/early 80s. Hes also portrayed as a heavy swearer, which again those who knew him said wasn’t true.

There is a scene in the book where Clough burns Don Revies desk in front of his son, Nigel. Again, this didn’t happen.

I can understand why the Clough family are so unhappy with the book, though i beleive the film paints Clough in a much better light.

Despite that, the book is fantastic. I think i will go and see the film this week.
 
Just back from seeing it, very impressed. I like most it seems wanted the film to carry on further. Sheen was outstanding as Clough and as has been said the rest of the cast were also brilliant.

Highly recommend seeing it to anyone, one of the best football based films i've seen - which isn't really hard I know but don't let that detract from what a good film this is!
 
Saw it tonight, enjoyed it a lot.

What my Derby supporting mate found most egregious about it was the TV interview at the end with Clough and Revie. In real life, I am told, Clough gave a far better account of himself.
 
What my Derby supporting mate found most egregious about it was the TV interview at the end with Clough and Revie. In real life, I am told, Clough gave a far better account of himself.

He did, it was on the ITV Clough documentary. Gonna go see this at the weekend I think.
 
Saw it tonight, enjoyed it a lot.

What my Derby supporting mate found most egregious about it was the TV interview at the end with Clough and Revie. In real life, I am told, Clough gave a far better account of himself.

Not sure about the film, but in the book, that scene is written exactly as it happened - Clough being consolidatory, yet in total control.

Which is in start contrast to the rest of the book.
 
I've got no sound at work - but that's teh first time i've seen actual footage of that interview and its quite brilliant how the characters are so alike. Even down to seeing Clough laughing, Sheen has that perfected in the film!
 
Very entertaining film, obviously taken a dramatic license but none the less enjoyable for it. Michael Sheen was excellent.

I loved the movie. Sheen is also very good in Frost/Nixon.

Must have serious talent to portray Clough and Frost and do it very well
 
I would frankly be quite disgusted should anyone deign to drop me a PM with the contents of a torrent to this film. Disgusted.
 
i watched this film last night and i have to say michael sheen was quite brilliant as clough.
i remember this quite well as we always admired clough and thought he got a raw deal at leeds.
towards the end of his days there, the express published a picture of madeley and giles smirking at him, which showed their complete lack of respect for him.
 
Just finished watching it yesterday, good solid movie. However i'm still trying to figure out why they cast that cockney actor as Billy Bremner. Surely they could have found a decent Scotish actor in better shape.
 
I watched this yesterday. I don't know an awful lot about Clough, but I could believe there were a few scenes that took some liberties. But what a performance from Michael Sheen. Couldn't take my eyes off him, he was brilliant.
 
Not sure if anyone's aware, but this is a movie based on Brian Clough's tenure at Leeds. I haven't seen any threads about it, nor seen any mention of the film around these parts so I thought I'd post this here.

Here's the synopsis:

Taking over England's top football club Leeds United, previously successful manager Brian Clough's abrasive approach and his clear dislike of the players' dirty style of play make it certain there is going to be friction. Glimpses of his earlier career help explain both his hostility to previous manager Don Revie and how much he is missing right-hand man Peter Taylor who has loyally stayed with Brighton & Hove Albion.

Anyway apparently it's really an excellent movie, so below are some links to download the film (I'm not too sure what the etiquette on here is regarding links to download, so if I'm doing something wrong please let me know and I'll just PM the links to anyone who wants them). Enjoy.

 
:lol:

fecking hell. It's like when I can't find my fecking glasses/phone/wallet yet I'm holding the bloody thing, or it's on the fecking desk right in front of me.

ANUS.

Could someone please merge this into this into the other thread?
 
so if anyone wants to download this movie i posted some links up in the thread i (somewhat stupidly) created.