Kovacic is on loan and was no more than a sweetener from Madrid to get the Courtois deal done. Jorginho was done to get Sarri but ok fair enough on that one. As for us we may have spent 50m to get Fred but he just replaced Carrick's role in the squad (quiet litterally given how little he's played). It was no where near enough to claw the 20 odd points we were behind City last season so it was a token gesture at best
Spurs 2018/19
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Kovacic is on loan and was no more than a sweetener from Madrid to get the Courtois deal done. Jorginho was done to get Sarri but ok fair enough on that one. As for us we may have spent 50m to get Fred but he just replaced Carrick's role in the squad (quiet litterally given how little he's played). It was no where near enough to claw the 20 odd points we were behind City last season so it was a token gesture at best
City took the lead after 5 minutes and didn't have to chase another goal, that's the thing with football matches you know? They were in total control, created chances and invited Spurs with a few lapses, but again, Spurs never scored and we never saw them breaking into 4th or 5th gear. Silva decided to pass when on open goal, Sterling missed the follow-up, Aguero should have scored with his shot outside the box and so forth. City were much, much better than Spurs and never broke a sweat until the last 10 minutes - which is often the case in football when you are on top, miss sitters and invite the home team to throw everything at you.
Just me that thought the much-cried-about Alderweireld looked like a fat cnut?
No. It's akin to someone with no mortgage, because they are not buying a house but are instead funding a house construction themselves.
They're doing this partly via a bank loan and partly from their own money, and to make sure they'll have enough to finish construction they've arranged a further loan facility which they can drawn down as little or as much as may be needed to finish construction and keep paying all other bills in the meantime.
There's no way for Spurs to be credited within the limited scope of this pre-determined binary logic:
* Player doesn't sign new contract: he wants outs and so will depart.
* Player signs new contract: only means Spurs will get more money when sold
So like a Mortgage?..
No, the current aim is at least top 4 and remaining competitive whilst we fund the new stadium.
It's not one tiny bit like your position, because you are not funding a new stadium and have spent a fortune on wages and transfer fees.
A mortgage is not a loan facility. Try an evening class in economics.
Never said it was? Do they have reading comprehension at these classes?
Earlier this year you said the same thing about the 400m banking facility. The one that replaced the 200m interim financing. Now there's an additional 237m on top of that. Your club wouldn't be arranging additional financing if it weren't necessary.
I don't think you'll be as badly hit as the naysayers in this thread but your team will suffer in the short term as there won't be significant funds to strengthen without selling.
Personally I'm looking forward to your Marouane Chamakh / Yaya Sanogo style free transfers in the coming years. Enough of them and we might creep back ahead of you lot.
They weren't that impressive ... but only because they didn't have to be in order to beat us.
Just straight up disagree with you that on the balances of chances a draw was fair. I saw only one deserved winner on the pitch, and only one team who was creating chances off their own back. They had more shots, more shots on target, saw more of the ball .. they deserved to win.
They were better, so we can have no complaints about losing .. I'm not a big fan of cheering when 'maybe we could have got a draw with a bit of luck!'.
They didn't create an awful amount, I think the pitch was an issue and we did well in terms of work rate/pressing them. It wasn't a slaughter which is nice, but it was hardly an inspiring performance from us either. We did OK.
They created the best move of the game (The one Silva should have scored from) and the goal was nicely worked too. The chance that fell to Aguero came after some nice passing play as well. We completely failed to test Ederson throughout the 90 .. perhaps a draw wouldn't have been unfair, but I don't think you could argue us losing was unfair either.
You see all fans get excited about top 4 these days as if it’s an achievement. Not just Spurs fans but Liverpool, Arsenal and even Utd fans now.
I miss the old days when it was just about trophies for the big clubs.
If it's all about trophies people would just support the same 2 or 3 clubs.
Success is relative and in this era it's the hardest to play in Champions League than ever before. This isn't the 1990s or early 2000s where 3rd and 4th didn't have the resources to challenge for the title but had more resources than the rest (Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle). Now we see teams with the 3rd or 4th highest budget finish 5th and 6th.
I agree that football has changed. It’s just that I find the Champions League to be quite dull these days.
Same goes for finishing 4th. It simply doesn’t excite me.
I never say it was enough to catch up with City but both clubs are willing to spend money to improve their squad to close the gap with City. If both clubs show no desire to actually win the league, they would have done like Spurs not signing anyone. Spurs isn't even improving their squad knowing that they were behind us & Liverpool last season. A promotion team spent more money than they did in the summer.
You are forgetting that we signed Sanchez is also a business that we made to improve our attack to close the gap with City. If you ask everyone last year, everyone would have said Sanchez is twice a player of Shaqiri. You are also forgetting that we signed Dalot, and he is just 5 months younger than Trent Alexander Arnold. Fred has been given little game time but both Fabinho & Keita also have been given little time.
You have no reason to think why Liverpool and us show different desire to improve the squad to win the league. They are doing well because Klopp was able to get the best out of his current players & also his previous signings. Jose on the other hand doesn't get the best out of his players & previous signings to the max.
Yep football has changed a lot and, imo, mostly for the worse.
I hate that top 4 is now so much more important to a club's progress than winning (most) trophies but that is the unfortunate reality of football.
Right, except that isn't what I'm saying at all. I know you're feeling pretty negative about most aspects of the club right now but literally all I said was that the PSV match and the City match (considering the opposition) were amongst our better performances so far this season. I didn't say plucky old Spurs, well done boys, I was actually incredibly disappointed after the match finished.
So, after all that to and fro, we're basically saying the same thing then? They were the better team. They will finish above us. They played better on the night. But not so much better than they destroyed us and, on the balance of the better chances in the match, we actually were not that uneven.
You're also putting too much focus on the nicest play. Who cares? Ultimately the game was actually decided with some good old fashioned route one football, not particularly sure how it was nicely worked. A lump up from Ederson, a mistake from Trippier and then a simple pass across to Mahrez. It didn't come from intricate play, nor a 70 pass move. I doubt Guardiola cares and rightly so, because he has the 3 points.
As I said above, watch the highlights. Lloris makes maybe one save I would classify as a good save, otherwise everything is very routine. The pitch certainly was an issue, for both teams and it certainly bobbled a lot for Lamela's sitter. I would not expect Lloris to concede from that Aguero chance at all.
Toby has looked off the pace ever since his injury last season. Seems to have lost a bit of pace and his organisational skills are not what they once were.
I hope he gets back to how he was but I'm getting increasingly concerned that he won't. Which perhaps explains why, according to media reports, you guys didn't even put in a bid at all this summer.
He's not been helped in fairness by the protection in front of him getting worse so far this season.
Foyth looked excellent tonight and has impressed me every match I've seen him play. Really hope he can get a chance in the Premiership.
That isn't really how City play though. They're not a take the lead and don't chase another goal team and I don't think Guardiola has ever been that kind of manager.
I'm not going to go into it again, I've said it above. The short of it is that City were better, didn't create that many actually decent chances and in the end, despite being worse than them, we also messed up two big chances that on most days I'd be expecting those players to put away. Such is football and City can be happy with a hard fought 3 points.
Behave yourself its nothing to do with Spurs its just modern football
Spurs fans actually think they deserved something out of that game? Have a look at all the chances City created compared to you lot, if City had their finishing boots on it would have been 3-4 goals for them.
Youve got to be blind to think City didnt create a lot. Silva missed an open net for gods sake.
Youve got to be blind to think City didnt create a lot. Silva missed an open net for gods sake.
It's the bemused look on his face that does it, like he's actually confused by the question
1) Record profits
2) New stadium with cheese room
3) Keeping hold of players and the manager
4) Finished above Arsenal
Wanyama another knee injury? Finished at the top level?
Eriksen is estimated to have a transfer value of 88m EURO as of today according to the new report from CIES. It has decreased from 109m EURO in May 2018. One can only guess how low it will be in May 2019. Thats a scary development to be quite honest for all clubs, not just Spurs.
It probably got something to do with his contract situation, not that it's possible to value a player in a vacuum like this anyway so it's kind of pointless.
Well the fact that it obviously has to do with his contract situation was my entire point. Spurs are losing a lot of money every month they dont sign him up. And tbf, we are in the same situation with De Gea, as are Chelsea with Hazard.
Yeah, it's not an ideal situation to be in, and I'd love for him to sign.
He looks pregnant in that photo
Ouch, that means they'll have to play Sissoko more as Wanyama is also out, leaving just Winks, Dier and Sissoko as midfield options.
Well, not quite. We can also deploy Eriksen in a deeper role as part of a CM two (behind Kane, Moura, Son and Alli for example), or do the same with Alli.
Whats Spurs preferred formation nowadays? Is it still 4231
Not the best options in CM though. Wasting Eriksen in that position when he should be doing more damage further up the pitch. Same for Alli to a degree (although Eriksen is the far better player).