Storeytime 2013/14

Liam147

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Top 6: United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool
Bottom 6: Sunderland, Palace, Fulham, Hull, Cardiff, Norwich

Win all home games (57)
Lose away against top 6 (0)
Draw away against middle 8 (8)
Win away against bottom 6 (18)

83 points wins it.

With help from Thisistheone.
If we're using that, United's position:
Swansea A (+2)
Chelsea H (-2)
Liverpool A (+0)
Crystal Palace H (+0)
Man City A (+0)
West Brom H (-3)
Sunderland A (+0)
Southampton H (-2)
Stoke H (+0)
Fulham A (+0)
Arsenal H (+0)
We're -5. Doesn't sound great but I think the winners will finish above par. Think of Zach Johnson winning the Masters with one over par. Also worth noting that the rest of the teams will be relatively similar. I'm not sure anyone would be below par at the moment. I'll do the other teams in a bit.

Edited. Above and below par mean the same thing.
 
Good luck with all that.
 
Arsenal:
Villa H (-3)
Fulham A (+0)
Spurs H (+0)
Sunderland A (+0)
Stoke H (+0)
Swansea A (+2)
West Brom A (+0)
Norwich H (+0)
Palace A (+0)
Liverpool H (+0)
United A (+0)

Arsenal are -1. Better than us, but still not overly impressive.
 
Good work mate! Was hoping you'd make a new thread.

So Arsenal are 4 points better off but yet to play City and Chelsea.
 
Ramshock said:
Good luck when reality bites you again...soon
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What are you on about?

I'm not really sure what the post is all about. Just saying I don't think his prediction (if that's what it is) will be right.

Sorry for not sharing the same view as you.

I think I understand it now though so apologies to Paddy as I initially read it as a straight predictions thread.
 
M'n'M said:
What are you on about?

I'm not really sure what the post is all about. Just saying I don't think his prediction (if that's what it is) will be right.

Sorry for not sharing the same view as you.

I think I understand it now though so apologies to Paddy as I initially read it as a straight predictions thread.
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Good luck this season.
 
Thisistheone said:
Good work mate! Was hoping you'd make a new thread.

So Arsenal are 4 points better off but yet to play City and Chelsea.
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Yeah, there's a few ways of looking at it. One is that Arsenal and City haven't played most of the big sides away. Arsenal haven't played City, Chelsea, Spurs or Liverpool away. City haven't played United, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs away.

The real difference is because we've dropped points to mickey mouse sides like West Brom and Southampton. You might find as the season goes on though that these sides start taking more points off the big sides. West Brom nearly beat Chelsea, and Soton's form hasn't relented yet.

City next.

Newcastle H
Cardiff A (-3)
Hull H
Stoke A
United H
Villa A
Everton H
West Ham A (+2)
Chelsea A
Norwich H
Sunderland A (-3)

All in all, fairly standard for City with two big hiccups. They're -4.
 
stoke 0
villa 2
manc 0
swansea 0
soton -3
sunderland 0
palace 0
newcastle 0
wba 0
arsenal 0
fulham 0

LFC on -1 so far, slightly better than our points average per game (which puts us at 79.5 points for 38 games). I'll take it.:drool:
 
M'n'M said:
What are you on about?

I'm not really sure what the post is all about. Just saying I don't think his prediction (if that's what it is) will be right.

Sorry for not sharing the same view as you.

I think I understand it now though so apologies to Paddy as I initially read it as a straight predictions thread.
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You've really never heard of the Peterstorey Table?

It's been interesting the few seasons I've seen it. I'd be interested to see how far off the pace we are so far, if at all.
 
I try to stay in the genny more often than not as you feckers push my buttons in here ;)
 
Pretty sure there was only one button pushed in here so far.

So even on the handicap table we are behind Liverpool and Arsenal. I had hoped we would be closer tbh or even level. The fact Arsenal have yet to play certain teams is irrelevant under these circumstances. That's the very essence of this system.
 
Irwhine said:
Pretty sure there was only one button pushed in here so far.

So even on the handicap table we are behind Liverpool and Arsenal. I had hoped we would be closer tbh or even level. The fact Arsenal have yet to play certain teams is irrelevant under these circumstances. That's the very essence of this system.
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It's not really about that. As I pointed out, we dropped points in two silly games. Hang on to beat Soton and we're -3. We had West Brom as well but beyond that we're fine. City are in a similar boat to us. Well off the pace on the face of it, but it's just two results which have turned it round. Arsenal play Soton after the break. A loss there and a win for us brings us within 1. To be honest, I fancy a draw.

EDIT: What I'm trying to say is that there's only really two games where we've slipped up and we're four points behind. It's closer than it looks.
 
Totally. A few freakish bad results have swung us to -5, but I thought the whole point of a handicap system was to get a feeling for where you are regardless of who has played who.
 
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Apologies to Southampton.
 
Southampton are actually joint top of the storeytable on -1, though their 'par' is 1 less than the top 6's.
 
Irwhine said:
Totally. A few freakish bad results have swung us to -5, but I thought the whole point of a handicap system was to get a feeling for where you are regardless of who has played who.
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Not quite, it is usually more insightfull when everyone is piling up the points and the system helps you qualify/weigh it relative to the importance of the games already played (not those left to be played like some are arguing). Everyone has been dropping points left, right and centre though so it doesn't tell you jack right now, just that Arsenal, Liverpool and Southampton are doing better, much like the table does.

We've dropped 13 points out of 33. The three at Anfield and Etihad are very reasonable. The two against Chelsea just football. It's the five against Soton and WBrom that hurt, and rightly so. Those are the feck ups so far.

Have Arsenal fecked up? Nope, other than Villa. The silver-lining though is any midtable manager watching the game yesterday would fancy themselves to frustrate them.
 
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Apologies to Southampton.
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nice one, scrumps.

I am heartened to see spurs jammy wins reflect here. They are the poorest of the lot this season.

Love how stable our curve is. getting the job done every week.
 
Scrumpet said:
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Apologies to Southampton.
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So, this weekend:
Arsenal +0
United -2
Chelsea +2
Liverpool +0
Spurs +0
City +0

Table:
Chelsea +0
Arsenal -1
Liverpool -1
City -4
Spurs -6
United -7

I've been looking to see where Storeytime falls down for ages and I might have put my finger on it. Really, who's had the best/worst weekend? Ours has surely been better than Tottenham's, but we're 2 points worse off. Plus, the other thing is that after the same fixtures that Arsenal have had last season, they're actually a two points worse off. They'd won all bar one last year, and drew one (I think). This time they've drawn one and lost one. So despite being -1 on Storeytime, they're doing worse than last season, and they were shite then. I might have it figured out.

Arsenal and Liverpool still don't threaten as they'll lose stupid points to shit sides, and will lose even more when they actually play good sides.
 
You haven't figured it out you berk. You just lined up some vague impressions and presented them as arguments against it.
 
Assuming Chelsea hold on to this lead:

Table:
Chelsea +0
Arsenal -1
Liverpool -4
City -4
United -7
Spurs -8

Chelsea still in pole position without having really excelled, Arsenal still going strong without actually playing anyone, and Liverpool's inevitable decline is starting.
 
It isn't quite storeytime but (I think) compared to the corresponding fixtures last season:

(Everton) +4
Liverpool +3
Man City +3
Tottenham +2
Chelsea 0
Arsenal -3
Man Utd -13
 
africanspur said:
It isn't quite storeytime but (I think) compared to the corresponding fixtures last season:

(Everton) +4
Liverpool +3
Man City +3
Tottenham +2
Chelsea 0
Arsenal -3
Man Utd -13
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:eek:
 
africanspur said:
It isn't quite storeytime but (I think) compared to the corresponding fixtures last season:

(Everton) +4
Liverpool +3
Man City +3
Tottenham +2
Chelsea 0
Arsenal -3
Man Utd -13
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Which if projected forward unchanged 'til the season end would mean:

Man. City - 81 points
Man. Utd - 76 points
Chelsea - 75 points
Spurs - 74 points
Arsenal - 70 points
Everton - 67 points
Liverpool - 64 points

Interesting, but of course it won't work like that. For the remaining same/equivalent fixtures compared to last season, and based on the trends so far, I'd guess that:

* Man. Utd's drop-off will get worse.
* Everton, Liverpool and Man. City will further improve a bit.
* What happens with Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs is more difficult to assess.
 
Every year you predict we will drop off. Do you seriously hate our club, Glaston?
 
Top 3 perm from Arsenal, City, Chelsea. Next 3 perm from Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton. Spurs should get 7th.
 
Silent_Running said:
Every year you predict we will drop off. Do you seriously hate our club, Glaston?
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I don't hate any club, not even Arsenal.

Last season Fergie managed to paper over the cracks very well. But as for this season, with Moyes at the helm and when you are already the extreme standout in the above list, with a 13 point decline on the comparison scale given ... is it any longer really a question of 'prediction' or more one of emerging reality?
 
I'm starting to feel more confident about this season now that Glastonspur has made his prediction. He's never fecking right.
 
I imagine we'll lose a few more points in that little table over the next few games. In the corresponding fixtures last season, we gained 27 points out of a possible 33. Can't see us going on such a run at the moment tbh.

Haven't looked at the other clubs so can't comment. I've never thought that these kinds of things, whether storeytime or that comparison table, are actually that useful in predicting final positions but they're interesting nontheless.
 
The Neviller said:
I'm starting to feel more confident about this season now that Glastonspur has made his prediction. He's never fecking right.
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I made my predictions at the start of the season (including Spurs to finish above United), so think about all that wasted time when you could have been "starting to feel more confident" for the last 3 months and more.
 
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