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Who would people prefer, Halland or Mbappe?
Not much in it but it swings to Mbappe for me because of the agent.
Who would people prefer, Halland or Mbappe?
With Pogba his price would be more affordable (say around 50-60m), as he is entering last year of his contract too. While Haaland has a buy out clause of around 80m? Still quite large amount of money, but still easily affordable to some top teams (including us, City, PSG etc). But with Mbappe, bear in mind last time he went to PSG for around 180m, and he is still very young, I am not sure they would even entertain to let him for any much less, amid COVID market.A bit like pogbas situation unless Juve or PSG step up. I would take Haaland over Mbappe. We are pretty stacked on the wings and I think Haaland is something we don’t have. Mbappe is far better than anyone we have on the wings.... . I’d love both but I think we will probably get neither.
Mbappe. He is clearly more talented and scored similar amount of goals (+assists), and he doesn't have a Raiola.Who would people prefer, Halland or Mbappe?
If we have Mbappe I'd definitely play him on the right, he is equally as effective there as in middle..Mbappe as he suits the pacey, counter attacking style that Ole wants to play but with Martial being so horribly out of form it’s not working as it should.
A front three of Greenwood on the right, Mbappe through the middle and Rashford from the left with Fernandes and Pogba behind is most likely the best attacking force in world football although it’d mean signing a pure out and out defensive midfielder too.
It's City. They can even blatantly get away with breaking FFP rules by overturning the biggest European governing body football organization's ban and play in their competition. Money talks. Whatever shady stuff they do behind the scene doesn't take away the fact they are a well run club from top to bottom with their footballing infrastructure and a competent board who has planned their club way before Pep's arrival.Yeah, they only had to break the record for biggest financial losses in world football (a record they still own) as well as double-salary their players (above and below board) and a host of other extremely shady illegal accounting to get the title of "well-run club".
Covid has helped them as the empty seats are like home fans.
It's City. They can even blatantly get away with breaking FFP rules by overturning the biggest European governing body football organization's ban and play in their competition. Money talks. Whatever shady stuff they do behind the scene doesn't take away the fact they are a well run club from top to bottom with their footballing infrastructure and a competent board who has planned their club way before Pep's arrival.
They structured pretty much their entire back room staff and had them working there before he arrived didn’t they?How many times this myth needs to be busted, they planned jack shit before for Pep's arrival otherwise they won't have to overhaul their complete squad just to make it work.
And still ended up requiring to overhaul the complete playing personnel to make it work for Pep which I suppose was the most critical part of being prepared for Pep's arrival give him the best environment for succeeding at City which they failed to honest.They structured pretty much their entire back room staff and had them working there before he arrived didn’t they?
Neymar?? Even in this hypothetical fantasy, please noBoth him and Neymar contracts up in 2022. That could fk them up. If they ever want to leave then the only way out of there is to run down their contracts cos I dont think anyone can stump up 200 mill these days. Maybe City. We should have a word with their agents. Get them both on a free next year and Haaland for 80. Sorted
Neymar---Haaland-----Mbappe. I think it could work.
If we have Mbappe I'd definitely play him on the right, he is equally as effective there as in middle..
But Mbappe has been getting slightly worse every season. I was having a discussion elsewhere with PSG fans and they were sayibg he eas getting criticised for having his head elsewhere and has developed a bad habit of not making runs without the ball.I would love that we at least try to sign him. Unlike Haaland, Mbappe is type of player who can win you games on his own.
Having said that, no chance that we even will try. And i doubt that any club will. He is just too expensive for any club.
He just needs a new challenge i think.But Mbappe has been getting slightly worse every season. I was having a discussion elsewhere with PSG fans and they were sayibg he eas getting criticised for having his head elsewhere and has developed a bad habit of not making runs without the ball.
I think this oh my God its Mbappe line of thinking is 18 months out of date
Its a huge risk imo. I just dont think you need to spend the amount to get him to get a player that ends up just as good.He just needs a new challenge i think.
But Mbappe has been getting slightly worse every season. I was having a discussion elsewhere with PSG fans and they were sayibg he eas getting criticised for having his head elsewhere and has developed a bad habit of not making runs without the ball.
I think this oh my God its Mbappe line of thinking is 18 months out of date
Both him and Neymar contracts up in 2022. That could fk them up. If they ever want to leave then the only way out of there is to run down their contracts cos I dont think anyone can stump up 200 mill these days. Maybe City. We should have a word with their agents. Get them both on a free next year and Haaland for 80. Sorted
Neymar---Haaland-----Mbappe. I think it could work.
With Barca's problems I reckon Neymar is going to stay at PSG. One more contract there, then he might finish his career there or go back to Brazil for a year or two.
Even Mbappe is no longer a certainty to leave like he was 12 months ago. I think it's pretty much even chances of his next contract being at PSG or Real, with a slight chance of City.
Could be three in three.can't believe he is only 21. already won titles at 2 different clubs.
Håland and it's not even close.Who would people prefer, Halland or Mbappe?
Expect us to offer Vinicius+€70/80M if it can be doneI don't think he will challenge PSG reaching the last year of his contract. Nor do I think that any club will challenge PSG by putting them in that situation, so he either renew or leave this summer.
I also thought that he would renew with some kind of commitment to let him leave in the future, but if he wants to go he has to do it now.
From what I have read the starting price is 150 million. I imagine that Madrid's offer will consist of money, not wanted players and perhaps some sacrifice.
Expect us to offer Vinicius+€70/80M if it can be done
I would give Vini one more year. I am too fond of him. I shouldn't but he has tried hard and I need to see him with another coach to finish convincing me,Expect us to offer Vinicius+€70/80M if it can be done
Who would people prefer, Halland or Mbappe?
Leonardo is their director and he's a huuuuge fan of Vini. Thinks he's the next neymar. With anyone else yeah, no way they'd value him that muchWhat on earth are you valuing Vinicius at???
That suggestion would be mocked in a way only the French can mock
Leonardo really wants him yeah. And sorry but if he's the way we get Mbappé, he has to go.I would give Vini one more year. I am too fond of him. I shouldn't but he has tried hard and I need to see him with another coach to finish convincing me,
although as you say it has been rumored that they wanted Vini, but do they really want him? And Casemiro or Varane?
Of course it will have to be in that way, although I feel sorry for him.Leonardo really wants him yeah. And sorry but if he's the way we get Mbappé, he has to go.
Casemiro+Vini might do it but i don't we can afford that. They don't need Varane. Though they might want him anyways
I have no idea, but they're both Brazilians and Leonardo knows more about him than we doOf course it will have to be in that way, although I feel sorry for him.
But ... why is he such a fan?.
The new Neymar seems excessive.
Does he see something that we do not see? It all seems too easy.
A lot of PSG fans are kinda ridiculous regarding Mbappé. Primarily because he's not a very likeable player, and also because he failed to deliver in a couple of CL games. Mbappé isn't getting worse, he's just at a point in his career when he needs to figure out what his real role on a pitch is. He'd like to be a complete player like Neymar but just doesn't have the abililty. Give him a coach that will tell him that he needs to be like a super Son (let hope Pochettino can), or play more like Henry and he'll be back to insane displays of talent.
Leonardo is their director and he's a huuuuge fan of Vini. Thinks he's the next neymar. With anyone else yeah, no way they'd value him that much
Isnt Vinicius a bit shite? I dunno never saw the hype with him to be honest.Sorry mate.
I don’t care how big a fan Leonardo is. There is no way on this earth they are accepting £70-80m plus Vinicius for Mbappe.
Mbappe will be valued at close to what PSG paid for Neymar, which means Vinicius being valued at about £120m, which quite frankly is rubbish.
Isnt Vinicius a bit shite? I dunno never saw the hype with him to be honest.
Still young obviously.
Yeah I was a tad harsh there. I just remember there being a lot of hype around him as the next big thing from Brazil and from the outside looking in he looks barely Martial level? And I'm not even a massive Martial fan.Well, he’s hardly set the world alight.
shite might be a bit harsh but he’s not fulfilling what most people seemed to think he would and to believe that PSG would sell Mbappe in a swap for him plus £70m is laughable.
He's 20 though. Playing like Martial at 20 is reasonably promising. As it was when Martial was doing it. Playing like it at 25 is less so and why not many people rate Martial that highly.Yeah I was a tad harsh there. I just remember there being a lot of hype around him as the next big thing from Brazil and from the outside looking in he looks barely Martial level? And I'm not even a massive Martial fan.
The question is, who do we have the best chance of signing?Who would people prefer, Halland or Mbappe?