Test Cricket draft: SF : harshad vs Aldo @ Eden Gardens, Kolkata

Who will win test match?


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Welcome to semi-final match up between harshad and Aldo of test cricket sheep draft. Some basic rules to consider while voting:

1) This is test only draft. So, judge players and team on test records only.
2) Match up will be in test format.
3) The ground the match is on is to indicate overall conditions from that country, not JUST the ground. Although, specific ground related records maybe used in discussion.
4) Voting will be available for 24 hours after poll is created.


harshad has won the toss and will be batting first.
 
Harshad's XI: Sehwag, Wilfred Rhodes, Dravid, Graeme Pollock, Denis Compton, Azharuddin, Brendan McCullum, Malcolm Marshall, Wes Hall, Fred Trueman, Hugh Trumble

Aldo's XI: Aldo XI: Sir Jack Hobbs, Herbert Sutcliffe, George Headley, BC Lara, Stan McCabe, Ted Dexter, Shaun Pollock, Don Tallon(WK), Abdul Qadir, Sir Alec Bedser, Sir Andy Roberts
 
harshad's team:

Batting Line up

The Openers

1. Virender Sehwag - Starting his test career in the seaming conditions in South Africa, Virender Sehwag coming in to bat when India were struggling at 68/4, struck a masterful century on debut to help stabilise the Indian Innings. One of the most prolific scorer of runs, Virender Sehwag, has scored 23 100s with 13 of them (including a 300+ score) being scored in India. He also has a century at Eden Gardens against South Africa who had a bowling attack consisting of Steyn & Co. Playing at home and batting first, he will thrive in home conditions and will hope to put on a big score.

2. Wilfred Rhodes - A multi talented cricketer who is one of three players to have batted in all 11 positions. While he started his career primarily as a bowler and came in at no. 11, his batting talent was never in doubt as he showed in his 130 run last wicket stand against the Australians, through the years he was promoted as a batsman and finally cemented his place as an opening batsman. He was one of the earlier opening partner of Jack Hobbs - with whom he shares the distinction of being the first opening pair to put up a partnership of 300 runs - and like with him, his role would be to see off the new ball and provide support to Virender Sehwag.

The Middle Order

3. Rahul Dravid - What can be said about this great man, which has already not been said. A player who has shown time and again that he can bat in any conditions and against any bowling attack since his debut in 1996. With 36 hundreds (including at least one in every test playing country!) he has shown his ability to score runs in different conditions. He has scored 15 100s in India with 4 of them at Eden Gardens.

4. Graeme Pollock - The South African Cricketer of 20th Century. His average of 60.97 is second only to Don Bradman with players having played more than 40 innings. His greatness is espoused by Don Bradman himself when he said Graeme Pollock was one of the best left handed batsman he had ever seen. While its a shame that he never got a chance to fulfill his talent on the international stage, those who saw him were never in doubt of his abilities. He could bat at steady pace and keep the scoreboard ticking.





5. Denis Compton - Denis Compton started his career in 1937 at the age of 19 while still playing football. Having lost 6 years of his career to the second world war, he returned to play for England and carried on performing till he finally retired. By the time he retired, Compton averaged more than 50 and had established himself as one the best batsman of his era. In total he scored 17 100s.

6. Mohd Azharuddin - If batting is to be shown as an art, then one does not have to look further than this stylish Hyderabadi batsman. Azhar exploded on the scene with 3 100s in his first three test matches and was the main stay of the Indian team till the year 2000. His classic wrist play has always been a joy to watch. An aggressive batsman who could up the ante any time and could demolish any bowling attack. He has scored 22 100s with 13 100s in India and 5 100s and 2 50s in 9 innings at Eden Gardens.

Lower Middle Order

7. Brendon McCullum - Our wicketkeeper batsman can stroke the ball and change the innings in a session. His strike rate is over 60 and he averages 38. But that is not to say that he only slogs. Brendon McCullum can build his innings and is particularly good at making partnerships with the lower order batsman. He has 5 100s & 7 50s in 48 innings coming in at No. 7. In India he averages a respectable 50.

8. Malcolm Marshall & 9 Wes Hall - both can bat and stick around with a batsman to build a partnership. Marshall has 10 50s to his name while Hall has scored 2 50s.


10. Hugh Trumble & 11. Fred Trueman - Trumble has scored an international 50 to their name and can hang in there, while whatever runs Trueman scores would be a bonus.


Bowling Line Up

Fast Bowlers


1. Fred Trueman - Arguably the greatest English bowler of all time. Trueman was the first bowler to capture 300 test wickets. He has an average of 21.57 in international cricket. Trueman in particular is known for getting wickets in bunch




2. Malcolm Marshall - Of all the great fast bowlers that West Indies produced during the 70s and 80s, one name stands above the rest in being universally regarded as the best. Malcolm Marshall has bowled on all kinds of surface and delivered on them all. His ability to get the ball to skid, swing, seam at will is what separates him from the rest. Also, England has been the place where his record improves. A career average of 20.94 and an average 19.10 at Eden Gardens.



3. Wes Hall - Before the mercurial rise of the WI fast bowlers in 70s and 80s, there was Wesley Hall who led the West Indian attack for a decade. His rhythmic action coupled with his ability to generate pace and bounce even on dusty pitches found in India and Pakistan helped him take 5+ wickets 9 times in his career. He ended his career with a career average of 26.38. His average in India is 20.94.



Spinners

Hugh Trumble - Trumble is often labelled as the first major off spinner in the game, who was very economical. He bowled his off-spinners at almost medium-pace, making the most of his height. He bowled over after over keeping an impeccable length, using his long fingers to turn the ball sharply. He could also swing the new ball, varied his pace, and had a very well-disguised slower delivery. The assistance to spin bowling in Indian pitches in general would help Trumble make the best of his abilities.

Wilfred Rhodes - The slow left arm orthodox spin of Rhodes, flummoxed many a batsman of his time. A career spanning 31 years he was the first English player to get 100 wickets and score a 1000 runs. That he was called up to play the decider test at Oval against Australia at the age of 49 is a testimony to his ability with the ball. He was a bowler of uncanny accuracy and flight.
 
harshad's team continued:

Tactics

As we are batting first, we intend to see off the initial attack of Roberts and Pollock and then pile on the runs onslaught of intention. Whilst I agree its easier said than done, Rhodes has all the experience in playing against express bowlers like Roberts and Pollock. On the other hand, we will be hoping that Sehwag is in his groove and once he sees off the first half hour he should be in for a big innings. In case of an early wicket, we have Rahul Dravid coming in at no. 3 to steady the innings and around him the innings would be built. With Pollock, Compton, Azhar and McCullum to follow, we will be looking to bat beyond the tea session of day 2 and put on a big score of somewhere between, 500 - 550.

When we are bowling, we will be starting with Trueman and Marshall with Hall as first change. Whilst, the opening pair of Hobbs and Sutcliffe, are among the best opening pair to have played the game, my opening bowlers are also among the best bowlers in the game and we expect to make an early breakthrough and start making inroads in the opposition batting line up with my opening bowlers and Wes Hall coming in as 1st change bowler. As such, I will be able to keep the pressure on the opposition team and not let them settle into the game. Come day 3, I expect the pitch to offer assistance to the spinners and my spin duo of Hugh Trumble and Wilfred Rhodes will be able to keep the opposition run scoring in check and build the pressure on them. Wes Hall is known for bowling long spells and both Malcolm Marshall and Fred Trueman are as dangerous with the old ball as they are with the new ball and I expect the wickets to keep falling at regular intervals. All in all I expect to be in lead by at least 75 - 100 runs.

In the the third innings, which I expect to start sometime early on day 4, and I expect to score 280 - 300 at a brisk pace and set a target of 375-400 to be chased in little over a day. This would be a challenge but with the pitch starting to turn, the opposition would bowl Qadir a lot more than he would have bowled in the 1st innings. My team contains of players who are genuinely good at playing spinners and Qadir bowling on a spinning track should not be that difficult. Not denying that Qadir will not take wickets, but my batting line up is more than capable of thwarting that and he may not be able to apply the breaks on the scoring as one would expect from him. I further expect the pressure of chasing the target against my bowling attack should lead to mistakes by the opposition batsman, which would lead to the opposition losing early wickets in the 4th Innings. This coupled with the fact that it would be late day 4 and day 5 pitch, that I would be finally bowling on, it should massively help my spin duo. Insofar as Messrs. Marshall, Trueman and Hall are concerned, I expect them to bowl at regular intervals and help bowl out the opposition.

Key distinguishing factor:

My team has a better Wicket-keeper batsman, which imo would be a big difference in this game. Also, Eden Gardens is traditionally known for assisting spin bowlers as the game progresses, and I have two quality spinners over his just one spinner. Going into day 5, having 2 spinners would work to my advantage.
 
Aldo's team:

Brief Introduction of the Team
The team is composed of some of the most influential cricketers over the generations who led the way with their class and are immortals in the history of the sport.

Jack Hobbs and Herbert Sutcliffe
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The greatest opening partnership in the history of test cricket - Hobbs and Sutcliffe compliment each other perfectly and dominated bowlers time and again. Sutcliffe scored 4555 runs averaging over 60 and Hobbs, the greatest opener in the history of the game scored over 5000 runs averaging almost 57. Together they scored 3339 runs at an average of 87! Not were they statistically amazing, they did that on difficult to bat on pitches, with Hobbs' mastery of the skill of batting combined with Sutcliffe's impenetrable defence that was the cornerstone of the English team throughout their time. With them in the team you can be guaranteed of not losing early wickets no matter what the surface is. Two absolute legends who brought the best of each other when batting together.
George Headley and Brian Lara
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Two of the greatest names to come from the islands, following the indestructible opening pair is George Headley and Brian Lara, two of the most talented batsmen you can imagine, with again the history of displaying that talent against the toughest of attacks in the toughest of circumstances. Headley - Averaging over 60 and carrying an otherwise below par WI team for years and standing up against the storm time and again, the ultimate fighter, so much so that he even defeated racism. And Lara - n undisputed great of the game, who is suited for all situations and has a history of playing iconic knocks.

With this top order, we are secured against the greatest bowling attacks in whatever the conditions can throw at us. Mentally the four are tough as nails and never back out of a fight, technically the four are flawless and marry flair, style, defensive astuteness, ability to play for hours and play according to the situation.
Stan McCabe and Lord Ted Dexter
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Coming in at number 5 is the man who was always on Bradman's side when Australia dominated one team after another, Stan McCabe, the man renowned for his magnitude of class and style, one who even fascinated Bradman himself. Lastly, 'Lord' Ted Dexter, one of the most powerful and dynamic batsmen of his generation and a cornerstone of the English team during the 60s.

Bowling
The bowling will be opened by Sir Andy Roberts and Shaun Pollock. An absolute fierce character and bowling with ferocious pace and deadly accuracy, Sir Andy was the original leader of the WI pace attack and for years one of the most feared bowlers in the world. Complimenting him perfectly, Pollock will bowl his line and length deliveries tirelessly at a very decent pace. Sir Alec Bedser will come as the first change. Bedser would be bowling long spells tirelessly wearing the opposition down and not giving an inch anywhere. The man who revived leg-spin, Abdul Qadir will bowl spin, being at similar to home conditions he will be one of the key performers in this game.

Why we'll win?
The opposition has decided to bat first on this pitch, which is an obvious call, however, given the style of my bowlers and the fact that they don't depend on bounce or pace, will still be equally effective. Roberts will start steaming in with his typical nasty bouncer and the slower one which will work well here, and Pollock and Bedser will continue the tournament bowling with flawless accuracy and aiming the corridor of uncertainty. Sehwag is a fine batsman and can be dangerous, but he will also be in trouble against bowlers who are perfect with their line and length and don't give any room - Pollock and Bedser. He'll get out in the typical playing it onto his stumps fashion while attempting a square cut and we can get early wickets here. Soon Qadir will take over and continue bowling with the others around him. In Qadir, Pollock and Bedser we have three bowlers who can bowl tirelessly all day with immense stamina - everyone remembers that legendary performance by Pollock in the Adelaide heat.

With the bat, as discussed against the bowling unit of harshad you need a quality top order, and we just have the best ones there. Hobbs and Sutcliffe will more often than not give us a strong opening stand and also see out his new ball bowler - that is a key phase in the game. Playing out his early onslaught and setting a solid foundation while set us on course for the win. Following them the middle order are all again perfectly suited for a flat subcontinent pitch and can make a huge total here. Batting second, realistically we are setup not to lose here, a draw is the worst result we can get and given a few decisions go in our way, we can go for a win.

Qadir in the third innings will be highly influential, and a key prospect in getting us a reasonable target to chase.
This game is setup for a draw, to be honest.​
 
@Rado_N need help with poll:

Title: Who will win test match?

Option 1: harshad
Option 2: Aldo

Similar poll options to the other draft polls.

Thanks in advance.
 
Key distinguishing factor:

My team has a better Wicket-keeper batsman, which imo would be a big difference in this game.
What?

Don Tallon is usually rated as one of the greatest keepers of all time, he was a key part of Bradman's invincibles. Baz is surely a better batsman but no chance the better keeper.
Don Tallon, born February 17, 1916, was considered by Don Bradman to be the greatest wicketkeeper he had ever seen. Arunabha Sengupta looks back at the career of the stumper who kept to the pace of Ray Lindwall and Keith Miller and the spin of Colin McCool and Bill O’Reilly with equal aplomb.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/artic...radman-to-be-the-best-wicketkeeper-ever-23163
 
Sehwag and Rhodes is a soft opening pair and completely pales in comparison to mine. Against Roberts, Pollock and Bedser they will certainly result in early wickets on the first day.

Sehwag's weakness against bowlers who are deadly accurate with their line and length cannot be overstated. Gavaskar once narrated an incident where he asked Sehwag to not leave any gap between bat and body going for an offside shot against McGrath, he will target that gap. Sehwag was out on a duck, the man doesn't learn from his mistakes. Pollock is as close to McGrath as you can get in the modern era, he will constantly look for the slightest gap exposed by Viru and get that wicket.
 
I have two quality spinners over his just one spinner.
Only one of them is playing in similar to home conditions, and that one is my side.

There's no doubt whatsoever that in these conditions Qadir will end up with the better figures. He'll also be bowling at a time when your batsmen will be deciding when to put me into bat if you want to win, and a wicket at the wrong time can completely unsettle that plan. It's a nightmare facing a spinner of that quality while constantly adjusting the tempo of the game and thinking of what target to set. As for me, I can always shut up shop on the last innings and decide for a draw, and you won't get that top order out cheaply on any surface. Not with two english spinners on Kolkata anyway.
 
Unfortunately I think Aldo wins this clearly. Unfortunate because I really like Harshad's team
 
What?

Don Tallon is usually rated as one of the greatest keepers of all time, he was a key part of Bradman's invincibles. Baz is surely a better batsman but no chance the better keeper.


http://www.cricketcountry.com/artic...radman-to-be-the-best-wicketkeeper-ever-23163
TBH I am not making an argument that McCullum is the better keeper than Tallon. I said I have the better 'wicketkeeper - batsman' which coming into the game and batting first would be important in setting a big total.
 
Anywhere outside the subcontinent, I think Aldo wins this. The Sehwag factor comes into play in the subcontinent though. Plenty to think about.
 
Only one of them is playing in similar to home conditions, and that one is my side.

There's no doubt whatsoever that in these conditions Qadir will end up with the better figures. He'll also be bowling at a time when your batsmen will be deciding when to put me into bat if you want to win, and a wicket at the wrong time can completely unsettle that plan.
It's a nightmare facing a spinner of that quality while constantly adjusting the tempo of the game and thinking of what target to set. As for me, I can always shut up shop on the last innings and decide for a draw, and you won't get that top order out cheaply on any surface. Not with two english spinners on Kolkata anyway.
In Sehwag, Dravid and Azhar, I have players who are playing at home and among the best players against spin bowling. The assertion that Qadir will have better figures is just not true.
 
Anywhere outside the subcontinent, I think Aldo wins this. The Sehwag factor comes into play in the subcontinent though. Plenty to think about.
Normally I'd completely agree but Pollock is exactly the kind of against whom Sehwag struggles the most. I can bank on him getting his wicket early on day 1. It's one of the surest things you can predict in this game.
 
Normally I'd completely agree but Pollock is exactly the kind of against whom Sehwag struggles the most. I can bank on him getting his wicket early on day 1. It's one of the surest things you can predict in this game.
Pollock's only taken Sehwag's wicket 3 times in 7 matches. And Sehwag scored an average of 46 in those matches as well, so it wasn't like someone else was getting him out cheaply.
 
Pollock's only taken Sehwag's wicket 3 times in 7 matches. And Sehwag scored an average of 46 in those matches as well, so it wasn't like someone else was getting him out cheaply.
That's good enough. There's no question in the fact that Sehwag has easily struggled more against the type of bowler pollock is. He doesn't have the patience to wait for the bad ball which will never come when Pollock is bowling. It's far too obvious and a quick analysis of his dismissals will prove that.
 
No doubt about that! I like your middle order, but Aldo's first four batsmen are just :drool:. I also quite like Dexter's ability to hit bowlers out of the attack at 6. Feel like he could hurt your spinners. Of course, the same could also be said of Sehwag and Azhar.
I am not sure what you mean by this as Ted Dexter has scored a sum total of 396 runs in 11 innings playing at number 6, including the scores of 141, 136 and 52. This would suggest that more often than not, he would fail playing in at no. 6. Or am I missing something here.
 
I am not sure what you mean by this as Ted Dexter has scored a sum total of 396 runs in 11 innings playing at number 6, including the scores of 141, 136 and 52. This would suggest that more often than not, he would fail playing in at no. 6. Or am I missing something here.
Sure he used to bat ahead in the order for England but tell me one reason he will suddenly bat differently due to coming one position lower?
 
Only one of them is playing in similar to home conditions, and that one is my side.

There's no doubt whatsoever that in these conditions Qadir will end up with the better figures. He'll also be bowling at a time when your batsmen will be deciding when to put me into bat if you want to win, and a wicket at the wrong time can completely unsettle that plan. It's a nightmare facing a spinner of that quality while constantly adjusting the tempo of the game and thinking of what target to set. As for me, I can always shut up shop on the last innings and decide for a draw, and you won't get that top order out cheaply on any surface. Not with two english spinners on Kolkata anyway.

I don't have two English spinners in my side!

Why would it matter though if a spinner is English?
 
I don't have two English spinners in my side!

Why would it matter though if a spinner is English?
My bad.
Given the game is in the subcontinent I'll take the advantage of having someone who has earned his bread and butter here. Just like you are getting for Sehwag.
 
I am not sure what you mean by this as Ted Dexter has scored a sum total of 396 runs in 11 innings playing at number 6, including the scores of 141, 136 and 52. This would suggest that more often than not, he would fail playing in at no. 6. Or am I missing something here.
Well, at 5 or 6, he has a good record as a lower order batsmen imo. Just think he's the right kind of player to push on from a solid platform of Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Headley and Lara.
That's good enough. There's no question in the fact that Sehwag has easily struggled more against the type of bowler pollock is. He doesn't have the patience to wait for the bad ball which will never come when Pollock is bowling. It's far too obvious and a quick analysis of his dismissals will prove that.
Thing about Sehwag is, when he's in the mood, even good balls are liable to get hit. You either give him no space whatsoever outside the off stump but then you're relying on lbw mostly which isn't so easy. Or you take a risk and hope he edges one before he blitzes to a quick fifty.
 
Well, at 5 or 6, he has a good record as a lower order batsmen imo. Just think he's the right kind of player to push on from a solid platform of Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Headley and Lara.

Thing about Sehwag is, when he's in the mood, even good balls are liable to get hit. You either give him no space whatsoever outside the off stump but then you're relying on lbw mostly which isn't so easy. Or you take a risk and hope he edges one before he blitzes to a quick fifty.
No doubt he can be dangerous usually the only reason I'm arguing my case here is that I've seen him far too often playing a ball slightly outside off stump on to his stumps. Pollock will be lacking his lips here.
 
I have Stan and Lara for that job. Two of the absolute greatest when it comes to doing a rescue job.
I don't really rate australians as that good a players against off spin. And in Trumble I have the best Australian off spinner of all time.

And Lara is susceptible to pace early on in his innings. Considering McGrath had the number of Lara, to say Marshall, Hall and Trueman won't be able to get him out is quite a bold statement.
 
I don't really rate australians as that good a players against off spin. And in Trumble I have the best Australian off spinner of all time.

And Lara is susceptible to pace early on in his innings. Considering McGrath had the number of Lara, to say Marshall, Hall and Trueman won't be able to get him out is quite a bold statement.
I've never claimed he'll be invincible here or anything. You have a quality bowling attack and the games will be close but over a series I have enough game changers in the team to constantly get the job done. The class of that batting order is immeasurable. Hobbs is the best batsman of the team and he'll certainly be in command here specially with his partner in crime with him. The pair scored at an average of 87! That's just enormous. That top order is just so complete in every sense. There's no situation you can put them in where they can't get out from. Absolute fighters unlike Sehwag who even in the subcontinent was never half as reliable as my batsmen. And Rhodes is simply overwhelmed by this company. Batting first your openers need to give you a good start while here it's a relative weakness in your team that I'll exploit.
 
I've never claimed he'll be invincible here or anything. You have a quality bowling attack and the games will be close but over a series I have enough game changers in the team to constantly get the job done. The class of that batting order is immeasurable. Hobbs is the best batsman of the team and he'll certainly be in command here specially with his partner in crime with him. The pair scored at an average of 87! That's just enormous. That top order is just so complete in every sense. There's no situation you can put them in where they can't get out from. Absolute fighters unlike Sehwag who even in the subcontinent was never half as reliable as my batsmen. And Rhodes is simply overwhelmed by this company. Batting first your openers need to give you a good start while here it's a relative weakness in your team that I'll exploit.
As good as Jack Hobbs and Sutcliffe were, they never played in the sub continent. While their class would suggest that they should be able to score runs in India also, there is no way to know that they would continue scoring with the same consistency. Sutcliffe's average in SA in 10 innings is 46 almost 20 less than in England and Australia. So it would not be outrageous to suggest that he may not perform in the same manner in India.
 
As good as Jack Hobbs and Sutcliffe were, they never played in the sub continent. While their class would suggest that they should be able to score runs in India also, there is no way to know that they would continue scoring with the same consistency. Sutcliffe's average in SA in 10 innings is 46 almost 20 less than in England and Australia. So it would not be outrageous to suggest that he may not perform in the same manner in India.
They're rather likely to enjoy the flatness of the pitches.
 
And Marshall, Hall, and Trueman won't be able to trouble them one bit?
They'll at least be able to see out the initial onslaught. Tbh you can't say much there you have the greatest opening pair against the greatest test bowler. But given the quality the ones that follow them they're more likely to adapt to the situation quickly and get a control of it at some point. It's what they did throughout their careers against top attacks so it's fair for me to expect them to deliver again.
 
As good as Jack Hobbs and Sutcliffe were, they never played in the sub continent. While their class would suggest that they should be able to score runs in India also, there is no way to know that they would continue scoring with the same consistency. Sutcliffe's average in SA in 10 innings is 46 almost 20 less than in England and Australia. So it would not be outrageous to suggest that he may not perform in the same manner in India.
They've both succeeded on very difficult pitches though. I can't see them struggling to adapt to a day 4-5 spinning pitch, and early on it should be a mostly flat deck anyway.