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I do love the hate Nolan brings out of elitists. It's blockbuster.... they are gonna be a bit wild, unfortunately as they are pretty decent in that genre of general shittyness, it's gonna come with wild overhype and over the top reactions from people who barely delve into film.
But yeah, in general, I don't think he's done all that bad. Nothing is close to being disastrous, and he clearly cares about putting out a decent product. He's not just doing it.... for the sake of it. Like I feel a lot are at the ultra high blockbuster level.
But yeah, in general, I don't think he's done all that bad. Nothing is close to being disastrous, and he clearly cares about putting out a decent product. He's not just doing it.... for the sake of it. Like I feel a lot are at the ultra high blockbuster level.
Went to see it last night, thought it was great. Bit confusing in parts so gotta concentrate but I thought was really clever.
I really needed some subtitles for some parts, the music got a little too loud when they were trying to explain things. I always watch tv with subtitles. I’m lost without them. I definetly understand it a bit more now that I’ve thought it more. Really enjoyed it. Great sequences in it.
Yesss, especially when andrei was speaking towards the end. There were times the music was so loud that it got close to hurting
This movie will divide opinion. I personally enjoyed it a lot and love movies like this
I never get the criticism of
'Trying to be too clever'
I think his movies leave enough for viewers to understand it but form opinions too (but also with the intention of wanting people to watch it more than once)
Nor me, not everything Nolan does works 100% but I love the guys imagination and determination to try and make blockbuster films that try and give you something to think about.
I never have got the hatred of his work.
I don’t hate his work. Memento was one of my favourite ever films. And I thought Dunkirk was great. But I definitely fit in the category of people who think the rest of his blockbuster movies are a bit shit. For me, it’s the way they seem pompous and overblown. They take themselves far too seriously for the genre they belong to and are riddled with plot holes despite being reliant on a supposedly very clever plot as one of their main strengths. They just feel a bit pretentious and silly.
Agreed with that. I'd rather someone try something new/something different, then give us a run-off-the-mill action blockbuster anyway.
That’s just his style though and I don’t see anything wrong with that. I feel that he does that very well and the weight of the visuals attached to his usually pulsing and droning soundtracks usually bring some real emotion to scenes. Just my pro Nolan feeling though, his stuff appeals to me, even the ones where he doesn’t quite hit the mark. I like his niche.
And he is niche, even though he occupies the blockbuster genre, his films are always very recognisable and I love them for that in the same way I love the Coen Brothers or Michael Mann etc. He’s got his thing and I love it. For me, few people are making good ‘big cinema’.
Interstellar especially is arguably my favourite film, even with some of its shonky plot-holery. Incredible.
I haven’t seen tenet yet by the way and from what I’ve read so far I’ll probably be a little disappointed but I’m very glad Nolan is out there doing his thing. Adds his own texture to the industry and the film world would be poorer without it.
Yeah, and dont get me wrong. I love mindless fun action movies where a goodguy just kills badguys for vengeance or some other blockbuster we may have, but I like a change of pace across my movies. I like movies like the Nolans ones where you can get a twist (and not in a M Knight Shamamalamlam The Happening kinda way). Nolan movies on a second viewing can be seen in a different light and I applaud him for trying stuff like this.
As I said before it will divide opinion. But again, what makes the attempt pompous? Unless Nolan is doing interviews saying no other movies are as smart as his or compare and hes the saviour of Hollywood?
How i see it. Id rather this than a Baysplosion extravaganza.
It’s just a personal taste thing. No right or wrong answers. Like I said, I thought Dunkirk and Memento were great so I can get on board with bombastic, noisy action films and tricksy plots when they’re done well (in my opinion). The rest of his stuff just leaves me cold. I will watch Tenet though. Would be mad not to, after thoroughly enjoying his last film.
There’s room for that too, nothing wrong with a bit of Bay from time to time. My film taste, like my music taste covers huge ground and I have space to appreciate all aspects of film.
But yeah, I do agree, his films are very slick and imaginative and I applaud that.
Of course, I wasn’t suggesting you are wrong at all ... although now you come to mention it
2001 A Space Odyssey was my favourite film of all time, fantastical sci fI at its best until Interstellar came out. I just love the visual and audio in that film even with its wobbly bits.
Memento, what a film that was when it came out and it still holds up today.
Dunno dude, just love the imagination that goes into his films so concerning how they make me feel and the enjoyment I get from them then I know I’m right ... for me!
Oh there defo is. But again its down to preferences. For example I enjoyed TMNT (second moreso id say). But I reckon it (and Bayformers) could and should have been so much better.
Agreed with that Sylar, and I know you like your action/fiction/comic stuff as well. I see your comments through all the Flash/Arrow/Agents of shield threads
I know you're easily pleased
as am I!Agreed with that Sylar, and I know you like your action/fiction/comic stuff as well. I see your comments through all the Flash/Arrow/Agents of shield threads
I know you're easily pleased
I used to get annoyed a lot (heck look at the end of GoT and my comments or the Pro Graps thread or my thoughts on the board backing Ole)...
But I also look at entertainment as that... entertainment.
I try to look at positives and what I like. Gives me more job that way to go in with a free mind looking to be entertained and knowing what type of genre it is. I dont go into comic book movies expecting great dialogue, unless its been established that it can be done and then half way through a season or trilogy things change out of the blue (when theres a change).
But yes, easily pleased and ill admit it. I like trash when I know its trash
I like trash when I know its trash
I’m the same, some of my favourite old films are recognisable as trash, who cares though?
I used to get annoyed a lot (heck look at the end of GoT and my comments or the Pro Graps thread or my thoughts on the board backing Ole)...
But I also look at entertainment as that... entertainment.
I try to look at positives and what I like. Gives me more job that way to go in with a free mind looking to be entertained and knowing what type of genre it is. I dont go into comic book movies expecting great dialogue, unless its been established that it can be done and then half way through a season or trilogy things change out of the blue (when theres a change).
But yes, easily pleased and ill admit it. I like trash when I know its trash
*round of applause*Really? Not even Godfather 1+2, Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption etc, but Interstellar?
My favourite film is Groundhog Day. It's not the greatest film of all time - though it's a country mile better than the Green Mile and well yeah, better than Shawshank which is pretty basic - although delivered supremely well.... but it's my list, why is this a problem? -_-
Outside of The Batman films, his obsessive playing with linearity in all of his work has started to grate with me. Yes, his films look great and yes, it's admirable that he always goes big on concept but I'm not sure there's much else going on when you remove the gimmick.
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I’m a big Nolan fan but in some respects I’d agree with some of this. It may do him good just to do a straight up movie and leave threads of time and linearity alone for once.
Interstellar is class and I will fight anyone and everyone to the death over that film. I'll even fight you, because I'm certain I love it more than you do.
The first time I saw the film, (IMAX!, hnnnnng) I knew I liked it, but didn't know whether it was just a good film or more than that. Liked most of it, thought certain scenes stood out, but didn't think much of the ending at the time. But then, it's one of those films that I think gets better on repeated viewings and the more you read about it. I've seen it a dozen times since and, honestly, I think it's a masterpiece. One of my favourite moments of this decade is seeing Hans Zimmer perform live, and some of the tunes from this (No Time For Caution) will stay with me for a long time.
I listen to the Interstellar soundtrack quite often. I have the blu ray of HZ live in Prague and we have tickets to see him at the London O2 next March (hopefully that will still go ahead)
I won’t fight you over it matey, nice to see someone else loves it as much (sorry more) than me.
As a father to a daughter of Murphs age, the Cooper / Murph storyline I actually find very moving and the scene where Cooper is saying goodbye and drives off to Hans Zimmers Stay as Murph comes running out of the house is very powerful to me.
I know it’s a far from perfect film but there’s so much in it I enjoy.
Mate, you are going to love him live. The Inception + Interstellar stuff were the highlights for me, but to be honest there wasn't a single moment that I felt was dull. I think he's an incredible composer and has soundtracked many of my favourite films. Hope it gets to go ahead. (off-topic, but I've bought tickets to see Doves at around that time, so I hope for both of our sakes that concerts are in a better position than they are now)
That scene that you mention is powerful and I'm sure that it must pack more of punch if you've got a daughter that age. I haven't, but it still had me weeping. That scene gets me every single time. There are so many brilliant scenes in that. I feel that Nolan always gets those "key" scenes just right. The "mountains" scene in that film is brilliant, too and is possibly my favourite sequence in that film. I properly shit myself in the cinema when the music kicked in during that bit.
Didn't realise he was playing Dublin too until i read your post. Good man!! I've seen him live twice and it's just an amazing experience.
I've put Interstellar on. That's tonight sorted!
Might do a rewatch of Nolan's films in preparation for Tenet.
Good choice ... enjoy.
I was thinking of doing the same but we’re gripped by The Fall on Netflix at the minute.
I was thinking of doing the same but we’re gripped by The Fall on Netflix at the minute.
I do think Mathew should have won the Oscar for that movie and not Silver dollars buyers club. Leo got robbed the year Mathew won. I do love interstellar. Very tense and interesting concepts of each planet they landed on. How they spent so many years on one place that only seemed like minutes is a scary thought.
If you like inception, you’ll like this. Though I do believe inception was a better. More clear to understand it.I've put Interstellar on. That's tonight sorted!
Might do a rewatch of Nolan's films in preparation for Tenet.
Just got back from watching it and I'm disappointed. I couldn't make out most of the dialog because the music and sound effects were too loud. Wasn't just me either, others were saying the same thing. Some scenes it's literally impossible to make out what they are saying.
I felt like I was watching a series of action sequences. All the characters lacked depth and I didn't feel a connection with any of them.
The plot was terribly confusing. I'm going to try and watch it again at some point but a massive let down unfortunately.
I felt like I was watching a series of action sequences. All the characters lacked depth and I didn't feel a connection with any of them.
The plot was terribly confusing. I'm going to try and watch it again at some point but a massive let down unfortunately.
LOUD! I like Nolan’s films but he needs to sort out his sound mixing.
I saw it today and I felt so dumb . I lost interest in the middle and felt like I just couldn't follow wtf was going on . I was wondering if the sound system in my cinema was bad as I couldn't understand a lot of dialogues but I realised later that a lot of people have similar complaint . Overall very disappointed, I loved inception but this was too much for me ( Maybe I just don't understand physics enough)
Yeah, agree with most of what’s being said in here. His films feel a bit... self-congratulatory, like he wants the world to know how clever he is. Perhaps I’m inventing that. I mostly enjoy his films, and this one is no different, but I got lost in parts and the sound mixing was shite.
I don't really see Inception and Interstellar as 'ultra high blockbuster level'. If you took away the enormous hype Nolan gets, to the extent where people see him as a artsy blockbuster director or something, they're just good-ish films. IMHO anyway. And I'm fine with them being treated as such but can't see them as anything more (Dark Knight aside which was phenomenal).
Yep. I just haven't felt a connect with his films for a long time now. But to each their own I guess. Clearly many love his recent work as well. I haven't.
A very complicated film but a very good film, yet again from Nolan.
He is a victim of his success, with some people making bizzare criticism towards him, but I don't think anyone makes a niche genre quite like he does. The closest film I would guess to be a Nolan film that's actually not a Nolan film would be Blade Runner.
Anyway back to the film, there were a few parts I didn't understand but I think I took away enough to get a good overall grasp. It makes you think, and I will watch again to pick up new things (like with Inception and Interstellar), and il appreciate other aspects of the same. Casting was great, Robert Pattinson and John Washington have brilliant chemistry. Action was enjoyable and the last segments ramped up.
There are a lot of things to really appreciate from this film. I think if it released and Nolans name wasnt on it, then it will get much higher praise. Weirdly. The biggest fall of the film is that its a bit too complicated. But I think a rewatch is worthy and it appeals to a specific audience who wants to think about the film and appreciates an intricate plot.
I felt inception was complicated but narrated and explained very well through conversation. Tenet leaves you guessing before answering the questions later in the film. But that can leave sections more confused than others.
He is a victim of his success, with some people making bizzare criticism towards him, but I don't think anyone makes a niche genre quite like he does. The closest film I would guess to be a Nolan film that's actually not a Nolan film would be Blade Runner.
Anyway back to the film, there were a few parts I didn't understand but I think I took away enough to get a good overall grasp. It makes you think, and I will watch again to pick up new things (like with Inception and Interstellar), and il appreciate other aspects of the same. Casting was great, Robert Pattinson and John Washington have brilliant chemistry. Action was enjoyable and the last segments ramped up.
There are a lot of things to really appreciate from this film. I think if it released and Nolans name wasnt on it, then it will get much higher praise. Weirdly. The biggest fall of the film is that its a bit too complicated. But I think a rewatch is worthy and it appeals to a specific audience who wants to think about the film and appreciates an intricate plot.
I felt inception was complicated but narrated and explained very well through conversation. Tenet leaves you guessing before answering the questions later in the film. But that can leave sections more confused than others.
It's just subjective I guess. For me Inception was a league in its own and better than anything Nolan (or anyone) made. For someone else above its Interstellar. For you TDK is the best he's done.
It sounds like he's not your type to the extent where you would hype him as much, which is fine. But for large sections of the audience he's quite phenomenal.
If this didn't have Nolan's name attached to it the critics would have slaughtered it.
Memento and Following were good films but they relied on a gimmick. Inception was just a dressed up heist film. But heh cerebal and all that.
I disagree massively. Some segments stick their nose up to Nolan.
It's a terrific film, and I'm glad its broadly being received as such.
Thoroughly enjoyed the film. Pure cinema with some outstanding action set pieces, Nolan really has come a long way in that regard since Batman Begins. While certainly a mind-bender, I thought the overall concept was easy enough to follow, and there were some neat ideas and twists along the way. It was perhaps a bit lacking in any type of emotional investment but overall, I think critics have been a bit harsh on it. A very worthy entry to Nolan's portfolio.