Film Tarantino

I used to be a fan of Tarantino films but i've recently re-evaluated them and I don't really feel like they will stand the test of time.

He's played fast and loose with safety (Uma Thurman) sexuality and racial language and all of this has to be taken into the context of being bankrolled by the odious Weinstein.

I think he is a "film school director" - one who's all too eager to show off his film knowledge and influences and resorts to seeking out controversy to enrobe himself in an "auteur" status when he has actually been funded by mainstream Hollywood since the get go.

I can accept Reservoir dogs as a one-off young directors film but there has been little actual progression in his films since. His films have been parodic facsimiles of other genre films with a Hollywood star in place of a Hong Kong Martial artist.

The violence in his films is "stylized" but doesn't ever seem to have any genuine consequences...the blood stays a picturesque vivid red...for cinematic reasons.

What is sad is there is some real writing talent there...I loved the opening scenes of Inglorious Basterds...Christoph Waltz showing us a new view on ruling by oppression and fear...and then reality flies out the window and it's like watching "Where eagles dare" where SOME Jewish people just fight back and exact revenge against the Nazis so that's all good then???

Django Unchained seemed an excuse to use up a lot of race based material and again just had a one dimensional revenge plotline. He's then focused on his 60's and 70's timeline - did we learn anything new about the Manson Family or was it just an excuse for showing women in peril / being slapped around again?

This constant use of revenge as a plot line is tiresome - it's like Michael Winner has b
een reborn with an LA attitude and penchant for footsie.

He's clearly a talented writer but maybe he got too big too soon and no-one has been around him to challenge him and stop him falling back into lazy tropes. He's since adopted the persona of a "cult" director but I think there's a spelling mistake in there somewhere.

I don't think his films are necessarily made to stand the test of time in a Citizen Kane, Casablanca, or Chinatown sense. Still, some of his films will stand the test of time because of how well done they are and their influence on pop culture during the periods they were released.
 
I don't think his films are necessarily made to stand the test of time in a Citizen Kane, Casablanca, or Chinatown sense. Still, some of his films will stand the test of time because of how well done they are and their influence on pop culture during the periods they were released.

I agree.

Tarantino films have a cool look to them as well as a very distinct writing style, but they are ultimately meant to entertain. They're not high art and I don't think that they were ever meant to be. Tarantino may be an opinionated weirdo, but he loves all kinds of films and is definitely no snob or cultural elite.

Much like with Nolan, his films are endlessly hyped up because he hits that nice sweet-spot between high art and summer blockbuster (much closer to the latter).
 
A

Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Inglourious Basterds
Django
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Jackie Brown
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B

Kill Bill 1 & 2
The Hateful Eight
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F

Death Proof
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I'm a simple man with a simple life.
 
A

Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Inglourious Basterds
Django
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Jackie Brown
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B

Kill Bill 1 & 2
The Hateful Eight
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F

Death Proof
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I'm a simple man with a simple life.

I would replace Kill Bills with Once upon A time in Hollywood, because I think it's his weakest movie apart from the Death Proof. Maybe Jackie Brown too, but then Jackie has one of my favourite movie songs in it.

Django would be somewhere in A2.
 
Reservoir Dogs by far his most overrated flick. Hateful 8 most underrated.
 
He’s probably doing a sequel to happy feet instead with uma thurman playing a penguin.
 
Ah shit. Liked the idea of Tarantino going the more chilled + hang out, introspective type way with his last film (similar ilk as JB and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood). Hope he makes it one day, if he's able to get over this 10 film and out quirk.
 
Ah shit. Liked the idea of Tarantino going the more chilled + hang out, introspective type way with his last film (similar ilk as JB and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood). Hope he makes it one day, if he's able to get over this 10 film and out quirk.
He'll do number 11 when someone writes him a massive cheque
 
He’s had a whole bunch of ideas over the years that never get off the ground, ranging from a third Kill Bill to when Elvis Presley stepped into a recording studio for the first time.

I’d be interested to see him doing a Spielberg/Fabelmans meta thing and do something loosely based on himself, how he hanged around with all kinds of people in LA, working in that famous video store to then writing and directing films. It would be fitting as his supposed final movie. You could probably end it with him on the Reservoir Dogs set about to shoot the diner scene and then it loops back around to his first movie.
 
He'll do number 11 when someone writes him a massive cheque
Potentially. At the moment his idiosyncrasies are seemingly much more influential than his desire for more cashola. I'm hoping he'll move to weird pet projects after the 10.
 
He could just claim that Kill Bill is actually 2 movies and call it a day.
 
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He’s had a whole bunch of ideas over the years that never get off the ground, ranging from a third Kill Bill to when Elvis Presley stepped into a recording studio for the first time.

I’d be interested to see him doing a Spielberg/Fabelmans meta thing and do something loosely based on himself, how he hanged around with all kinds of people in LA, working in that famous video store to then writing and directing films. It would be fitting as his supposed final movie. You could probably end it with him on the Reservoir Dogs set about to shoot the diner scene and then it loops back around to his first movie
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That sounds like a terrible Kevin Smith movie.
 
He'll do number 11 when someone writes him a massive cheque
I mean... I'm far from being a fan of the guy, but he's done 9 films in 32 years, which isn't an insane level of output, and while I'm sure he's super well off, I doubt he's particularly motivated by money over his cinematic kinks.

Though I'd pay a lot for him to direct a Marvel film on which he has final cut.
 
I mean... I'm far from being a fan of the guy, but he's done 9 films in 32 years, which isn't an insane level of output, and while I'm sure he's super well off, I doubt he's particularly motivated by money over his cinematic kinks.

Though I'd pay a lot for him to direct a Marvel film on which he has final cut.
Of all the things for Tarantino to do, him doing a Marvel film is top billing? Why? It's pants.
 
Tarantino's movies are very emblematic of the day and age he made them in, and he's gotten away with things that would get him canceled these days. If he were a band, he'd be Guns N Roses, or maybe Bon Jovi, or maybe even Poison. There are people who will swear that Living On A Prayer and Every Rose Has Its Thorns are all-timers, but they are anchored to the vibe of the era of their creation. Pulp Fiction, which is his best film in my view, re-energized a Hollywood that had kind of lost its wild ways, and while some scenes are brilliant, others are pure shit. I think the big thrill was seeing John Travolta's career rescued, and seeing him play off Samuel Jackson was great. It was very loose and energetic, and not everything worked, but he hasn't gotten any better since.

I thought that Hollywood film was a load of old boring shite to be honest
Yes.
 
Tarantino's movies are very emblematic of the day and age he made them in, and he's gotten away with things that would get him canceled these days. If he were a band, he'd be Guns N Roses, or maybe Bon Jovi, or maybe even Poison. There are people who will swear that Living On A Prayer and Every Rose Has Its Thorns are all-timers, but they are anchored to the vibe of the era of their creation. Pulp Fiction, which is his best film in my view, re-energized a Hollywood that had kind of lost its wild ways, and while some scenes are brilliant, others are pure shit. I think the big thrill was seeing John Travolta's career rescued, and seeing him play off Samuel Jackson was great. It was very loose and energetic, and not everything worked, but he hasn't gotten any better since.


Yes.

I watched Pulp Fiction again recently, and although still very good, it just didn't hit like it did back in the day. The only Tarantino film that will probably remain timeless is Inglorious Basterds - both because it was immaculately done, and also because its a period piece not beholden to any recent pop culture.
 
I don't think there's a great deal in any Tarantino that screams he'd get cancelled in today's industry.... I mean, I'm saying this knowing your current Oscar winning director/producer/writer/editor made a film only about 2 years ago about a past it ageing 40+ man chasing a school aged girl to take her into into the porn industry was the story (and it was a great too) - I mean, it did get mild criticism for it obviously, but Baker still went on to dominate awards with his next outing regardless.

But then again, I'm part of the crowd that thinks his only miss is Death Proof.
 
I don't think there's a great deal in any Tarantino that screams he'd get cancelled in today's industry.... I mean, I'm saying this knowing your current Oscar winning director/producer/writer/editor made a film only about 2 years ago about a past it ageing 40+ man chasing a school aged girl to take her into into the porn industry was the story (and it was a great too) - I mean, it did get mild criticism for it obviously, but Baker still went on to dominate awards with his next outing regardless.

But then again, I'm part of the crowd that thinks his only miss is Death Proof.

Yeah, there’s nothing in his work that would be considered as such. His only previous controversy was his beef with Spike Lee in the late 90s when Spike complained about Quentin using the N word in his films, which was reignited 20 years later when Spike complained about the same issue when Django was released.
 
It would have been good to see him do more screenwriting throughout his career as his writing has always been top notch (better imo than his directing).

Fincher is a fantastic director too so this project, in theory, sounds like it plays to both their strengths.

Agreed. True Romance and From Dusk til Dawn were both great.
 
I watched Pulp Fiction again recently, and although still very good, it just didn't hit like it did back in the day. The only Tarantino film that will probably remain timeless is Inglorious Basterds - both because it was immaculately done, and also because its a period piece not beholden to any recent pop culture.
Jackie Brown might also fit, but I didn't like it the first time around. Hateful 8?
 
I don't think there's a great deal in any Tarantino that screams he'd get cancelled in today's industry.... I mean, I'm saying this knowing your current Oscar winning director/producer/writer/editor made a film only about 2 years ago about a past it ageing 40+ man chasing a school aged girl to take her into into the porn industry was the story (and it was a great too) - I mean, it did get mild criticism for it obviously, but Baker still went on to dominate awards with his next outing regardless.

But then again, I'm part of the crowd that thinks his only miss is Death Proof.
I'm not talking about him using the n-word; I'm referring to him almost killing Uma Thurman.
 
Have you rewatched Jackie Brown since? It's a wonderful film, a signal of things to come in Tarantino's later films, and great performances of course. And lovely soundtrack.
I think it’s terribly boring.
 
Im not a huge Tarantino fan but I have Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Reservoir Dogs and Hateful 8 as my favourites from him.
Again, not a huge fan and it's been quite a while since I've seen any of the films above.
 
Im not a huge Tarantino fan but I have Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Reservoir Dogs and Hateful 8 as my favourites from him.
Again, not a huge fan and it's been quite a while since I've seen any of the films above.
Hateful 8 was among the worst movies I’ve ever watched full length in the cinema. Absolutely nothing happens for hours and the big reward for making it through the most stupid dialogues imaginable was a massive letdown.