Skills
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My 'part timer' has a better record than their first choice spinner. Especially in England.
I think Willis on home ground has to be considered around the equal of Tyson. The brevity of Tyson's test career does count against him somewhat. And well, you know I rate the impact of additional options like Cairns.
Don Bradman called him “the fastest bowler I have ever seen” while Tom Graveney recounts how he stood 40 yards back at slip.
Tyson was not a success in the first Test at Brisbane: one wicket for 160. Then Lindwall hit him on the back of the head with a bouncer in the second Test at Sydney. In those helmetless days, fast bowlers did not bowl short at each other. “My God, Lindy, you’ve killed him,” Tyson remembered his partner saying before he was carted to hospital. And there in that hospital a great fast bowler was born, to be christened “Typhoon” Tyson.
After his quick recovery Tyson was so angry with Lindwall that in the last innings of the Test, when Australia needed 223 to go 2-0 up, Tyson let them have the full treatment – downwind, while Brian Statham laboured into it. Tyson took six for 85 as England squeezed home. “The Australian batsmen – Neil Harvey excepted – have become flinching shadows against the fiery, blinding pace of young Tyson,” proclaimed the Daily Mirror
It was much the same in the third Test in Melbourne. Australia were set 240 to win, little more than a formality. But for Tyson it was, as he wrote in his diary, “the luckiest and happiest day of my life”.
The luck came when England’s wicketkeeper, Godfrey Evans, took one of the all-time great catches launching himself to his right to catch the left-handed Harvey down the leg side when he glanced Tyson. The rest of the Australians crumbled as Tyson took seven wickets for 27. “But I could never have done it without Brian [Statham],” Tyson recorded. “What a partner! Wise and reliable – just the man to have alongside you in the trenches.” Hutton meanwhile, England’s first professional captain, was “delirious with happiness” – and for once invited the Australians into the England dressing room for a drink.
Tyson enabled England to win the series 3-1 by taking 28 wickets at 20 runs. He was effective back in England in 1955 but soon burned out: his action was all effort, not rhythm or technique. It was in a vain attempt to recreate the past that he was selected for England’s next tour of Australia in 1958-9.
History is laden with moments like this.Frank Tyson
Ah, a combined line up. Even then, I would keep kanhai at 3 and play the other 4 after that. What a batting line up that would beI meant it as an example i.e if Sachin and Hanif were to play in his team, I would remove Amla, play Walcott at 3 and the rest as I mentioned above.
There is still half an hour to go and the difference is 2 votes only. It is not done yet!Pity we only got 15 votes in this. Had 24 the last game.
Oh well. Good luck for the finals @Skills. Excellent team you have there.
It was 6-9 when I posted. Pity we only got 17 votes when quite a few posters not involved with the draft have voted. You'd expect everyone who has participated to vote atleast.There is still half an hour to go and the difference is 2 votes only. It is not done yet!
Cheers Akshay. It was great fun especially the drafting part which I always enjoy. Didn't intend to participate this much in the match ups which is why I intended to play as an AM only but ended up getting sacked in
Yeah but as long as these 17 have voted after giving good thought, it is better than 25 or so votes where few just voted for the sake of it without thinking through (not blaming them, they might be busy or not know enough of players from gens before to make a decision).It was 6-9 when I posted. Pity we only got 17 votes when quite a few posters not involved with the draft have voted. You'd expect everyone who has participated to vote atleast.
Yeah but as long as these 17 have voted after giving good thought, it is better than 25 or so votes where few just voted for the sake of it without thinking through (not blaming them, they might be busy or not know enough of players from gens before to make a decision).
I think the players from several generations ago were generally underrated unless they were very famous names. It's somewhat to be expected I suppose since people tend to pick the players they know, or at least research them afterwards. Other people's picks may remain a little obscure.I Learnt a lot about Gupte myself, didn't know about him before the draft. Think some legends of ours like kallicharran and especially kanhai got underrated here. Kanhai in particular should have been right up there with any other batsman. Everything you read about the man is incredible. Oh well, happens I suppose.
Weren't you the one who said players from the previous gen were overrated a little? I remember you and Aldo going into a little bit of a discussion on it in The Cricket Sheep Draft thread .I think the players from several generations ago were generally underrated unless they were very famous names. It's somewhat to be expected I suppose since people tend to pick the players they know, or at least research them afterwards. Other people's picks may remain a little obscure.
It was Akash.Weren't you the one who said players from the previous gen were overrated a little? I remember you and Aldo going into a little bit of a discussion on it in The Cricket Sheep Draft thread .
Tough luck @Mani and @Varun. You guys played with your hearts out (Literally you guys had to!). Congrat's @Skills. One more ace bowler and you will be favourite to win the Final as well mate.
Weren't you the one who said players from the previous gen were overrated a little? I remember you and Aldo going into a little bit of a discussion on it in The Cricket Sheep Draft thread .
Tough luck @Mani and @Varun. You guys played with your hearts out (Literally you guys had to!). Congrat's @Skills. One more ace bowler and you will be my favourite to win the Final as well mate.
Yeah, I guess that's true and as you said, quite expected.I think the players from several generations ago were generally underrated unless they were very famous names. It's somewhat to be expected I suppose since people tend to pick the players they know, or at least research them afterwards. Other people's picks may remain a little obscure.
What did they do to me?Weren't you the one who said players from the previous gen were overrated a little? I remember you and Aldo going into a little bit of a discussion on it in The Cricket Sheep Draft thread .
Tough luck @Mani and @Varun. You guys played with your hearts out (Literally you guys had to!). Congrat's @Skills. One more ace bowler and you will be my favourite to win the Final as well mate.
Careful, young man.Me winning the draft will be as great a moment as Leicester winning the premier league. I'll sparkle up my table a bit for the big moment.
Eh? What have you quoted and what have you asked me . But I think I was referring to the time you were talking to Akshay thinking he passed an opinion when it was Akash who did that! I just had a Varun moment now. .Yeah, I guess that's true and as you said, quite expected.
What did they do to me?
Quoted the wrong postEh? What have you quoted and what have you asked me . But I think I was referring to the time you were talking to Akshay thinking he passed an opinion when it was Akash who did that! I just had a Varun moment now. .
I remember prath getting confused a couple times. Maybe Ijazz is confusing you and him as well. Indians, you know, all the bloody same.Quoted the wrong post
I don't remember the akshay/akash moment which is typical of me and my shit memory.
Oh no, the two of you plotted this. It's the first thing you both do after waking up. You play the role of Innocent Bystander, and he is the Mysterious enigma that causes an uproar before disappearing from wherever the hell he came. Admit it, this was all a part of your Grand Scheme! The draft was secondary.I remember prath getting confused a couple times. Maybe Ijazz is confusing you and him as well. Indians, you know, all the bloody same.
Yeah, should be Prath then. I don't remember it.I remember prath getting confused a couple times. Maybe Ijazz is confusing you and him as well. Indians, you know, all the bloody same.
You should see the mayhem caused in the WW games as people get confused like hell. It's the case when they haven't even played a game together I think.Oh no, the two of you plotted this. It's the first thing you both do after waking up. You play the role of Innocent Bystander, and he is the Mysterious enigma that causes an uproar before disappearing from wherever the hell he came. Admit it, this was all a part of your Grand Scheme! The draft was secondary.
We were both in the buffy themed one, Demons of Hellmouth I think. And yes, it did cause a lot of confusion .You should see the mayhem caused in the WW games as people get confused like hell. It's the case when they haven't even played a game together I think.
Ah, I see. I don't remember unfortunately. Not really a surprise eitherWe were both in the buffy themed one, Demons of Hellmouth I think. And yes, it did cause a lot of confusion .
Ouch.I'd have voted for Mani if the poll was still open...