Bah, we are struck, let me tag a few more.
The 442 Draft - QF - Sjor/GSTQ vs Isotope/Himannv
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Kindly settle the draw and pick a winner in this game. You cant vote anymore but you can comment your vote on who will win. Only the first vote counts
Kindly settle the draw and pick a winner in this game. You cant vote anymore but you can comment your vote on who will win. Only the first vote counts
Go on with one of your detailed explanations and end the game for us mate. Didn't think we would have to wait this long after tagging 15 people
I pick GSTQ team because he has Cabrini who can attract a lot of girls to stadium. I like a handsome guy like Cabrini, he’s my boy.
Since everyone seems shy, I have reopened the poll, so you don't need to comment and can just vote.
The first vote wins. God help us if this doesn't lead to a result too
The first vote wins. God help us if this doesn't lead to a result too
Done.Since everyone seems shy, I have reopened the poll, so you don't need to comment and can just vote.
The first vote wins. God help us if this doesn't lead to a result too
I'm really sorry @Isotope & @Himannv, you don't deserve to lose here but since we've had to choose someone...
Went with Scholes as I like the use of him and his highlighted role.
Oh wow, I just seen the tag and votes himanv. Guess I was ten mins too late to put them through
We can always wait for the next vote
Thanks, all the info was there to solve the puzzle really
Congrats, mate. A win by fabolous team.
Sorry our adventure is ended too soon, @Himannv . Proud of the team we built with vision.
Your team are absolutely superb, mate.
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Hey, thanks General. Surprisingly so many good teams all around Rd. 2. Too many draft junkies who know their onions here.
Yeh. It's all a matter of preference, mate.
Had high hopes for this team - was great fun building this with you! I apologize if I ruined your plans with my somewhat ridiculous ideas.
I don't know about ridiculous, but they do lead to some excellent in game debate - wouldn't have been half the game without Passarella and Boniek. Was actually calming and fun to sit back and watch you guys and @antohan going back and forth
Didn't want to post this during the game for obvious reasons but I was studying Desailly's suitability in this team and setup before the game and came across a brilliant tactical analysis of the 1994 European Cup Final where Capello and Milan's 4-4-2 with Desailly in midfield smashed Cruyff's dream team. Desailly had a great game himself. Worth a read IMO
http://lankyguyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/classic-match-series-ac-milan-4-0.html?m=1
cc: @Isotope @Himannv
http://lankyguyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/classic-match-series-ac-milan-4-0.html?m=1
cc: @Isotope @Himannv
yeh. I watched the whole game. They had Donadoni - Desailly - Albertini - Boban in midfield. Desailly did his part but wasn't really the star. Maldini ate Romario alive there. Boban was surprisingly very good in that RM role.
Barca almost had no chance. They just couldn't get enough ball to the frontline. Savicevic as SS absolutely destroyed Barca's backline with his workrate, running skill and stretching the play.
That's why i was tempted to have Stoickhov as SS role, but I was surprised not many thought it was a good idea (in that Edgar's game comments).
Barca almost had no chance. They just couldn't get enough ball to the frontline. Savicevic as SS absolutely destroyed Barca's backline with his workrate, running skill and stretching the play.
That's why i was tempted to have Stoickhov as SS role, but I was surprised not many thought it was a good idea (in that Edgar's game comments).
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lovely team boys and a good debate as well
Initially i thought you guys were one of the favorites, not really a fan of the route you guys took in the RR though.
Initially i thought you guys were one of the favorites, not really a fan of the route you guys took in the RR though.
I really know your purpose to be honest @Isotope , I really think that you may took some inspiration from Milan's highline during 90s. I can see some similarities about your backline vs Milan's backline. I'm sure you want Passarella act as Baresi in your front4. Baresi was a commander of their backline especially offside trap, had a freedom to joining attacks a lot of times and had a stopper in front of him. You have 2 midfielders that have a hell of stamina and skills to win the ball back as fast as they can when they lose possession, you have an aggressive mentality gk in Yashin and your wingers have enough workrate that really important in this system too.
Tbh, in high line I really rate the importance of communication and positioning more than a pace of defender. Communication and organizing are the keys of high line for me, you should or even must have a vocal defender who can shout or yell at you for organize their defense. Passarella can't act as a libero for sure in this system but he will act cb in left zone or right zone who has some freedoms to joining attack sometimes not overloading like his days in Argentina(which limits a bit in his contributions overall game).
Ex. look at City's highline, Dias and Larpotte for me aren't speedy defenders but they've dominated the league by communication and organizing. In fact, they are a lot of factors outside that like superior in midfielders, pressing, players technical abilities (if we talk, it's gonna be new topic ).
Tbh, in high line I really rate the importance of communication and positioning more than a pace of defender. Communication and organizing are the keys of high line for me, you should or even must have a vocal defender who can shout or yell at you for organize their defense. Passarella can't act as a libero for sure in this system but he will act cb in left zone or right zone who has some freedoms to joining attack sometimes not overloading like his days in Argentina(which limits a bit in his contributions overall game).
Ex. look at City's highline, Dias and Larpotte for me aren't speedy defenders but they've dominated the league by communication and organizing. In fact, they are a lot of factors outside that like superior in midfielders, pressing, players technical abilities (if we talk, it's gonna be new topic ).
@General_Elegancia Where did you get idea that Passarella is a libero here? He's no different than Van Dijk who often joining attack or contribute to midfield. Do you call van Dijk a libero?
I think you mentioned before in Passarella's thread that he only went up like 5-6 times in a game. So you know his game.
I think you mentioned before in Passarella's thread that he only went up like 5-6 times in a game. So you know his game.
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Yeah and that’s what I’ve said. Passarella will be lcb who join the attack and I’m sure he will do well for sure. I mean his role in this game for your team is a lot similar to Baresi in Sacchi’s team.
No, VVD isn’t libero for sure.
Probably should shut up and leave people to it
I do have a habit of banging on when it comes to Passarella. Probably goes back to the one time I got hold of him as spoils of war. I had all the wrong partners and felt sick to my stomach putting random combos together and not buying any of them.
Just so I'm clear, it looked fantastic as a way to shake up the conventional 4-4-2. There was just an excess of unconventional choices which didn't add up, not to me.
I do have a habit of banging on when it comes to Passarella. Probably goes back to the one time I got hold of him as spoils of war. I had all the wrong partners and felt sick to my stomach putting random combos together and not buying any of them.
Just so I'm clear, it looked fantastic as a way to shake up the conventional 4-4-2. There was just an excess of unconventional choices which didn't add up, not to me.
Well, that explains it.
You gave a very detailed account on how everyone either side and ahead of Passarella was a good foil to give him the freedom to join the attack. It was a great platform for him to play as libero.
But he wasn't playing libero?
Well, that explains it.
You gave a very detailed account on how everyone either side and ahead of Passarella was a good foil to give him the freedom to join the attack. It was a great platform for him to play as libero.
But he wasn't playing libero?
Huh? What kind of freedom do you think he has? Freedom to join attack as he likes, regardless of his team need or situation?
He's one of GOAT CB.Anyway, we have different understanding about how our team works, mate. And it's 100% fine with me. I'm joining the Draft to have fun.
I thought it was a great idea when you suggested it, but he got picked that round and I had Keegan on the brain anyway because I think he's really an amazing player - I should really have highlighted him a bit more in some posts along the way.
I think we had different ideas of what he'd do here. I probably don't know him as well as you do, hence our different ideas.Well, that explains it.
You gave a very detailed account on how everyone either side and ahead of Passarella was a good foil to give him the freedom to join the attack. It was a great platform for him to play as libero.
But he wasn't playing libero?
I had a close look at what he did in that game against Holland in 78 and I thought his vision and creativity from the back had a lot of potential for our team. I expected him to start plays from the back and at times step up into midfield and create from there, but that was about it. I didn't expect a whole lot of difference between what he does and what Upamecano used to do for RBL a few seasons back. We didn't call him a libero in the OP but I guess I understand how that might have been the assumption - I was just too blind to see it when the debate was on.
Should probably go back to that reinforcement system to mix it up.
Indeed.
Its downside was that the scope for improvement had a major luck element.
The upside was that it made the first draft more important and you got less of these perfect tried and tested combos which have been done to death.
To illustrate for others. GSTQ would only be able to reinforce from the beaten side. He would likely be eating his words and laughing all the way to Pavel Nedved.
But then, other than him and Litti (that's probably just me) the rest are sideways picks or strength in depth to afford tactical tweaks.
So sometimes one semifinalist makes a massive improvement while another just picks a squaddie. Style battles are usually a problem as most spoils are misfits. Once it was so bad I actually picked an unused sub from my rival