They'd look better in gold than that awful yellow we use now though.
I must admit, I prefer the white background on the crest too. Looks more striking - especially from a distance.
As for the cheapo new crests, they were used on last season's away and third kits too.
Anyway, what do you reckon of this version then (click for 1680x1050 version):
Looks good. I wish the current one looked like that. The stars look a bit dodgy as if they were just plonked on top of the crest.
Would it be possible for you to upload a version without the white background but keeping the stars please? I've got the one without the stars as my bg and I have to say I love your work!On my wallpaper? I wasn't sure where/how to place them really. Curved or in a straight line, or whether they should be all the same size or not. I prefer the crest without them to be honest.
By the way, I found this in an old thread:
Anyone any idea where the image originally came from or that has a larger version?
There are a few more photos of crests on my Flickr page by the way.
Many thanks!
Yes, it was run as a business prior to 1998, but it was still a football club run as a business. The removal of "football club" made into a business with football being merely one of their products. Manchester United became a brand first, football club second.Forgive me but I think United were run like a business certainly under Martin and Louis Edwards.
I understand what you mean though.
Love the three stars above the crest:
Probably a very silly question this, but how come that Moscow shirt has 3 stars when we won our third in Moscow?
Probably retailed after the final. Not that I can recall ever seeing them during my weekly pilgrimage to the Megastore.
Where does this one fit in?
Deffo my favourite design that one.
It's a bit of a controversial subject really. The fact is that United adopted the Red Devils nickname under Matt Busby (the actual period when this happened seems to be something that no-one can agree on, but Jimmy Murphy's biography names their first post-war United team as "the Red Devils", although it was obviously written much later). Apparently it was because he had heard the name used in reference to the Salford City Reds rugby side.
The devil was used on club souvenirs and programmes in the sixties before being incorporated into the crest in 1970.
They'd look better in gold than that awful yellow we use now though.
You say this in your opening post:
In 1993, again there was a minor change - the white lettering was replaced by gold, as was the red ship:
Yet the picture above it, from 94 has white lettering. Care to explain? Great thread btw.
It's a bit of a controversial subject really. The fact is that United adopted the Red Devils nickname under Matt Busby (the actual period when this happened seems to be something that no-one can agree on, but Jimmy Murphy's biography names their first post-war United team as "the Red Devils", although it was obviously written much later). Apparently it was because he had heard the name used in reference to the Salford City Reds rugby side.
The devil was used on club souvenirs and programmes in the sixties before being incorporated into the crest in 1970.
I went to just about all United games in the sixties but I just don't recall ever using or being aware of the Red Devils nickname during that time. Maybe just getting senile.
Is it true that the City of Manchester crest was abandoned because of the detail involved or was it just used for cup finals?
I liked the old programme logo with the fan shaking hands with the player across a football, a symbolism that,sadly, seems a bit dated now.
Great thread. Thanks
I went to just about all United games in the sixties but I just don't recall ever using or being aware of the Red Devils nickname during that time. Maybe just getting senile.
Is it true that the City of Manchester crest was abandoned because of the detail involved or was it just used for cup finals?
I liked the old programme logo with the fan shaking hands with the player across a football, a symbolism that,sadly, seems a bit dated now.
Great thread. Thanks
How do you remember Red Devils becoming a common nick then? It's incredible to think that it might have snuck up on the fans from an unknown source. I'm just 34 so I've always thought of the club as the Red Devils.
Not quite sure what you mean. I'm about twice your age and I remember a lot about the fifties and sixties but I just don't remember United ever being referred to as the Red Devils during that period. I'm not saying they weren't.Maybe some of the other old farts on here can help me out.
Where does this one fit in?
Deffo my favourite design that one.
Aye, Salford RL called themselves the red devils before we did
Not quite sure what you mean. I'm about twice your age and I remember a lot about the fifties and sixties but I just don't remember United ever being referred to as the Red Devils during that period. I'm not saying they weren't.Maybe some of the other old farts on here can help me out.
I wasn't a match going Red in the 1960's but I have a 1957 publication about the Busby Babes and it refers to the Red Devils on the cover. So from an historical perspective we have a reference point from that era.
Interestingly. in 1910, our nickname was 'The Units'. I am not sure where it came from.....possibly an abbreviation of 'United' but it is referenced in an old programme of the day.
This interests me quite a bit so I will do some research with all my memorabilia and see what comes up.
I thought back in the early days they were refered to as simply "The United", rather than "The Units". I have a few facsimile newspaper reports and I've never read the later phrase in any of them.