My thoughts exactly although I wouldn’t even go to £50m.(which I guess rules him out?)
Summer Signings 2024
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Not sure if you're serious or not, but if you are that statement is borderline crazy
Mount was in the final year of his contract, and we set the standard that this player was worth 60 million. What do you think Bayern will demand for a player who is twice the player that Mount is?
Mount is 25 where as Kimmich is 29....i would bet it would take 50 million for munich to allow him to leave but it would take Kimmich to push for a move
Why though? Most clubs should by now have a pretty good idea of who's leaving and who's likely to join.
Hopefully we finally focus on sorting the midfield out once and for all.
that and a top defender or 2 or 3.
that and a top defender or 2 or 3.
We still need a RW imo, that should be a priority too if we're not bringing Greenwood back. Diallo and Antony are not at the level of the players all the other top clubs have on the RW, we need better attacking options because Garna, Hojlund and Rashford don't have enough between them.
My spend would be:
- £50m RW
- £70m two CMs or £50m on a great one
- £20m lb or CB
Above all I really don't want us to spend £60m on PL players like Mount or £70m on a CB or ageing players like Casemiro. Scout properly for once and sign some younger talents that can grow into the team. Most of the core of our team is young, build for the next 2-3 years
My spend would be:
- £50m RW
- £70m two CMs or £50m on a great one
- £20m lb or CB
Above all I really don't want us to spend £60m on PL players like Mount or £70m on a CB or ageing players like Casemiro. Scout properly for once and sign some younger talents that can grow into the team. Most of the core of our team is young, build for the next 2-3 years
Defence has been our biggest problem this year. We'll need to sell high and buy well.
If we get the defence right, everything else will be easier to sort out.
We'll be working from a solid base.
If we get the defence right, everything else will be easier to sort out.
We'll be working from a solid base.
Agree, also if any of our targets has a great tournment the prices will soar
Agreed. Need a solid defence and a solid DM. That should hopefully help us to stop conceding lots of goals and chances. We also need to improve the attack. We’ve got young players who are going to be inconsistent. We need goals from our wingers so another wide player is essential.
We're 11th in xG also.
We were dreadful in defence, midfield and attack unfortunately.
I wouldn't be disappointed to see any of the below players leave.
AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, Evans
Eriksen, Casemiro, Amrabat, VDB, Mctominay
Sancho, Martial, Greenwood, Rashford, Antony
I think RW could be sorted if we have Garnacho playing there full time. There are many more LWs on the market than RWs, so it would be in our interest to do that. It also helps that Garnacho has actually performed best on the right. Nico Williams for the left wing, and our attack is suddenly much more exciting.
Alan Varela (CDM) from Porto and Éderson (CM) from Atalanta will offer physicality and fight that we don't have in midfield. These two plus Mainoo and Bruno, and we're looking much better in midfield.
Olise is far and away our most consistently and strongest linked player, I think that gets done.
At CB we’ve seen Todibo linked even before the INEOS take over, Bremer from Juventus has come up a few times as available names. If not one of those two I think it’s guarantees we sign a RCB with some experience that is either entering or in their prime to start and partner Martinez. Bring in the Tosin lad from Fulham as a 3rd/4th option.
Left back we clearly should be looking at bringing in a starter, Shaw’s avsilability is clearly unreliable, and bringing in a LB allows us to comfortably use Shaw as LCB cover for Martinez. The guy from Wolves was linked, I personally quite like the Bournemouth LB myself. Gutierrez from Girona was linked previously and I liked what little I saw of him.
Midfield is what scares me, we need two incoming at a minimum, three more accurately what’s needed. Kone and Thuram are a couple of guys I personally like, don’t really have much insight into who we would target. At the moment we’re missing a lot of key dynamics in the middle of the park so getting a couple of different signings matching different profiles would be helpful.
Striker, I think someone who could come in and be completion/rotation for Hojlund is definitely best option given lack of available top class strikers and how the lack of big budget for any one singular signing. Someone like a Guirassy fits the bill here.
Much less likely but if we could find a way to move on from Onana and bring in a Costa from Porto or a similar quality keeper i’d be over the moon.
All in all I think LB, 2 CB, CDM, CM, ST, RW are a necessity. Preferably I would have Eriksen, Casemiro, and McTominay all out of here and sign three midfielders to compliment Bruno, Mount, Mainoo.
At CB we’ve seen Todibo linked even before the INEOS take over, Bremer from Juventus has come up a few times as available names. If not one of those two I think it’s guarantees we sign a RCB with some experience that is either entering or in their prime to start and partner Martinez. Bring in the Tosin lad from Fulham as a 3rd/4th option.
Left back we clearly should be looking at bringing in a starter, Shaw’s avsilability is clearly unreliable, and bringing in a LB allows us to comfortably use Shaw as LCB cover for Martinez. The guy from Wolves was linked, I personally quite like the Bournemouth LB myself. Gutierrez from Girona was linked previously and I liked what little I saw of him.
Midfield is what scares me, we need two incoming at a minimum, three more accurately what’s needed. Kone and Thuram are a couple of guys I personally like, don’t really have much insight into who we would target. At the moment we’re missing a lot of key dynamics in the middle of the park so getting a couple of different signings matching different profiles would be helpful.
Striker, I think someone who could come in and be completion/rotation for Hojlund is definitely best option given lack of available top class strikers and how the lack of big budget for any one singular signing. Someone like a Guirassy fits the bill here.
Much less likely but if we could find a way to move on from Onana and bring in a Costa from Porto or a similar quality keeper i’d be over the moon.
All in all I think LB, 2 CB, CDM, CM, ST, RW are a necessity. Preferably I would have Eriksen, Casemiro, and McTominay all out of here and sign three midfielders to compliment Bruno, Mount, Mainoo.
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Branthwaite if 60-65, else go for someone else or play Maguire.
Summerville 30?
Joao Pedro - Perfect talent who doesn't necessarily hinder Højlund's development. If not: Toney 50m - feck it, we need some goals and competition
DCM in this order: Kimmich, Douglas Luiz, Palhinha, Gross (Gross and Kimmich can also play RB)
Try and go for Diogo Costa in goal if there's money for that, and sell Onana
Branthwaite if 60-65, else go for someone else or play Maguire.
Summerville 30?
Joao Pedro - Perfect talent who doesn't necessarily hinder Højlund's development. If not: Toney 50m - feck it, we need some goals and competition
DCM in this order: Kimmich, Douglas Luiz, Palhinha, Gross (Gross and Kimmich can also play RB)
Try and go for Diogo Costa in goal if there's money for that, and sell Onana
1. Neves (partners Mainoo)
2. Silva (replaces Varane)
3. Braithwaite (Martinez backup)
4. Archie Gray (Dalot backup)
2. Silva (replaces Varane)
3. Braithwaite (Martinez backup)
4. Archie Gray (Dalot backup)
Who starts beside Martinez next year in your plan?
Varane is going, Lindelof should be going and if Maguire is staying, it would hopefully be as a decent squad option.
We’ll need to spend more than 20m to replace Varane, and if Saturday has shown us anything - it’s how important it is that we fix that centre back situation for next season.
A new third choice goalkeeper. Someone getting on a bit and available on a free….Kaspar Schmeichel?
So that if their players have a good tournament they can inflate the prices for them
We at least need to get one major signing for the CB (due to Varane leaving) and one or two CM ( due to Amrabat and potentially Casemiro leaving),a ST backup( due to Martial leaving). We may need a CB backup ( due to Evans leaving) and a fullback (either RB or LB) due to our emergence this season. After that I will look to add competition on the flanks.
Lets list the priorities in order:
1. Starting CB 50-60m ( Araujo,Antonio Silva, Todibo, Tapsoba)
Has to be physical to compliment Martinez and technical to be able to pass from behind.
2. Backup/First team DM 40-50m (in order of preference A. Onana, Ederson, Haidara)
Has to be physical (aerially dominant) and press resistant.
3. Backup/ First team ST 40-50m (iop Toney, Openda, Jonathan David, Guirassy)
Has to be 'something different' to Hojlund and ready to share the minutes 50/50 with him. Bonus if he can play along the wings also.
4. Backup FB 30-40m ( iop Frimpong, Dumfries, Mittelstaad,Estupinan)
Either RB or LB to compliment Shaw/Dalot/AWB.
5.Backup CB 20-30m (iop Tosin, Braithwaite, Zagadou, Koch)
Has to compliment the squad with physical and technical abililities. Bonus if can play on the left.
After these dependent on the sales we should look for capable replacements i.e. if Casemiro leaves we can look somebody like Neves.
Lets list the priorities in order:
1. Starting CB 50-60m ( Araujo,Antonio Silva, Todibo, Tapsoba)
Has to be physical to compliment Martinez and technical to be able to pass from behind.
2. Backup/First team DM 40-50m (in order of preference A. Onana, Ederson, Haidara)
Has to be physical (aerially dominant) and press resistant.
3. Backup/ First team ST 40-50m (iop Toney, Openda, Jonathan David, Guirassy)
Has to be 'something different' to Hojlund and ready to share the minutes 50/50 with him. Bonus if he can play along the wings also.
4. Backup FB 30-40m ( iop Frimpong, Dumfries, Mittelstaad,Estupinan)
Either RB or LB to compliment Shaw/Dalot/AWB.
5.Backup CB 20-30m (iop Tosin, Braithwaite, Zagadou, Koch)
Has to compliment the squad with physical and technical abililities. Bonus if can play on the left.
After these dependent on the sales we should look for capable replacements i.e. if Casemiro leaves we can look somebody like Neves.
Neves would be a statement signing.
Is there a delete all button on the club excluding Martinez and players under 21 
This bunch had us finishing 8th
I know it's a lot of changing and didn't really work for Chelsea, but honestly, I'd go full Chelsea and do a complete overhaul.
There's value in the market, some players have release clauses etc
This bunch had us finishing 8th
I know it's a lot of changing and didn't really work for Chelsea, but honestly, I'd go full Chelsea and do a complete overhaul.
There's value in the market, some players have release clauses etc
We don't need a keeper ffs.
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We definitely need to be looking players like Olise Prior to picking them up from teams like Palace. I'm hoping that the new structure Ineos seem so keen to implement at least contains an upgrade on the current scouting model and identification of genuine young talent.
Just having a bit of FM fun here tbh.
1. Todibo 40m
2. Hermoso (Free)
3. Tosin (Free)
4. Gutierrez 30m
5. Amrabat 15m
6. Ederson 50m
7. Olise 50m
8. Eze 40m
9. Toney 30m
Total = 255m
Players to leave/sell:
1. Lindelof 20m
2. Evans (leave)
3. Varane (leave)
4. Eriksen (leave)
5. Mctominay 20m
6. Martial (leave)
7. Antony 35m
8. Sancho 30m
9. Greenwood 30m
10. Alvaro 5m
11. Pellistri 10m
12. Williams 10m
13. VDB 10m
Total = 170m
1. Todibo 40m
2. Hermoso (Free)
3. Tosin (Free)
4. Gutierrez 30m
5. Amrabat 15m
6. Ederson 50m
7. Olise 50m
8. Eze 40m
9. Toney 30m
Total = 255m
Players to leave/sell:
1. Lindelof 20m
2. Evans (leave)
3. Varane (leave)
4. Eriksen (leave)
5. Mctominay 20m
6. Martial (leave)
7. Antony 35m
8. Sancho 30m
9. Greenwood 30m
10. Alvaro 5m
11. Pellistri 10m
12. Williams 10m
13. VDB 10m
Total = 170m
At the moment I'm genuinely hoping we make no big long term signings. We currently have no CEO, no DOF and the mangers future is in doubt and has shown to be utterly useless at identifying targets.
So who on earth has been doing the prep the scouting, the assessments of the squad? Who will be making the decisions?
I would much rather us make a few loan signings maybe some 1 year contracts basically concentrate on getting the structure right. Rather then do what we have done for the last decade and spunk 100's of millions down the toilet making rash/bad/uniformed signings.
So who on earth has been doing the prep the scouting, the assessments of the squad? Who will be making the decisions?
I would much rather us make a few loan signings maybe some 1 year contracts basically concentrate on getting the structure right. Rather then do what we have done for the last decade and spunk 100's of millions down the toilet making rash/bad/uniformed signings.
Focus HAS to be the spine
I don’t have too much issue if Dalot and AWB remain competing for rb and used in varying circumstances.
right wing could be improved but with Amad, Antony and Garna we could manage the season.
we desperately need a couple of midfielders, a striker and a couple of centre backs. Potentially a lb dependent on injuries/fitness concerns.
Thats 6 signings and I can’t see even that if I’m honest with myself.
I don’t have too much issue if Dalot and AWB remain competing for rb and used in varying circumstances.
right wing could be improved but with Amad, Antony and Garna we could manage the season.
we desperately need a couple of midfielders, a striker and a couple of centre backs. Potentially a lb dependent on injuries/fitness concerns.
Thats 6 signings and I can’t see even that if I’m honest with myself.
Cost us advancement in Champions League - these type of errors he makes is something you can’t just train yourself out of imo.
Had we been our usual nervous against City, it could have gone wrong in the final too. It would be nice to not rely on fine margins/personal errors.
All keepers drop clangers, it just gets magnified when it's Manchester United.
Onana is a decent keeper.
Onana has had around 4-6 clangers this season you think that's normal?
The first priorities have to be:
A first choice centre back to replace Varane
A first choice defensive midfielder to replace Casemiro
Sort those two positions out and we'll immediately look a lot better.
Despite not being amazing this season, I would sign Amrabat permanent to provide cover for the midfield.
Once you've sorted that, try for someone who can provide cover for left back then see how Shaw's injury develops over the season.
Then get a second striker in. Someone that can provide cover/competition for Hojlund whilst also giving us the option to play two strikers.
Any other signings would depend on who leaves. However, if the likes of Maguire, Lindelof and McTominay are happy to be rotation options next season, I'd probably keep them within the squad. If any of those want to leave and play every week, you'd hope money could be spent on bringing in an experienced squad playerbto help us cope with the extra games.
I'd also keep Evans on the proviso that he is going to be 5th choice, potentially with a view to him eventually taking on a Huddleston/Mcshane type role with the under 23s once the first team is more settled.
A first choice centre back to replace Varane
A first choice defensive midfielder to replace Casemiro
Sort those two positions out and we'll immediately look a lot better.
Despite not being amazing this season, I would sign Amrabat permanent to provide cover for the midfield.
Once you've sorted that, try for someone who can provide cover for left back then see how Shaw's injury develops over the season.
Then get a second striker in. Someone that can provide cover/competition for Hojlund whilst also giving us the option to play two strikers.
Any other signings would depend on who leaves. However, if the likes of Maguire, Lindelof and McTominay are happy to be rotation options next season, I'd probably keep them within the squad. If any of those want to leave and play every week, you'd hope money could be spent on bringing in an experienced squad playerbto help us cope with the extra games.
I'd also keep Evans on the proviso that he is going to be 5th choice, potentially with a view to him eventually taking on a Huddleston/Mcshane type role with the under 23s once the first team is more settled.
Give him another year and then reevaluate. If you sort the defence out and he's still making mistakes, make the change next summer.
Don’t know about the others but 7/8/9 are costing more than that.
I don’t think we need that many personally and I doubt we’ll get rid of 13 (think more like up to 10) but the net spend there is doable.
As we did on Saturday (Martinez helping also obviously)? Amazing the difference that a solid CH partnership and a sweeping up/breaking up Def Mid makes (I thought Amrabat was excellent).
I do think with Shaw, Malacia (Mr Glass) and Amass hopefully in 25/26, we’re ok at LB. Dalot covers also. It’s a RB for me.
Need a new left back, defensive midfielder and a center back that are all starting caliber. Then, need another striker to rotate with Hojlund and that’s probably the most business we could afford to do.
I think we also need to avoid signing too many players and in 2/3 years being stuck with a load of players that aren't playing but still taking home 200k a week plus.
If we only sign 4 players this summer and they're all of sufficient quality to be still making a positive impact in 5 years that would represent a much better transfer window than the previous few.
I hope we don't go for flashy signings, instead focus on players that will compliment our existing spine. By "spine" I mean:
Lisandro Martínez, Bruno Fernandes, Rasmus Højlund, Amad Diallo, Alejandro Garnacho, Diogo Dalot, Luke Shaw, Kobbie Mainoo, Willy Kambwala.
Realistically most of our dead wood are not going to fetch anything above 10mln. Can you imagine someone paying to get Malacia, Antony, Mount? I can't. So might as well use them for rotation and spend the money wisely. Ideally we should get rid of the highest earners, even at a lower price, but I doubt we will.
What I would go for if all of those remain:
LB - Young prospect, someone who could easily replace Malacia as 2nd choice and can challenge Shaw.
CB - 1 young prospect and an experienced CB (to replace Martinez, when he's not fit).
MF - We have a young prospect, what we lack is a seasoned player, that can mentor him. Considering the age range here I would add another youngster as well, if we have the money.
LW - We do need someone who's more consistent than Rashford. Preferably young-er.
ST - Definitely a bit more experienced, we need to give Rasmus a brake here and there.
All in all 6 + 1 transfers.
Lisandro Martínez, Bruno Fernandes, Rasmus Højlund, Amad Diallo, Alejandro Garnacho, Diogo Dalot, Luke Shaw, Kobbie Mainoo, Willy Kambwala.
Realistically most of our dead wood are not going to fetch anything above 10mln. Can you imagine someone paying to get Malacia, Antony, Mount? I can't. So might as well use them for rotation and spend the money wisely. Ideally we should get rid of the highest earners, even at a lower price, but I doubt we will.
What I would go for if all of those remain:
LB - Young prospect, someone who could easily replace Malacia as 2nd choice and can challenge Shaw.
CB - 1 young prospect and an experienced CB (to replace Martinez, when he's not fit).
MF - We have a young prospect, what we lack is a seasoned player, that can mentor him. Considering the age range here I would add another youngster as well, if we have the money.
LW - We do need someone who's more consistent than Rashford. Preferably young-er.
ST - Definitely a bit more experienced, we need to give Rasmus a brake here and there.
All in all 6 + 1 transfers.
Buy Kevin Danso before he wins the Euro and a starting left back. We may buy a RB instead if we are able to squeeze some money out of AWB this summer. Dalot would have to play LB most of the time, but he is equally good on both sides. If we have some money left we should buy a back up CB that's more suited to a high line than Maguire or Evans and who is better than Lindelof.
We will need two players capable of playing DM. Amrabat hasn't shown enough to justify his price tag and Casemiro should be going. If we decide to cash in on McTominay, as he will probably never be worth more than now, we'd need another midfielder.
Of course we need a striker. I fear we'd have to put up with the wingers we've got, but there is a lot of potential in our wingers. Rashford proofed that can be a force, Garnacho is only getting better, Amad could develop into a very good player and Antony... well, at least he couldn't get any worse, could he?
So I expect 5 - 6 new players, depending on who leaves. I'd like to see some clever deals, not the most expansive ones. Buy a Danso, a Jonathan David or a Guirassy. And maybe, if we can pulled it off, splash a lot of cash if a special talent becomes available (Joao Neves for example).
We will need two players capable of playing DM. Amrabat hasn't shown enough to justify his price tag and Casemiro should be going. If we decide to cash in on McTominay, as he will probably never be worth more than now, we'd need another midfielder.
Of course we need a striker. I fear we'd have to put up with the wingers we've got, but there is a lot of potential in our wingers. Rashford proofed that can be a force, Garnacho is only getting better, Amad could develop into a very good player and Antony... well, at least he couldn't get any worse, could he?
So I expect 5 - 6 new players, depending on who leaves. I'd like to see some clever deals, not the most expansive ones. Buy a Danso, a Jonathan David or a Guirassy. And maybe, if we can pulled it off, splash a lot of cash if a special talent becomes available (Joao Neves for example).
Yeah.