Super Bowl XLII

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Former Broncos season ticket holder. I now love Al Davis because the Raiders won't win 'till he is gone. They finally got a good young coach and they fire him for no real reason. What a commitment to excellence.


On topic, well done Giants. It means we have to put up with their loud pompus NY attitudes for a year but I guess it's better than putting up with the New England version of it.

:lol: honestly i'm not a hardcore raiders fan or anything. but all the mexican gangsters and gangstachicks wear black raider jackets and have the raider stickers on the back of their trucks here in LA, so i root for them whenever they play just for the sake of having a team to support
 
NFL desperate to promote their game world-wide.

Apparently, they are going to have games in London for several years. I hope it fails big-time.

I get tired of hearing "world champions" uttered by every analyst, commentator, coach, player, media person, etc. They need to realize that it's the only sport of it's kind played at this level world-wide. There is no other competition. Do NASCAR guys call themselves world champs? No. Do indoor lacrosse players label themselves world champs? No. I'm an American and it bothers me when I hear this misnomar (or blind arrogance if you will).
 
I thought "Soccer" wasn't hugely popular in the states because it's too slow...

How does that work when Superbowl lasts about 3 hours, and all they fecking do is stop and start.

Inflated scores for a goal (i.e. 6 points). If soccer was scored that way you'd have 21-14 and 28-7 scorelines. Voila! High-scoring affairs! Vice versa if you give 1 point for a touchdown and eliminate field goals, you'd get routine 4-3 or 3-1 scorelines.

I point this out to my fellow comrades that dislike soccer and they have that deer in the headlights look.
 
i dont like football much either, but how is it a shit sport?

It bores the fecking life out of me for a start, the they actually play for about 2 seconds and stop for 5 minutes, bollocks sport
 
Manning for MVP? or Plexico?

Should have been Justin Tuck but the goldenboy QBs usually get the award when a team wins it late. Brady should never have taken home the award in 2002 (defeating St Louis in a game very similar to last night's). The award should have gone to Ty Law that day but the Tom Brady story was too good for the writers (they cast the votes) to not give it to him despite being outplayed by his opposite (Kurt Warner).
 
I hope you realize that the Cowboys are the best team in the NFL, hehe.

Very entertaining game.
Manning got the MVP, deservedly.

:lol: @ Peyton

Cowboys fan here - NE would have beaten Dallas by at least 7, maybe 10-14. Dallas deploys a 3-4 defensive scheme which uses bigger, stronger lineman and lets the linebackers blitz and play zones (NYG play 4-3). It emphasis the edge rush (outside linebackers) and pluging the middle against the run. Dallas' secondary is vulnerable to the pass because they play zone and guys like Williams, Hamlin, and Reeves are not zone players. Henry and Newman can hold their own outside in any coverage but that lets guys like Welker and Watson find seems against linebackers with less speed or safeties (Hamlin, Williams) that have not closed the gap. The NYG have fast, athletic defensive lineman that pressure the QB from all over and the blitz package can be very effective. Dallas lives and dies by what Ellis and Ware do from the outside. NE would have shredded Dallas with quick 5-10 yard slant passes to Welker, Gaffney, Watson and those little screens/dink-n-dunks to Faulk that would turn into 10-30 yard gains with their speed and Dallas' zone. Dallas can keep up with NE on offense but the defense would have lost the game.
 
Inflated scores for a goal (i.e. 6 points). If soccer was scored that way you'd have 21-14 and 28-7 scorelines. Voila! High-scoring affairs! Vice versa if you give 1 point for a touchdown and eliminate field goals, you'd get routine 4-3 or 3-1 scorelines.

I point this out to my fellow comrades that dislike soccer and they have that deer in the headlights look.

well, i dont think it's so much the numerical score, but rather the number of times a goal/touchdown is scored. there are more touchdown/fieldgoals/baskets/runs on average than goals in a soccer game, correct me if i'm wrong though.
 
It bores the fecking life out of me for a start, the they actually play for about 2 seconds and stop for 5 minutes, bollocks sport

fair enough, it often bores me too especially because of what you just mentioned. at least you're not like these deluded retards who think they're nothing but fat people and pussies because they wear pads/helmet.
 
well, i dont think it's so much the numerical score, but rather the number of times a goal/touchdown is scored. there are more touchdown/fieldgoals/baskets/runs on average than goals in a soccer game, correct me if i'm wrong though.

You are correct. I also then point out to my comrades those sports allow use of hands which far increases scoring chances. Foot control in a sport is the toughest when playing against an opponent trying to stop you.

If gridiron football did not allow for the forward pass it would be quite boring. That was the biggest rule change when we took our version from rugby, and tweeked it over the following years by reducing players, adding downs, etc.
 
You are correct. I also then point out to my comrades those sports allow use of hands which far increases scoring chances. Foot control in a sport is the toughest when playing against an opponent trying to stop you.

If gridiron football did not allow for the forward pass it would be quite boring. That was the biggest rule change when we took our version from rugby, and tweeked it over the following years by reducing players, adding downs, etc.

that and adding unlimited substitutions which allowed special teams, defense and offense to the mix. If Rugby did that it'd be a faster game but heaven forbid they allow TV timeouts, quarters, etc. The ads kill the gridirion game but that's what brings the money too. So it's a Catch 22 scenario in that regard.

There's no way in hell last nights game could be called boring. Sure there were moments, but imo the whole game was worth watching not just the last few minutes. It was a great battle with a fast and furious climax. oooh er! ;)

The thing I like about the NFL is the players lack of complaining when they tackle each other. They just get back up and get ready for the next play. Soccer players that roll around as if stabbed 4 times annoy the hell out of me.
 
that and adding unlimited substitutions which allowed special teams, defense and offense to the mix. If Rugby did that it'd be a faster game but heaven forbid they allow TV timeouts, quarters, etc. The ads kill the gridirion game but that's what brings the money too. So it's a Catch 22 scenario in that regard.

There's no way in hell last nights game could be called boring. Sure there were moments, but imo the whole game was worth watching not just the last few minutes. It was a great battle with a fast and furious climax. oooh er! ;)

The thing I like about the NFL is the players lack of complaining when they tackle each other. They just get back up and get ready for the next play. Soccer players that roll around as if stabbed 4 times annoy the hell out of me.

true that. i love soccer but it has flaws as does every sport.
 
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I have all these meatheads outside my office - some sort of ticker tape parade.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghh
 
The thing I like about the NFL is the players lack of complaining when they tackle each other. They just get back up and get ready for the next play. Soccer players that roll around as if stabbed 4 times annoy the hell out of me.

people who say these kinds of things really don't get it.

football and gridiron are completely different philosophies: the latter's aim is to stop the man, the former, to stop the ball. so contact is only minimal, and players exaggerate it to gain advantage. it's human nature: anything that allows you to gain advantage, if within the rules, will be employed to do so.

similarly, you don't ever see rugby players roll around, do you?
 
of course rugby players don't do it. but I still don't see why soccer players do it. Are you saying that you approve of that kind of behaviour? The Eboue type roll?
It's flat out embarrassing. same thing with Rivaldo (against Turkey?) in the WC a few years back.

Maybe I suffer from the fact that I think the game should be played fairly. :mad:
 
I love both gridiron and the world version of football. Gridiron players cheat to gain advantages too. Whining they caught the ball when replay clearly shows the ball touched to ground before hand, trying to whine about a spot of the ball after being downed/tackled, holding, illegal blocking, etc. Not much different than world football players do to gain an advantage. Gridiron players used to fake injuries with under two minutes left so his club would not be charged a timeout and can then get players on field or get a quick rest or draw up a quick play, etc. NFL changed the rule years ago and now a club is charged a timeout for injury stoppages when the clock is under two minutes. So you see players get to sideline when injured unless physically unable.
 
of course rugby players don't do it. but I still don't see why soccer players do it. Are you saying that you approve of that kind of behaviour? The Eboue type roll?
It's flat out embarrassing. same thing with Rivaldo (against Turkey?) in the WC a few years back.

Maybe I suffer from the fact that I think the game should be played fairly. :mad:


your a bit myopic if you think that flopping dosent happen in the NFL. Wide receivers do it all the time to initiate contact with the defender then exagerate the contact to get a pass interference or holding call against the defender. As the chap said the players will use any advantage they can get NFLers or no different,
 
You last won the Super Bowl in 1990, 18 years ago.

You sure you're a Giants fan?

Being a Giants fan is much like being a Leeds fan, I'm sure. There are lots of years I don't watch a single game, can't bare to see them get thrashed so badly.

You'd think I'd love to see Simms on tv as an announcer, but I see him and it infuriates be because of the millions of horribly incompleted passes.
 
Being a Giants fan is much like being a Leeds fan, I'm sure. There are lots of years I don't watch a single game, can't bare to see them get thrashed so badly.

You'd think I'd love to see Simms on tv as an announcer, but I see him and it infuriates be because of the millions of horribly incompleted passes.

That's for sure.

I do miss the days of Simms as a QB. He took shit from no one, something lacking in most QB's these days. Of course the incomplete passes didn't help, but nevertheless.