Just started this. Thought from the first moment I heard the goalkeeper speak he was going to be a wolly - then he concedes 5. 
Sunderland ‘Til I Die | Season 3 on Netflix on 13th February
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Was interesting to see the relationship between the chief exec and scouting team. Basically looked like they had no idea what they could afford financially. That comment about Zlatan too
Also the greedy side like Rodwell, sitting on his arse on 70k a week. Felt for those lower level staff relegation and a lot of them would lose their jobs, Rodwell didn't seem to care at all
Best one they ever had was Jim Montgomery. Played like superman sometimes.
Got to Ep5 now. Thon CEO fella is a Brent wannabe.
Grabban came across a total prick. Sulking because he got subbed after 65 minutes. Play fecking better then you cnut 
Loved every second of this. Karma’s a bitch!!!!
In fairness to Rodwell, most people would sit on their backside for 70k a week. I know that I would!
Why would rodwell terminate his contract that the club offered him? He was training and fit but wasn't being picked, he shouldn't be expected to lose out on millions because the club is poorly run.
Sunderland getting relegated is costing people jobs. He has been getting paid a lot for a while, he should have pissed off. He still could have got a decent deal elsewhere. Lets not forget that he sat injured at City doing feck all as well. He has enough money.
That isn't his problem, the club offered him a contract, and he didn't breach it, he can't perform if he isn't picked.
The bloke who owned Sunderland at the time (Ellis Short) is/was a billionaire. Rodwell's salary had nothing to do with them being able to afford to pay the tea ladies.
Rodwell was aware that there was no more money being pumped into the club.
And the owner had a billion pounds when he decided to lay people off because they could not earn him even more money.
If Rodwell had agreed to end his contract, Ellis Short would have slightly more money than he already does, that's all.
I can't see how you can possibly think Rodwell is the bad guy here.
Even if Short is a bad guy here, that doesn’t mean Rodwell isn’t one aswell. At the very least, Short had pumped money in and given to the club in the past. Rodwell has done nothing but be selfish. Deflecting to Short doesn’t make Rodwell a better person.
Rodwell turned up to work everyday and fulfilled his contract.
That doesn't make him a bad person, he was literally just doing his job.
Agreeing to let a company owned by a billionaire off of a 70K contract would be moronic.
There's a blast from the past - Jack Rodwell. There was a lot of speculation at one time that he was United-bound.
Sitting there while people are being made redundant still makes you a cnut regardless of what the owner is doing.
He was not "sitting there", he was doing his job. The job Sunderland had given him.
Do you think him agreeing to leave on a free would have done anything other than make the owner a little richer? Of course not. Nobody lost their job because of Jack Rodwell.
Rodwell could have helped the situation. Just because the owner is not doing the right thing does not give everyone else a pass to be a cnut. I am aware that he was given that contract but he sees what is happening and is also aware that people have already lost their jobs when they got relegated the first time.
They were in a bad situation during christmas with relegation being possible and yet he still stays on. He is a multi millionaire, not someone who is dependent on this contract.
I can't believe people are arguing against Rodwell being a wrong'un.
It was clearly made obvious to him that the club couldn't afford his contract anymore, that other players or staff were going to need to go if he wouldn't leave the club. Almost a hundred staff lost their jobs when Sunderland got relegated to the Championship, likely just as many when they went down to League One. If he agreed to move on, either more players would have been able to come in and potentially help Sunderland stay up, or fewer staff would have had to be sacked.
Also - Jonny Williams. What a wonderful, lovely bloke. Hope he manages to stay fit and gets a run of games somewhere.
It was clearly made obvious to him that the club couldn't afford his contract anymore, that other players or staff were going to need to go if he wouldn't leave the club. Almost a hundred staff lost their jobs when Sunderland got relegated to the Championship, likely just as many when they went down to League One. If he agreed to move on, either more players would have been able to come in and potentially help Sunderland stay up, or fewer staff would have had to be sacked.
Also - Jonny Williams. What a wonderful, lovely bloke. Hope he manages to stay fit and gets a run of games somewhere.
The club could afford it, the owner was very rich.
Man signs contract, proceeds to turn up to work and do his job.
Evil.
Man signs contract, proceeds to turn up to work and do his job.
Evil.
Multi Millionaire lives and works in a community which helps him day in day out. See’s 100s of them being made redundant. Does nothing. In fact, makes things worse. Great guy, top fella.
100's of workers didn't get made redundant, and even if they did it isn't his fault.
I'd love to know how he made it worse.
He signed a contract, turned up and caused no trouble, he was training and available to play matches.
You're puddled if you think him voluntarily leaving his contract, meaning Sunderland could loan maybe one more player, would have made them stay up.
He didn't make anything worse, he honoured his contract, whilst players like Gibson were endangering people's lives.
You don't think the billionaire owner could've easily decided not to sack those people, with or without Rodwell's 70k?
The thing that made it clear he was a dick (at least to me) was that he gave interviews to the press saying that all he wanted to do was play football. He knew that wasn't going to happen there, all he was going to do there was take his money( which meant that the club couldn't get other players in who could have potentially helped keep them up) and sit around doing nothing. He earned millions there and he was always going to find another club in the Championship so he could have easily walked away and at the very least if he wasn't going to do that he could at least stop being so disingenuous about just wanting to play.
Rodwell should give up his wage to pay other people's salaries for no reason. Jesus fecking Christ.
Jesus fecking Christ.Gibson is also a cnut in his own way. What’s your point? They could have loaned in more than 1 player with the wages Rodwell was on. Im done with this discussion. He could have helped the situation and he didn’t. He’s a cnut.
Just because the owner is wrong doesn’t mean Rodwell cannot do right
.Anyone want to do a Sunderland Football Manager save after watching this?
Really enjoyed this one. Great documentary that shows the realities of lower league football/struggling giants.
Really enjoyed this one. Great documentary that shows the realities of lower league football/struggling giants.
Unfortunately Rodwell stole all his money, pantomime villain style.
The documentary told you to not like him, don't question it.
Any time someone is going to be made redundant at work do you pitch in a part of your salary to cover theirs so they don't lose their job?Gibson is also a cnut in his own way. What’s your point? They could have loaned in more than 1 player with the wages Rodwell was on. Im done with this discussion. He could have helped the situation and he didn’t. He’s a cnut.
Just because the owner is wrong doesn’t mean Rodwell cannot do right
Just because the owner is wrong doesn’t mean Rodwell cannot do right
If I sign a contract with a billionaire and that billionaire decided he no longer wants to play at being a football club owner then he can go feck himself. No tea ladies, cleaners or anyone else would've benefited if Roswell had agreed to waive his wages.
Most of us don't have millions of pounds or the knowledge that we will easily find another job, it's not exactly a fair comparison. Rodwell isn't the biggest arsehole by any means, that's clearly the owner, but he knew by him staying that it meant that the club wasn't going to get other people in who might have given them a chance of staying up and he knew full well he wasn't going to play (Coleman was saying by the end of the season that he didn't even know where he was) yet he was still claiming in interviews that all he wanted to do was play football.
Of course. But it was made clear throughout the documentary that that wasn't going to be the case. Everyone there, from the CEO to Rodwell to the cafeteria lady knew that, and knew that Rodwell's pay-packet (in full context, £3.6m a year) was hurting everyone else at the club, working off a clearly fixed budget.
Yes because I am a multi millionaire professional footballer.
Do you give anything at all, even to charity? You don't have to be a multi millionaire to help people.
If you can't afford a players contract then don't offer the contract. Ellis Short could easily pay 100 Jack Rodwells but he decided he didn't want to anymore. This is not some poor, community run club being held at gunpoint by players, it's a billionaire moving the goalposts because he got bored with the game, fecking over the club and a PR team shoving the blame on a player
No, apparently you're just a man who stands and watches his colleagues be made redundant. Or in your words, a cnut.
Yes, I donate to save the children every month. Still has nothing to do with what Rodwell did.