I think Giggs and the Nevilles will be going, Giggs has lost his touch. And the Nevilles make too many mistakes. I hope Giggs gets back to his best though as he is untouchable when he is on form.
Take 2 - Ferguson talks (without pinky and perky this time please)
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The easiest part of the 'nucleus' to improve would be Gaz, the others would be highly debateable;
Becks, aside from his qualities on the field is one of the biggest commodities in football.
Keano- yes we should be thinking about the gulf that will be left by his retirement in a few seasons as he won't become a squad player, but hes our most consistent and influencial player.
Scholes is our best player this season.
Giggs has not been at his brilliant best but who would do better.
Butt is hard to fault also, to have a player of his quality as a squad player is pretty good going.
Anyway before we talk about rebuilding 'the nucleus', I would assume we would take a hard look at Veron, much though we want him to succeed, he is the biggest canidate for the chop considering his value vs productivity.
Becks, aside from his qualities on the field is one of the biggest commodities in football.
Keano- yes we should be thinking about the gulf that will be left by his retirement in a few seasons as he won't become a squad player, but hes our most consistent and influencial player.
Scholes is our best player this season.
Giggs has not been at his brilliant best but who would do better.
Butt is hard to fault also, to have a player of his quality as a squad player is pretty good going.
Anyway before we talk about rebuilding 'the nucleus', I would assume we would take a hard look at Veron, much though we want him to succeed, he is the biggest canidate for the chop considering his value vs productivity.
I don't see Keane going just yet, i sure hope not.
He has said that he would not be happy sitting on the bench, he doesn't mind being rested but he would not be happy with being a squad player. He would probably then go to Celtic like he has always said he would. I don't see why he can't continue for at least 2 more campaigns at United. Butt is good cover for Keano, but they are different leagues really, Keane is the best player in that position anywhere IMO. As far as looking to an eventual replacement, there are few players with his stature at present.
He has said that he would not be happy sitting on the bench, he doesn't mind being rested but he would not be happy with being a squad player. He would probably then go to Celtic like he has always said he would. I don't see why he can't continue for at least 2 more campaigns at United. Butt is good cover for Keano, but they are different leagues really, Keane is the best player in that position anywhere IMO. As far as looking to an eventual replacement, there are few players with his stature at present.
keane to M.E.N:
"In a funny, crazy kind of way all the injuries I have had have worked out to be a benefit to me. "I always feel I come back fitter, better and stronger. I learn a lot as well when I am out of the team about what I can give to the side. I have learnt a lot in the last three months. I always come back wiser. People might not think it but I do. I have learnt about my body and what I am capable of doing and not capable of. When I get back I need to think about what I should be doing. I run around trying to do too much in matches. In training, too, I try to do too much. In five-a-sides I am desperate to win. I always want to win. But I am 31 now and I need to take a step back and look where I have gone wrong. I think I was going wrong in a lot of places. You say that me charging around is what Roy Keane is about but I think sometimes I charge around and actually get nowhere! I have this thing in my head, for instance, that I need to get forward. But you look at my goal record over the last two or three years and it is abysmal so I don't know why I have got it in my head that I am an attacking midfielder! I will still be a team player don't get me wrong, but I think I take on too many roles and I shouldn't be. My form for a number of months this season and last was poor. I haven't played very well. I know that for a fact. People may say I was playing well but I know I wasn't. It was all down to the hip problem. I had suffered with it for months. I had been nursing it, having days off, working with the physio instead of being out training with the lads. I won't have that when I return so I can concentrate on becoming an even better player."
"In a funny, crazy kind of way all the injuries I have had have worked out to be a benefit to me. "I always feel I come back fitter, better and stronger. I learn a lot as well when I am out of the team about what I can give to the side. I have learnt a lot in the last three months. I always come back wiser. People might not think it but I do. I have learnt about my body and what I am capable of doing and not capable of. When I get back I need to think about what I should be doing. I run around trying to do too much in matches. In training, too, I try to do too much. In five-a-sides I am desperate to win. I always want to win. But I am 31 now and I need to take a step back and look where I have gone wrong. I think I was going wrong in a lot of places. You say that me charging around is what Roy Keane is about but I think sometimes I charge around and actually get nowhere! I have this thing in my head, for instance, that I need to get forward. But you look at my goal record over the last two or three years and it is abysmal so I don't know why I have got it in my head that I am an attacking midfielder! I will still be a team player don't get me wrong, but I think I take on too many roles and I shouldn't be. My form for a number of months this season and last was poor. I haven't played very well. I know that for a fact. People may say I was playing well but I know I wasn't. It was all down to the hip problem. I had suffered with it for months. I had been nursing it, having days off, working with the physio instead of being out training with the lads. I won't have that when I return so I can concentrate on becoming an even better player."
Keano, Keano, Keno, Keano! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
He's a fecking Traveller, but I've never ever seen a player so honest about his and other football ability. He's class, and in pure football terms lots of sense.
He'll end up at CB for us in a couple of years, you wait and see. Good to see a player that assesses himslef so well. It's obvious he couldn't be the box-to-box player for much longer.
Keano, Keano, Keano. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
He's a fecking Traveller, but I've never ever seen a player so honest about his and other football ability. He's class, and in pure football terms lots of sense.
He'll end up at CB for us in a couple of years, you wait and see. Good to see a player that assesses himslef so well. It's obvious he couldn't be the box-to-box player for much longer.
Keano, Keano, Keano. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Originally posted by giggzy:
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depends who he's playing with..IMO
if its with veron, then yes, he'll have to be..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Unless its with Butt basically. I'd have liked Keane and Butt against Arsenal with Scholes in a 4-5-1.
There is an Aussie Rules coach over here called Mick malthouse who went over to OT for a few weeks to have a look at the training techniques. He became very friendly with SAF and still keeps in touch. One of the comments he made about Fergie was that they were similar in that they don't like staleness to get to their teams. They like to change on a regular basis and not rely on the same bunch of players. I believe that SAF is now on the point of changing but I don't think it will be wholesale. I think Giggs may go and I believe it will be beneficial to him if he does. He's in his own comfort zone at the moment and needs to be taken out to get back some of the Ryan we all used to know, though possibly not to the benefit of United.