The centre-forward market...

sglowrider said:
I think thats the most likely scenario when you consider our dire needs in multiple positions -- unless we stumble into a lot of cash suddenly.
The minimum spend to fix most of this season's issues will be another 200m budget.
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I am thinking more like £300m will be needed coming down to £220m net spend. Unless we do our scouting extremely well we are looking at a £180m bill for the striker and CM that we desperately need, £40m for a CB upgrade, £30m on a RB or maybe we will spend £50m on Timber to play as RB and cover for the CB and then you are looking at the goalkeeper situation -DDG is a legend but he is a walking press trigger. We also need reliable cover for Casemiro.

The only players we can sell for above £20m are Maguire, Henderson and McTominay. Its a monumental but necessary task, there is an opening at the top which Arsenal have capitalized on, with City and Liverpool in transition. Soon Newcastle will solidify themselves in the top three, Chelsea could stumble on a goalscorer and good manager in the summer and our window of opportunity would have closed. So we need to strengthen especially in those positions that make us vulnerable against the press.
Sarni said:
I would honestly rather sign another loanee for a season, someone better than Weghorst but not top tier that would come cheap and get our first choice targets in other positions. I think our mistake over the years has been going for players who were barely good enough but were available and willing to come here. We should go strictly for our top targets only.
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I don't think next season will be the time to half arse ourselves on this problem. A decision and action on that decision is needed. We finally have a chance to catch up on the likes of City abd at least keep pace with the likes of Newcastle. If we go into next season with more glaring weaknesses then that window of opportunity gets closed and we could be left behind for a long time.

We need at least three big signings to address our goalscoring and vulnerability to the press issues.
 
Beachryan said:
Given that outside of Kane just about any CF is a 'risk', I'd hope we try and buy a few promising/potential ones that have the right characteristics, rather than splash big money on a Ferguson who has played what, 10 games at senior level? That's insanity imo.

I cannot believe there aren't some pretty talented forwards across Europe that aren't making headlines we could be in for that have some physicality, pace and pressing ability. Players more in the Firminho mold, back when he was signed.
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Definitely, and Kane is also a big risk. Age and durability. He has played so much football lately.

It is not easy to buy a striker. Just look at Chelsea. Lukaku, Werner and Morata all busted.

I think Oshimen is the lowest risk signing — but I am far from convinced that he can be had. Lazio got a good shot the CL this and next season — if they can keep the team together.

Vlahovic is the one that scares me the most, but I don’t think we would be in on him with ETH here.

I have to be honest, I am not against him per se, but Ferguson also scares me. He is a good player, smart, big and fairly skilled. But — what is his potential? He is not a very energetic player. Doesn’t play with a lot of emotions. Not a monster in the air. Not an elite threat speed wise. Not a standout when pressing. I am a bit undecided on him. How good is he really?

Højlund definitely don’t have elite technique yet, but the speed and attitude is there. All comes down to the price with him. Could be a recipe for disaster if he comes in with a big price tag. But long term it’s hard to not see him work out as at least a back-up striker.

Sesko is an elite talent. Sure he is still raw, but I think he is the biggest talent out there, only rivaled by perhaps Endrick.

Ivan Toney probably make more sense that he is credited with at this point. He is a ridiculously good finisher, good in the air, good on the counter attack, can be nifty in the linkup play. But it’s probably there I also think he got the most adjusting to do. Right now Mbuemo — who also has been fantastic for Brentford — and Toney just go at it and feed of each other. But how well would Toney work in a more structured environment?
 
Messier1994 said:
Ivan Toney probably make more sense that he is credited with at this point. He is a ridiculously good finisher, good in the air, good on the counter attack, can be nifty in the linkup play. But it’s probably there I also think he got the most adjusting to do. Right now Mbuemo — who also has been fantastic for Brentford — and Toney just go at it and feed of each other. But how well would Toney work in a more structured environment?
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Toney would have been a really good shout, but let's see how long he's suspended for first.
 
Ideally we sign a striker who can get involved with buildup but also pace in behind, however who out there fits that criteria and obtainable this summer
 
croadyman said:
Ideally we sign a striker who can get involved with buildup but also pace in behind, however who out there fits that criteria and obtainable this summer
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Randal kolo muani could be the answer but might have to pay over the odds for him as well.
 
croadyman said:
Ideally we sign a striker who can get involved with buildup but also pace in behind, however who out there fits that criteria and obtainable this summer
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Rasmus hojlund. To me he is a much better bet in comparison to even harland. Harland is big, fast, great finisher but doesnt have great link play. Harlands foot work leaves alot to be desired. Rasmus on the other hand has all of features. He is big, fast, good finisher and has great feet and great link up play. Its a no brainer for me, we should take rasmus over even evan ferguson. Kane, Goncalo ramos and osihmen are too expensive to justify their signing. Kane in particular is slowing down and more or less doing the bruno role. We need rasmus
 
Something I don’t hear hardly at all on here is any concern about Osimhen‘s achievement with Napoli this season - they’re going to win Serie A for the first time in I think 30 odd years and he’s going to become an absolute legend there. How hungry will he be after this season to come straight in and humbly work his socks off. Kane on the other hand must surely be desperate for silverware now. Him plus Fergusson does feel like a massive squad upgrade.

Personally, I’d be shooting higher and going all out for Mbappe with new ownership money. Not sure why most fans here are lacking that ambition. We’re the biggest club in the world.
 
i think Fergusson will end up at Newcastle for mega money. Seems like an Eddie Howe signing and they can afford to splash the cash on lower tier players
 
cpresc said:
Kane on the other hand must surely be desperate for silverware now. Him plus Fergusson does feel like a massive squad upgrade.
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There is zero chance we get Kane and Ferguson. Pick one. At best we get one expensive striker and a cheap backup.
cpresc said:
Personally, I’d be shooting higher and going all out for Mbappe with new ownership money. Not sure why most fans here are lacking that ambition. We’re the biggest club in the world.
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There are FFP rules so we can't just spend £250m on Mbappe and also cover other positions in the squad. Even if it's actually possible to get PSG to sell.
 
Mwooyo said:
Rasmus hojlund. To me he is a much better bet in comparison to even harland. Harland is big, fast, great finisher but doesnt have great link play. Harlands foot work leaves alot to be desired. Rasmus on the other hand has all of features. He is big, fast, good finisher and has great feet and great link up play. Its a no brainer for me, we should take rasmus over even evan ferguson. Kane, Goncalo ramos and osihmen are too expensive to justify their signing. Kane in particular is slowing down and more or less doing the bruno role. We need rasmus
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Still think Utd see him in that potential tier right now and we want someone either in first (Kane/Osimhen) or middle tier (Ramos/Kolo-Muani/Vlahovic) but could be wrong
 
Feels like supply is finally matching demand for the first time in an eternity. My ranking based on who I would most like us to sign:

1) Osimhen
2) Kane
3) Ferguson
4) Hojlund
5) Ramos
6) Watkins
7) Kolo Muani

Ivan Toney would have been nice and high up this list, but the looming suspension makes that transfer far too risky.
 
MalaysianRed7 said:
Feels like supply is finally matching demand for the first time in an eternity. My ranking based on who I would most like us to sign:

1) Osimhen
2) Kane
3) Ferguson
4) Hojlund
5) Ramos
6) Watkins
7) Kolo Muani

Ivan Toney would have been nice and high up this list, but the looming suspension makes that transfer far too risky.
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Kolo-Muani would push up to maybe 4th and Hojlund to 3rd. Still unsure about this Ramos despite his hattrick. Totally agree that Toney isn't on list for that exact reason
 
MalaysianRed7 said:
Feels like supply is finally matching demand for the first time in an eternity. My ranking based on who I would most like us to sign:

1) Osimhen
2) Kane
3) Ferguson
4) Hojlund
5) Ramos
6) Watkins
7) Kolo Muani

Ivan Toney would have been nice and high up this list, but the looming suspension makes that transfer far too risky.
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What is making you put Osimhen 1st then,would it be you feel age and pace is a better fit than Kane's build up and play
 
croadyman said:
What is making you put Osimhen 1st then,would it be you feel age and pace is a better fit than Kane's build up and play
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Age yes, and the fact that we have multiple quality creative outlets in Eriksen and Bruno already. We need a cold blooded finisher, someone like Osimhen (only player to score more goals than Rashford in 2023), rather than a player like Kane who drops deep very often.

At the same time though, Kane might just be doing it because of how poor his teammates at Spurs are.
 
MalaysianRed7 said:
Feels like supply is finally matching demand for the first time in an eternity. My ranking based on who I would most like us to sign:

1) Osimhen
2) Kane
3) Ferguson
4) Hojlund
5) Ramos
6) Watkins
7) Kolo Muani

Ivan Toney would have been nice and high up this list, but the looming suspension makes that transfer far too risky.
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Everyone in the above list seems to be an expensive investment.
Given our centre-forward situation this season I am certain that if we have a quick and decent finisher we would be doing well. Although would not mind a all-round centre forward, given our current options in midfield and wings we dont need centre-forward to contribute from midfield /build-up from back etc. We just need one who is decent finisher but also very quick feet who can be avaiable for quick releases from our wingers.

Is Vlahovic not an option for us ? Should be inexpensive( thinking 60-80) considering his form & Juventus troubles. Would prefer a player who is playing average/decent and has potential rather buying players having a blinder season.
 
Think I'd go for Kudus. I really like his versatility

LW - Sancho Garnacho Rashford
RW - Antony Kudus
ST - Martial, Kudus, Rashford
 
MalaysianRed7 said:
Feels like supply is finally matching demand for the first time in an eternity. My ranking based on who I would most like us to sign:

1) Osimhen
2) Kane
3) Ferguson
4) Hojlund
5) Ramos
6) Watkins
7) Kolo Muani

Ivan Toney would have been nice and high up this list, but the looming suspension makes that transfer far too risky.
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For me it would either be:

Osimhen or

Kane with either Ferguson/Hojlund

Also agree with the bolded
 
SAF is the GOAT said:
Mate he scored against bloody Waalwijk, calm down
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Also against Lazio, Ajax and whomever we played the last 7 games. He hadnt scored against RKC yet when I posted this.

Lastly, I said quote me in 3 years, you're 2 years 364 days 23 hours and 24 minutes early.
 
We have got multiple needs other than ST, so plunging for a large part of our budget on Kane isn't going to get us the title. I would prefer we build out the squad and ensure the glaring holes at CM, RB and GK are addressed. Add a back-up CB if Maguire or Lindelof leaves and a younger DM, you can see this still needs some smart recruiting. As long as the fee comes in below 80m, I wouldn't be against getting a striker among RKM/Leao/Ramos and getting in a younger ST such as Joao Pedro of Watford, who can also play multiple roles in attack as well.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
We have got multiple needs other than ST, so plunging for a large part of our budget on Kane isn't going to get us the title. I would prefer we build out the squad and ensure the glaring holes at CM, RB and GK are addressed. Add a back-up CB if Maguire or Lindelof leaves and a younger DM, you can see this still needs some smart recruiting. As long as the fee comes in below 80m, I wouldn't be against getting a striker among RKM/Leao/Ramos and getting in a younger ST such as Joao Pedro of Watford, who can also play multiple roles in attack as well.
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I understand what you're saying but:

1. (I'm sure most of us would agree) Striker is our biggest priority this summer so should demand the most attention. We simply can't have yet more seasons having to lean on the talented but unreliable Martial or the disgraced Greenwood.
2. I can't see Benfica accepting less than £80m for Ramos after the season he is having especially after they have just fleeced Chelsea for £100m+ . They aren't mugs in the transfer market and usually get a good fee. Leao is interesting as he is running into the last year of his contract. However if he signs a new deal then there's no way he'd come in at under £80m and even if he doesn't I still think they'll be asking for a figure in that ball park.
3. How much do you think Joao Pedro will cost? He has a contact until 2028. Transfermarkt has his value estimated at €24m. Because of the length of the contract I think Watford would ask for anywhere between £30-45m.
 
Messier1994 said:
Definitely, and Kane is also a big risk. Age and durability. He has played so much football lately.

It is not easy to buy a striker. Just look at Chelsea. Lukaku, Werner and Morata all busted.

I think Oshimen is the lowest risk signing — but I am far from convinced that he can be had. Lazio got a good shot the CL this and next season — if they can keep the team together.

Vlahovic is the one that scares me the most, but I don’t think we would be in on him with ETH here.

I have to be honest, I am not against him per se, but Ferguson also scares me. He is a good player, smart, big and fairly skilled. But — what is his potential? He is not a very energetic player. Doesn’t play with a lot of emotions. Not a monster in the air. Not an elite threat speed wise. Not a standout when pressing. I am a bit undecided on him. How good is he really?

Højlund definitely don’t have elite technique yet, but the speed and attitude is there. All comes down to the price with him. Could be a recipe for disaster if he comes in with a big price tag. But long term it’s hard to not see him work out as at least a back-up striker.

Sesko is an elite talent. Sure he is still raw, but I think he is the biggest talent out there, only rivaled by perhaps Endrick.

Ivan Toney probably make more sense that he is credited with at this point. He is a ridiculously good finisher, good in the air, good on the counter attack, can be nifty in the linkup play. But it’s probably there I also think he got the most adjusting to do. Right now Mbuemo — who also has been fantastic for Brentford — and Toney just go at it and feed of each other. But how well would Toney work in a more structured environment?
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I've long thought that Toney and Sesko would be a masterstroke of two signings at the position that would cost the price of one Kane or Osimhen. As has been said, there's no perfect prospect to chase in the market currently even at the high end and we need depth there as well. Toney would be great for us I think and would give us breathing room in the budget to sign another bright prospect that wouldn't mind being the understudy. Problem is the whole gambling saga with Toney, clubs won't want to take that risk until they know what the outcome is.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
We have got multiple needs other than ST, so plunging for a large part of our budget on Kane isn't going to get us the title. I would prefer we build out the squad and ensure the glaring holes at CM, RB and GK are addressed. Add a back-up CB if Maguire or Lindelof leaves and a younger DM, you can see this still needs some smart recruiting. As long as the fee comes in below 80m, I wouldn't be against getting a striker among RKM/Leao/Ramos and getting in a younger ST such as Joao Pedro of Watford, who can also play multiple roles in attack as well.
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I think you make a good point about squad depth, but I think it’s overstating things to say we have glaring holes at GK and RB. We could upgrade those two positions to be certain, but neither are glaring holes imo. A starting 8 and depth at 6 behind Casemiro are both major needs. An elite CF is also an absolute must and arguably the highest priority this summer. Depth at CB, GK and RB, in that order, are less important by a good margin imo. AWB is capable of playing winning football for a contending side. He lacks elite service, but he has contributed to possession and link up play in the final 3rd since his return from injury this season. Dalot could be sold, but he provides quality squad depth imo. If he wants to stay and compete, I would be fairly content with RB this summer, given how pressing our other needs are. De Gea has well known weaknesses with his feet and coming off his line to snagcrosses, but he still provides spectacular moments in goal and keeps us in games. We could upgrade there, but it’s not a given that any of the guys do that that I’m seeing mentioned. CB should be upgraded. Maguire and Lindelof simply aren’t good enough. If we can upgrade Maguire, I’d be content with Lindelof as a 4th option. But given what we’ve seen this season, I believe two CM’s are the priority along with CF.
 
Just a rumour, not say where this has originated from but allegedly Patrick Bamford had been spoken about behind the scenes as someone who can hold the ball up and make things happen with link up play, for a more realistic price. As alternate to Wout. Watch this space
 
Kingslayer18 said:
We have got multiple needs other than ST, so plunging for a large part of our budget on Kane isn't going to get us the title. I would prefer we build out the squad and ensure the glaring holes at CM, RB and GK are addressed. Add a back-up CB if Maguire or Lindelof leaves and a younger DM, you can see this still needs some smart recruiting. As long as the fee comes in below 80m, I wouldn't be against getting a striker among RKM/Leao/Ramos and getting in a younger ST such as Joao Pedro of Watford, who can also play multiple roles in attack as well.
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I hear you, but let's think about our realistic goals for next season. If we think even if we brought in Kane and a central midfielder to partner with Casemiro and Bruno that we'd still be short of what's required to compete with City and Arsenal for the PL trophy then of course we go with the striker-in-development option in order to free up funds to strengthen our "multiple needs" so that we can compete two seasons from now.

But if I'm reading your post correctly, you would want the CM, RB and GK positions upgraded first and then ST position "as well".

With all due respect, I question your priorities.

We do not have a proven striker. This is fact, even if you believe Martial will return to his glorious form from 3 seasons ago. I'm not going to go into a Martial tirade right here but it is not disputable that by far by the biggest hole in the squad is the striker position.

I would upgrade the CM position as well, but not at the expense of a prem-proven striker. Unless your name is Haaland or Van Nistelrooy, it's incredibly difficult to come from another league and be instantly productive at the CF position. We know the reasons why.

An upgrade on the RB position is not a higher priority than bringing in a proper striker.

There's been a lot of talk about upgrading on De Gea. Whatever one thinks about that, it's simply not a higher priority than bringing in a proper striker.

A backup CB and a younger DM (we actually have one who looks very promising) are important add-ons for depth, but neither will address our woefulness on goal, which by far away is our most serious glaring deficiency. Sure, we beat Everton 2-0 over the weekend, but we should have been out of sight by the 35 minute and would have been had we had a proven striker like Kane who puts away half-chances for fun.

If Levy demands 150m and is willing to risk losing Kane on a free transfer the following season then there's nothing we can do about that and we move on. If Kane wants to remain at Spurs and remain trophyless for an entire career then we're done. But if there is a deal to be had -- and by June (when the summer transfer window opens) we will have a new owner whoever that owner will be will not want to pinch pennies to going for a RB or a backup CB and pass up a proven world class striker like Kane.
 
I just hope no matter who we sign, sesko will be added as backup,dude is made for the top.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
We have got multiple needs other than ST, so plunging for a large part of our budget on Kane isn't going to get us the title. I would prefer we build out the squad and ensure the glaring holes at CM, RB and GK are addressed. Add a back-up CB if Maguire or Lindelof leaves and a younger DM, you can see this still needs some smart recruiting. As long as the fee comes in below 80m, I wouldn't be against getting a striker among RKM/Leao/Ramos and getting in a younger ST such as Joao Pedro of Watford, who can also play multiple roles in attack as well.
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I think striker is the one position you absolutely need an elite player if you really want to compete for the league so its justified that you spend a disproportionate fee in that area and its especially pertinent for us when we have such paltry options at number 9.
 
Anyone who has watched Ferguson play, can you compare him to a striker he's most similar to?

I've heard good things but I don't watch Brighton.
 
golden_blunder said:
Just a rumour, not say where this has originated from but allegedly Patrick Bamford had been spoken about behind the scenes as someone who can hold the ball up and make things happen with link up play, for a more realistic price. As alternate to Wout. Watch this space
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As our backup striker or our new no 9? Decent player, but if we can't afford Kane or Osimhen then Toney should be our target unless he gets a 6 month ban.
 
golden_blunder said:
Just a rumour, not say where this has originated from but allegedly Patrick Bamford had been spoken about behind the scenes as someone who can hold the ball up and make things happen with link up play, for a more realistic price. As alternate to Wout. Watch this space
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Classy player who has been ruined by injuries. He doesn't even look good enough for Leeds anymore. Pity, has a lovely touch but don't think he'd ever be good enough for what we need, plus will miss swathes of the season due to injury. Don't need another of those strikers!
 
WhyYouGottaBeSoRuud? said:
I understand what you're saying but:

1. (I'm sure most of us would agree) Striker is our biggest priority this summer so should demand the most attention. We simply can't have yet more seasons having to lean on the talented but unreliable Martial or the disgraced Greenwood.
2. I can't see Benfica accepting less than £80m for Ramos after the season he is having especially after they have just fleeced Chelsea for £100m+ . They aren't mugs in the transfer market and usually get a good fee. Leao is interesting as he is running into the last year of his contract. However if he signs a new deal then there's no way he'd come in at under £80m and even if he doesn't I still think they'll be asking for a figure in that ball park.
3. How much do you think Joao Pedro will cost? He has a contact until 2028. Transfermarkt has his value estimated at €24m. Because of the length of the contract I think Watford would ask for anywhere between £30-45m.
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1. True, striker is our biggest priority but we also need to be smart about it
2. Benfica likely will as they still haven't upgraded Ramos's contract which he is apparently pissed about. They apparently have a younger prospect who they feel will be even better than Ramos. I definitely feel they would consider a deal of 80m for Ramos a good fee. Leao's contract talks have been going on for ages and the longer it goes on, the more you think Milan will put him on the market soon to get a fee if no agreement is reached.
3. Watford will be stuck in the Championship next season with no PL parachute payments to help them. I think a deal of 30-35 for Joao Pedro is do-able
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
As our backup striker or our new no 9? Decent player, but if we can't afford Kane or Osimhen then Toney should be our target unless he gets a 6 month ban.
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What if Toney and Ferguson/Hojlund can be done in one window? Would Toney's potential ban be an issue if we have a young striker to share the load with our resident crock Martial for those six months knowing that he will come in around January? A 6 month ban shouldn't prevent us from a long term interest if it can be mitigated.
 
Bojan Djordjic said:
Spurs need a rebuild now and they are better off taking the 70/80mn now in order to do that.

Personally think Hjolund and Ferguson will outstrip all those second tier guys in the next season or so. Don't really think Vlahovic belongs in that second tier either.
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This!!

We aren't selling Martial this season, so I would bring in Hojlund (rumoured buyout clause of around £40m?), and next season get Kane for free, and then get Ferguson for free when his contract is up. I wouldn't say no to Vitor Roque either.
 
Pickle85 said:
60 million on Ferguson is crazy money given how little he's proved imo. My money is on him being a midtable prem striker at best in a few seasons.
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Disagree to be honest. I think he looks nailed on to be a really good striker.

Players like Ivan Toney will be 60+Million and Ferguson will be at least that good.
 
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