What? One word: metatarsal
Yes he’s shit now and it’s fair to say that but show a bit of respect for a United living legend
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Yes he’s shit now and it’s fair to say that but show a bit of respect for a United living legend
So all those England records he has are a fluke too? Because that wasn’t a juggernaut international squad by any means (discombobulated to say the very least) and no SAF in command.
You’re making yourself sound very dull here. Idk what Wazza ever did to you but go take your frustrations out somewhere else. No wonder why English “fans” have such a bad reputation. It’s people like you that can’t even simply acknowledge a legend. Embarrassing.
Pretty sad how his career is fading.
Seriously mate, metatarsal is neither a long nor a career threatening injury. Its a painful one though and the club was spot on in allowing him to take the much needed rest he needed. I suffered from it myself so I know the feeling. There again it further enforce my argument that Rooney was at a proper club managed by a proper manager who took care of his own players. This burnout thing argument (which is the solely thing Im contesting) doesn't really make sense
His record speaks for himself and no one is contesting that. As much as no one should be contesting the reason why Rooney was finished by age 31 and in rapid decline far before that (SAF wanted him out at age 29 if I remember correctly). Players can still be legends while not caring a feck about themselves There's an endless list of that which also include Maradona, Gazza and Best). In Napoli Maradona is so idolised that there's actually shrines of him in streets like some saint. However, you won't find one Napolitano who wouldn't admit that Maradona could have achieved much more then he did if only he took better care of himself.
A person can be at the top of contrasting lists. Take Maradona as an example. He's the biggest football legend Argentina and Napoli has ever had. He's an A class tosser. He's the best player football had ever seen and he crapped all over his career.
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A metatarsal is a pretty minor injury in the grand scheme of things and absolutely no excuse for the condition he is in now. It's around 2/3 weeks of rest and treatment followed by 2/3 weeks of gentle conditioning and with the equipment united have, like the aqua treadmill there really is no excuse.
He’s been so poor for so long, people are forgetting how good he was in his prime. It’s a shame really, he was one of the most exciting players I’ve ever seen in his first few years with us.
Rooney's England underachieved same as the generation before him and the team after it. The reasons for that are many and doesn't have anything to do with Rooney. If you ask me, of the main reasons is this constant Political correctness and ridiculous respect players get. Football people get away with it too lightly in the UK.
To give you an example, Ventura had to flee the country for a couple of weeks after that Italy failed to qualify in the WC and yet he was still spotted at Zanzibar and insulted. That despite his team was really, really poor in terms of talent. You might argue that such thing is unwarranted which is fair enough as anyone is entitled for an opinion. Having said that, the Italians see it differently ie they have huge expectations for their team and they expect players to achieve them. Maybe that's the reason why they won 4 WC while England had to rely on a phantom goal to win their only 1.
Anyway my argument is solely based on contesting this 'burned out theory' which tries to explain why Rooney can't drag his weight around at age 32. I have nothing against the man and I fully respect his record with United.
He'll flop there too. Will come over with an attitude that he can up the fag'n'pint intake now and still be the best and will then be the last person to realise that it doesn't work like that.
I do remember how ridiculously good he was. Potential wise he was better then Portuguese Ronaldo. Which is really a shame how he ended up especially considering that the guy was largely managed by 1 top manager who knew his body inside out and had never suffered any real career threatening injury.
Footballing reasons aside, its the obvious move for Rooney.
Good money, Good way of life for his young family, and a bit of adulation to round off his career.
Fair play to him.
Good money, Good way of life for his young family, and a bit of adulation to round off his career.
Fair play to him.
A generation of Man Utd fans (teenagers) won't even know how good this guy was. He's been poor for so long.
Looks like that dream move back to Everton didn't go to plan then. Who could have possibly seen that coming...
Why couldn't he look after himself better? Zlatan was our best player at 35. Ronaldo is older than him and still going strong at the highest level. Giggs kept going until 40. Rooney is still quite young but ruined his body. Should've left the PL time ago. At least he's not our problem anymore. Getting Jose was worth it just for phasing him out of the team. No doubt he'd still be here if LVG or moyes had stayed.
Staggering if true.
Truly monumental feck up by Ed and Moyes.
The best part is Fergie set it up so Moyes/Ed wouldn't even take blame for selling Rooney. Still didn't do it. Literally still paying for hiring Moyes even today
He was done in his late 20s
The difference with Rooney and say a Ronaldo and a Zlatan was his work rate. The amount of ground he covered per game. He regularly chased back and made a tackle in our half then burst a lung to get back and support our attack. His natural body frame was bulky, and that would have put a lot of pressure on his body. It's easy to say Zlatan and Ronnie are still playing, but they didn't do half the work that Rooney did. His work rate more than anything is a reason for his demise. Once he lost that short burst of pace he had, he was on a downward spiral. Giggs went to 40, but he changed his game dramatically in his later yrs. Rooney was a legend for us, so much unselfish work he did for many of our attacking players.
He's been done for years really, when was the last time he had a decent season?
And worst of it, it's a mental issue, since (apparently) phisically he's still fit.
But in the 80's / 90's where refs would only show an yellow card if a defender break someone's leg, 32 would be considered a veteran already
Don't know. He's never left the north-west before and neither has his mrs. I always assumed they were not keen on moving very far from home and that they like having their respective extended families around from bits and bobs I've picked up on in the media. It was his doing, but there was supposed to be strain on his marriage not too long ago. A big upheaval could potentially feck up his relationship at this point. On the other hand the change could do everyone a lot of good. Hard to know which way it would go.
Could always drop down to the Championship if need be and he wants to carry on playing. Plenty of teams there that wouldn't require moving house. Newly relegated Stoke, promoted Wigan and Blackburn plus Bolton and Preston.
Back in Alderley Edge within a year.
This. You could see the signs before Sir Alex left. He peaked very young and started declining at about 27 which is insanely young for a footballer.
On the other hand, he will win more moeny and burgers & beer are cheaper over there
At least go a team with a chance of winning the MLS.
Not sure many have had a career as juxtaposed as Rooney's. Brilliant in the beginning, amateurish at the end.
There was a time when a teamsheet without Rooney spelt danger - because (and I could never understand why) we weren't quite the same team without him in it. He didn't necessarily need to score or assist in a game, just his presence in the lineup seemed to lend itself to a better team display.
But then such was his decline, that him getting a place on the bench felt generous. Because his performances were so staggeringly laboured, it beggared belief that he was one of the top earners in world football.
There was a time when a teamsheet without Rooney spelt danger - because (and I could never understand why) we weren't quite the same team without him in it. He didn't necessarily need to score or assist in a game, just his presence in the lineup seemed to lend itself to a better team display.
But then such was his decline, that him getting a place on the bench felt generous. Because his performances were so staggeringly laboured, it beggared belief that he was one of the top earners in world football.
For all the quirks to his relationship with United and the fans, I really do hope it works out for him if he ends up there. Football hasn't looked like a lot of fun for him in the past four or five years, so it'd be nice to see him have a half decent end to his career. Players who have contributed far, far less to the club are revered, whereas he seems to get a lot of stick for a couple of managers not being big enough to do what needed to be done and move him on when it was readily apparent that he was finished.
I see how any player near retirement age would share your view but as an American and MLS follower this is the exact reason im against has-beens playing in this league. The washed up players view the league as a retirement home and a last big paycheck before anything else. The actual football is merely a side note. Gerrard was paid top dollar at Galaxy but he seemed more enamored with the LA lifestyle. With the exception of NY the other cities you mentioned don't even have good teams at the moment. Beckham's Miami MLS team doesn't even start playing until 2020 and quite frankly Miami is considered one of the worst sports cities in America. Attendances are historically sparse there and its partly to do with the daily oppressive mugginess in the weather outside the spring months but i guess these players won't care about all these things as long as they get paid to vocation.
I agree
Wendy's in Washington will be seeing the dollar signs in their eyes if this happens.
Rooney was so, so fecking good in his prime. He had about 4 different strike partners and clicked with them all. I wish his short partnership with Larsson had lasted longer, and with Tevez.
Rooney was so, so fecking good in his prime. He had about 4 different strike partners and clicked with them all. I wish his short partnership with Larsson had lasted longer, and with Tevez.
I'm happy he stayed because he got the record. Plus it would have been very weird to see him in a Chelsea shirt. I get it, his peak ended probably after the 2011-12 season but I feel like he was still a good squad member.
No, this has nothing to do with 'lying' or anything like it. He is past it and has been for quite a while. The thing is that every thread that mentions him seems to have very real venom in it about him. I have never seen an ex player of ours get so much shit and that's what he is, an ex player. He means nothing to us in the present day but people just can't seem to let it go. I don't want anyone to pretend he's still brilliant but maybe just come into a thread about him potentially going to the USA and wish the guy well. The funny thing is that he ain't even on of our run of the mill ex players, he has a case for being on of if not the most important player we have had in recent times. He's gone now and he ain't stinking us up anymore, the lad deserves our respect.
@Brophs put it best. There are players who have contributed nothing to us compared to Rooney who are revered. Look at RVP, he won one League here and there ain't a poster who'd spout the shit about him on here that Rooney gets. Some actually enjoy his fall to the point where it seems that Rooney personally screwed them over at some point in their lives, it's genuinely strange.
yeah right so then the pool fans can say lol, Utd are paying for a player to play for our king slippy, god no, its bad enough we currently pay him 10 million a yr while at Everton and now according to reports he wants an extra 50 grand a week to join DC and we are expected to front 25 of that as well.
He is not good enough, even for a mid-table team.
The funny thing is that if LVG was still our manager, Rooney would probably still be the captain of MUFC, with LVG proclaiming that he is the best captain he has ever worked with and that the captain shall always play.
That ridiculous decision ultimately cost LVG his job. Had he benched Rooney and hired the services of a top class attacker, we'd have got top 4 (or perhaps even 3rd place) and he'd have kept his job. It was a shame that he, nor apparently Giggs, could see that playing with Rooney in the team, was like playing with 10 men.
He was "done" a long time before that, mate.
I would say his last good season was under Moyes (2013/14), after that, he was a passenger.
Still crazy to think how long we kept him with two inept managers who made him the focal point of our team (Although you can forgive Moyes first season as Rooney as still performing to a decent standard). Just goes to show that even Everton are better off without him. Should have shipped him out years before we did.
think he should just retire. I don’t think he’s short on finances, and he will probably look awful even in the mls, and will likely feck up job offers for other players that might want to go to mls in the future cause eventually them clubs will realise they are being taken for a ride
Moyes' biggest feck up at United was to give Rooney that obscene contract. Also, I actually wanted him gone before then because it was already clear he was the weakest striker among the big teams in the EPL at the time, and more importantly you could feel he was really dragging the team down.
I reckon United would have had been in a much better state in the post-SAF era had Rooney never gotten that last contract.
He never looked after himself physically. Anytime he came back from injury he looked to have put on weight. It took him a few games to resemble the one we had before. Smoking 20 cigarettes a day at one point here, rumours about showing up drunk to training. Getting knocked out in his kitchen and eating god knows what. My dad always said Rooney would decline fast by 30, compared him to Gazza. If wasn't uncommon to see this decline in the mid 90's with premier league footballers, different time and culture with players. Rooney was an animal to play against, a street footballer with incredible natural talent. I'd say it's sad but he milked and used United in the latter years. Definitely one of the United greats and was amazing to watch years ago. He might be a club legend for some but not me.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...t-to-leave-everton-to-join-mls-side-dc-united
Wayne Rooney looks set to play his last game in the Premier League this Sunday – with a £12m move to MLS side DC United agreed in principle.
Wayne Rooney looks set to play his last game in the Premier League this Sunday – with a £12m move to MLS side DC United agreed in principle.
He'll retire after one season there and then put himself in the running for the England job.
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